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Stef
 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:39 pm 
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+4 STR -4 CON +5 WIT -5 INT

STR effect crt/lethal/half kill after Interlude Client.
That means that you have a higher chance to land Backstab and Lethal Blow x2 dmg,lethals and half kills.
Never go - DEX on TH,they have crapy DEX from the beggining and if you try - DEX you
have a low chance to land Blows.DEX effect success of landing Blows and they doesn't have
focus death.
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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:43 pm 
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Stef wrote:
+4 STR -4 CON +5 WIT -5 INT

STR effect crt/lethal/half kill after Interlude Client.
That means that you have a higher chance to land Backstab and Lethal Blow x2 dmg,lethals and half kills.
Never go - DEX on TH,they have crapy DEX from the beggining and if you try - DEX you
have a low chance to land Blows.DEX effect success of landing Blows and they doesn't have
focus death.


1st of all, use the damn SEARCH button.
2nd of all, +str = only crit skill (x2) rate, not half kill/lethal rate.
3rd, use +5STR -5CON and search for the reasons.

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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:15 pm 
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use vesper shaper + crt dmg + pvp. u will pwnz.
tips: use bleed vs other daggers, make pvp armor asap (is imba with mirage), use critical blow before other blows, always focus power +15 back dmg, start with Exciting Adventure + Mirage in oly (if Tank, UE + Mirage) and that's kinda all.
Ah, btw, when u fight tanks, first use normal hits on them for ignore shield defense, and then start pwning :D

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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:01 pm 
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always use CD (it's not IL/HB anymore, where atk spd meant smth).
vesper armor pvp is 11,5k or so.
bleed is awesome vs daggers since they can't hide.
i don't enchant critical blow, but if u have GC to spend, enchant it on mp cost. (i guess)
yes, crt wound is low chance to succeed, but when u get ur target bluffed 100% (stun + show back + cancel target) it's worth to try use it.

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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:05 pm 
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WarmazoR wrote:
IdooL wrote:
use vesper shaper + crt dmg + pvp. u will pwnz.
tips: use bleed vs other daggers, make pvp armor asap (is imba with mirage), use critical blow before other blows, always focus power +15 back dmg, start with Exciting Adventure + Mirage in oly (if Tank, UE + Mirage) and that's kinda all.
Ah, btw, when u fight tanks, first use normal hits on them for ignore shield defense, and then start pwning :D


Hey thanks for reply.

Well there in l2 toxic all my friends told me to get vesper haste so i get it haste no cd, Well i believed in they bcs i new in that server and they play there like 2 years, and all told me cd is no good take haste, but if u say me is more better CD i can talk to chage at CD.

Yes i need pvp armor of course, its easy i think in armor in vesper is 50k of fame is more hard.
Bleed is useful vs daggers?

Critical blow i enchant it at duel? right ?


Critical wound there the change sucess is low :x.

Thanks for tips.


if you do bleed other daggers can only hide for 1 second.
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Stef
 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:13 pm 
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IdooL wrote:
Stef wrote:
+4 STR -4 CON +5 WIT -5 INT

STR effect crt/lethal/half kill after Interlude Client.
That means that you have a higher chance to land Backstab and Lethal Blow x2 dmg,lethals and half kills.
Never go - DEX on TH,they have crapy DEX from the beggining and if you try - DEX you
have a low chance to land Blows.DEX effect success of landing Blows and they doesn't have
focus death.


1st of all, use the damn SEARCH button.
2nd of all, +str = only crit skill (x2) rate, not half kill/lethal rate.
3rd, use +5STR -5CON and search for the reasons.


im not sure if STR effect half-kill/lethal maybe you got right.
They are not standart dyes for any class(except Gladi and some kamaels i dont know),if someone wanna play Dagger with full stun ressist and more hp he go +CON,if someone wanna play it more like a ninja he go +STR.
if you have +4 STR or +5 STR it doenst make soooooo mutch different.The same at +1 more CON,it doenst give you ultra mega more stun ressist.
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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:44 pm 
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you will easier notice bonus from +1 str than +1 con or anything else, same goes for INT or WIt compared to MEN

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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:04 pm 
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7r0yan wrote:
you will easier notice bonus from +1 str than +1 con or anything else, same goes for INT or WIt compared to MEN


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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:31 pm 
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Tip: Use stealth vs soulhounds, when they use SD they will lose PDEF.
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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:34 pm 
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m0cking wrote:
Tip: Use stealth vs soulhounds, when they use SD they will lose PDEF.

imba tip :D

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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:42 pm 
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m0cking wrote:
Tip: Use stealth vs soulhounds, when they use SD they will lose PDEF.


same goes for sd (shadow dance) :) but stealth can be removed ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:46 pm 
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Yes it can, but you need quick hands before you remove it without getting stabbed.

Edit: I wounder if works with that tyrant buff thats decrease 80% PDEF and give hp/mp, and you cant move. :idea:
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:39 am 
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WarmazoR wrote:
Well guys i think if i take -con and put +str that config is like if u play all the time with a bishop right, and +con -str is when u like fight solo?..

Now i gonna prove +str and -con.


+5STR all the time is way better I tested and the results was:

+5STR 30 Backstabs 11 Criticals
No dyes 30 Backstabs 5 Criticals

Dont worry with your hp/stun resist, this is not Interlude anymore you have alternative ways to increase your stun resist.
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 Post subject: Re: Dyes for TH on L2 Gracia Final.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:50 am 
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Boost evasion/cp (rogue/warrior)
UD (tank)
Celestial (enchanter)
Lv6 MDEF
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:44 am 
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UD = chance to get +15% p/mdef (I think it's 15%, I'm really tired so don't blame me), taken from TK, SK, pala or DA

lv6 mdef = u take all ur 65 and 70 books (don't remember their names either atm), and add them to mdef (u get 2 for each sub)
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