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 Post subject: Re: Olympiad
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:15 am 
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Sk/St guide would be nice xP


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:01 pm 
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Here is a more detailed guide of the tyrant or as i like to call it OMFGDEATHON2GREEDLEGSRUN
I would also make a not that this guide is for HELLBOUND chronicle and also i havent encountered any kamaels so plz feel free to add any usefull info regarding newer chronicles/kamael tactics


Vs. Skill Spammers ( Glads/Daggers/Tyrants ):
IC heavy ( more +++ the better )
Tactics: I used a health SA demon splinter didnt feel any effect because they died to quickly *sob*
I used Ogre totem and spammed ranged skills until they got close
Daggers usually die quickly
Always keep clicking on the TH and watch out for the AW/PW dodge and that reflect skill they kinda hurt
Vs Glads/Tyrants just keep hitting till they die usually you will win since you have better hp/cp Also stop hitting when you see celestial at tyrants/glads. Waste of mana

Vs. Titans

This class gave me some trouble since i couldnt guess which skill they used before the fight (frenzy or guts ) but i usually did this
Puma Totem+celestial and spammed my skills as hard as i could
Activate the celestial exactly 2 secs before the actual fight starts
The cast animation is around that number of secs so you should be able to get max effect of celestial

Vs. Summoners/Necros

Here you switch to a light set (draconic set vs summoners and necros you could use nm vs necros for better mdef )
First stun the summoner or if stun fails try to kill him quickly
If stun lands you have 2 choices:
1. If he has half hp kill him quick
2. If he is full hp/cp kill pet that way you will have some secs to slaughter the squishy noob
About banes well try to avoid them as best as possible
Vs necros i did almost the same killed summon first then pwned the necro
When you see him cast a debuff activate reposte stance if your lucky he will selfcod then its free points

Vs. Nukers

Draco set here for better speed/attack speed
Just get close and clobber them to death
If you wanna be safe use bubble tactic from Vs Titan part

Vs. Healers/buffers
These guys gave me a headache
Vs. Healers
EE with nuker augment is almost invicible
a lucky stun/crit on skill to finish him off is all i can say
same goes for all other healers
Vs. buffers get close and use stuns as much as possible vs prophets The low con makes them easy to stun ( if they have boss jwls then your doomed )
Vs Wc/OL stay in mid range and be carefull at what they do
IF they go melee/fighter style switch to IC+Ogre and skill spam
If the go mage NM set (if +6 its even better ) and get close ( use repo stance vs OL debuffs )

Vs Tanks
VS Da/SK
First off beware of there ToD
Donno if this is valid but Tod removes the FIRST buffs you have so put some notsoimportant buffs first so they waste there CP
Keep fortitude/war frenzy/repo up everytime they use there shield stun/slam /w/e vs you
You can go skill spammer ( Draco set +puma or wolf for better speed ) or Melee ( IC + Ogre )
Vs Pk/TK
These guys are very annoying
Try to stun them ( good luck ) when they use ToL or try to make them waste it
Again repo stance is your friend to throw off those nasty debuffs from both cubics and shield skills

Vs. Dwarf/WL

These guys are quite easy
Go IC set and Puma
Also keep war frenzy/repo on in case of stun just to be safe

DYES
I used +str -dex only since i was afraid of droping dex because of speed but you got totems for that so you can also go for +con-dex dyes

Weapon Atribute is ofc fire ( Infernal form gave that away )

Well thats it hope this shitty guide helps any of you tyrant lovers out there

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:44 pm 
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holy shit

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:40 pm 
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what about sd? :D

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:47 pm 
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i want for sk !

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:01 am 
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IdooL wrote:
i want for sk !
is it vs any specific class? cos I might be able to help, however I don't wanna write a long guide


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:13 am 
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write a long one :))
i kinda need vs big dd guys ... like other tanks, like warlord and crafter and tyrant. daggers are pretty easy

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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:05 pm 
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EUPHORIA wrote:
holy shit

not the reply i was thinking :))

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:53 pm 
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I wonder, what about special stuff? i read about the usual SOES with BTB buff and also about that other B weapon to get men shield. Any other useful buff from weapon SA or augments??

Btw i miss some advice 4 saint classes too, ES/SS...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:54 am 
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there is also weapon with magic focus but useless for se/ee

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:06 pm 
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Server 4x (freya)

class : Eva's Templar
gear : Vesper set +3/6, full epic ,vepser cutter+3+f,db+10+f
dye : +4 wit - 4 int , +2 str - 2 con
enchanted skills : vang+10,ptyud+10,mental attack rezist +15, tol +10 , and 2nd class skills +10..15 most

wins: all classes
lose : OE Sorcs/SpellSingers/Strong PK/OE Dual Daggers+cancel pvp
tactics :

vs nukers : Because of anti-magic armor ,shield defelct party ud and tol/toe ofc no nuker has chances , but in the case of full geared sorcs +6 sets and full atributed , the can cancel the sh1t out of you and nuke you at end of youre ud's but in rest are not really problems

vs archers : lol not much to comment :P

vs daggers : a weak dagger w/o gear isnt a big fuss , but full skilled dagger with cancel dual daggers can be a headache , the thing about them is to run from them when they have exciting adventure on , and try to bash him , tribunal him all the time and hope for a bow crit or icy air from cubic , use ud when they attack you with haste trigger activated etc


vs titans - if they have frenzy on use party ud , tribunal him if he runs kite him , if ud is oever just use vanguard , if the titan is good geared and activates final secret it's ok to use 2 ud's to avoid getting lol crits

Vs glads - pay atention when he uses final secret , if he dosent dont UD yet , hit stun him till he drains till half your hp , then ud tol and kite him with bow if he runs and so on

vs summoners - ANYOING ,but not hard , start with eva's will , humman summoner will surely remove haste and ww , but no worries just stun the pet , kite the master , u will eventualy win by dmg, and agro all the time ofc !

vs spoliers : nothing to worry about

Vs Tyrants : pty ud + kite , he'll die eventualy + healing ability , not a big threat

Slh : this is tricky but also extremly hard if u fight a experienced slh , a GOOD slh will have in his inventory (max clarity/Divine protection/silence/arrest remove talismans) . The ONLY thing u can do is BOW BOW BOW ,dont try to run after him u wont reach him anyway ,try to buff first buffs the buffs u need like haste , ww, might, death whisper,focus , dont BUFF SHIELD/REFLECT ARROW anything that will help him , buff zerk at end so he can steal it . after match start u will loose 5 buffs, after he steals use UD , mobile ud's ofc , and kite him ,after seconds steal , use anti magic armor and so on and hope u can kill it but u usualy wont..

Berzerker : just tol yourself when hp droping spam , tribunal , stun on him and eventualy he dies, use ud if he starts casting his skills

Tanks : HK,SK arent really an isue .... because if they fail removing haste , they are easy to kills , hit them til they activate lvl 2 seed , run and wait for it to pass , after that again hit hit stun intrerupt and so on , theyr lack of heal is a huge disatvantage to them , but Watch Out , a good skilled and with good items player , can kill you easly, if he lands tod + lvl 83 debuff + panther debuff u are good as dead , if a sk lands his debuffs and u dont watch out u can be his hitting bag also . use ud in critical moments !
PK : with summon are quite tricky , u can't usualy win by dmg , they have AI and that retarded bird ,the only thing u can do is after AI is lost , hit him and agro him when he reaches mid hp , if u succed in bringing him to low hp , he can't use sacrafice and flame icon and is dead for sure.

EE/CARDINALS : quite easy , if they erase windwalk , use shield deflect magic and cast sprint in meanwhile he will risk hitting himself , do that till they block ww themselves, smart cubic erases anydebuffs he lands on you so dont worry , the secret is to armonise shield defect magic + eva's will + tol + all you're UD's , so u can have them throughout all the olympiad match , always keep one for when the ee will use enlightment , and get a DECENT BOW , when u are in slow ud's use bow and agression(defence decrease) to kite them , this way disableing them to win by dmg

COV/OL : cov's arent a big problem , just use ud when they have low hp so they wont recharge from you and kite and so on
OL : this is a difrent storry, a good geared and skilled OL , can kick the sh1t out of you , he uses that drain at start to kill youre cp even if u have ud on , then he wil lstart to nuke you , try to drain his cp before he drains yours , and use ud ONLY IF NECESARY , shield deflect magic spam , kite him with bow and try to intrerupt him when he uses max clarity


i know my gear isnt the topic here , but i wanted to post the oly thingy more . hope it helps you . gl :)


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:46 am 
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what about warcryer?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:15 am 
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xXDonXx wrote:
what about warcryer?


full buff before match start hit npc for mana gain,in oly use dager+pvp and heavy armor vs other heavy armors.vs mages use blunt and try to stun em nuke em.you cant farm oly with that char but still you can win some games =)


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:46 pm 
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Server 4x (freya)

vs archers : lol not much to comment :P



in Hi5 they will make you to comment....If played well archers have nice chances vs some classes in Hi5. It's not so nice to get a crit hit with more than 24k power.

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Vs Tyrants : pty ud + kite , he'll die eventualy + healing ability , not a big threat


I can't believe that to ! Maibe you can defeat some...but not a big threat ? ...You say kite...Kite what ?...kite a tyrant ??? :shock: Maibe the tyrant will kite you ...and that it will be so easy.
Scenario : Rabbit totem / kite and blast you from far....IF you reach him ...soul breaker/criple and run again.(in Hi5 will blust/ charge /SB /criple/ run /charge /blust again)
You will get stuned faster than the tyrant and also your hits will be : miss miss miss hit miss miss hit .
Not a big threat lolol :lol:
It's not a must to kill you...he can win by dmg and take your points .

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:16 am 
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@imbastartk: Lol TK vs tyrant is pretty ugly for the TK. And for any tank in general. The sk and pala can pull the shit off because of ai/pos. Vs sk at least, if tyrant starts attacking melee like a stupid babboon (many of them do that between skills) the sk's dps will probably triple. Or even more.
And vs titans you effectively have a less than 10% chance to win with a TK.
Berserkers will 'eventually' die? Berserkers are born and bred tank killers, just like the titans.
Dude, are you fucking high? HK/SK aren't an issue? Sk is your BIGGEST issue. You have no choice but to hit him. If you kite him you're an idiot because you'll do 50 dmg per hit and he will eat you in the meantime. If you attack him his dps goes up because of pos. You will also get your ass tod'ed. He will greatly outdamage you and when pos ends you'll end up with your tol used up, probably one ud too while he's ready for the clean battle.
ee/cardinals: easy? What server are you playing on? No mana = no game. No guard stance. No tol. He will have 10+ lives while you will have one. Remember that he doesn't need to kill you to win.
cov/ol: srsly. Whatever server you're playing, stop doing it. Wc is a major threat. He's fucking buffed like hell. You will deal the same dmg to each other.
And WTF, ol will use drain at start? You suck. Drains are only used to replenish his hp. That way you get maximum effectiveness. He has to be a retard to drain at the start of the battle because 1. he's full hp/cp and 2. if he drains your cp he will get 0 hp in return. Gawd.. Stop playing that server.

I may be outdated, but what you're saying is summon pokemon, not l2.

@Shaddow: yes, archers will have chances vs some classes, but not versus tanks. You can't kill a 5k+ hp 2.5k+ cp class by doing 100 dmg on each shot. And probably 500 on a skill.

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