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 Post subject: Re: Question About Pdef in Gracia Final
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:39 pm 
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gz captain obvious.
and Andrenaline has IMBA items comparing to the ones he fight with.

@mvp : there are talismans which give mdef : Blue Talisman of Magic Defense, Blue Talisman - Divine Protection, Yellow Talisman of Arcane Defense etc :)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:14 pm 
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IdooL wrote:
@mvp : there are talismans which give mdef : Blue Talisman of Magic Defense, Blue Talisman - Divine Protection, Yellow Talisman of Arcane Defense etc :)


those talismans give shit mdef and divine protection is ud that gives both pdef/mdef for 8 seconds or so :)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:23 pm 
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like there it is smth that will give u 100k mdef :). it's an increase, so it's good.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:31 pm 
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I got hide and exciting. Now the pvp will be better, before start one pvp now i can use advantage in exciting and when is finished i use UE :P, well i tell this because not a lot ppl have exciting and hide, because that is fs and is not cheap :P or only big raid boss drop 1 random fs sometimes.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:02 pm 
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use UE vs tanks/archers, Exciting vs anything else

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:12 pm 
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Exciting vs mage not work right? only evade physical right?.. and UE vs daggers works good also.. 2 days ago before buy Exciting, i only used UE and vs dagger i avoided alot skills.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:16 pm 
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yea, only physical skills.
mages should be : Mirage + Hide + Backstab, Critical Blow, Bluff, Crt Wound, Backstab = mage dead.
yea UE works too, but EA is a lot better, so use it since now.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:45 pm 
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IdooL wrote:
like there it is smth that will give u 100k mdef :). it's an increase, so it's good.


talisman doesnt help .. the answer is ++ jwls ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:55 pm 
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it's obvious he has +30 epics, but he still have problems.
so the only things that will help further are talismans :)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:59 pm 
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IdooL wrote:
it's obvious he has +30 epics, but he still have problems.
so the only things that will help further are talismans :)


Yea, big difference between 90000 and 90050 mdef :D

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:18 pm 
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in oly, i get around 150 mdef / yellow talisman (the lowest).
the w/e talisman of defense (both mdef and pdef) give around 300 of both, so it's noticeable difference.
(ofc not in that lolserver he plays)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:54 pm 
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Yes Ofc with that i think mage down, but some mage have fear +30 one that on you and bb jajja xD

About my jews i have it +10 but in some days i guess take rune fs.

And about talismans i using bracelet C grade jajaj, one S grade bracelet I dont have yet.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:00 pm 
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You should get rune asap and about fear enchant your passive wisdom skill for + mental ressistance. Another m.def boost comes with ud cert, but if it activates..

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:05 pm 
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The passive wisdom skill go for +30 ? And it give ressist against bluff also right?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:07 pm 
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+15 is max for wisdom. Yeah also mental bluff ressist ;)

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