in 1v1 yes PW and AW own TH,thats a fact!. The BIG + of th believe me its mirage.In mass pvp where daggers rushes mirage helps a lot to th's survivability.Lets say for an instance that 2 SH's target a AW and a TH in far range in mass pvp.AW has BIG CHANCES to die only from X2 vortex X2 crushers.TH with mirage may avoid 1 or even 2 crushers and with higher life(and MORE cp potions to carry) he will live more, and be able to deliver the dmg daggers are supposed to do on targets.
My oppinion is yes ofc AW&PW do higher dmg per second but they both die easily! espacialy AW.My point is more time hitting= more dmg so TH for the win

In freya there are some more skills to survive of 2 nuks.
U really play a dagger ? U come up with scenario 2 sh have you on target and your only thought is lucky mirage before slugs ? You sound pityfull .
For your scenario I can say 1 easy way which all 3 dagger classes be full hp + cp : hide + backstab + next target + shadow step + backstab (if u r unlucky use bluff + blows and lose some cp meanwhile)

About topic is all about what you like to play and what you are good at

Edit : Forgot to mention that being a good nuker you should have on macros (/target xxxxxx) the most dangerous light users enemies . . . bb mirage

First time TH ? You will get used to get owned every time

perfectly true. most of people make TH for the first time and get owned by any1, reroll to GH and see that they win easy cuz of counter and hex & that's one of the reasons people think TH sux comparing to others.

that's just bla bla bla...only tard daggers would lose time giving hex on someone bluffed...also you don't have time for all that (expecially 2 backstabs xD) on someone bluffed...unless you are completely full buffed, with boss jewels for less reuse, etc and even that way i think its impossible. and what has counter do with the target not being dead xD ?



roflcopter, enough said

clickz are the best yoo...btw you should tell me what pro combos are those you make on th that require lolololol clicks instead of F's xDDD and pls don't tell me you use trick/switch

not my fault you play on l2j rofl you shouldn't give any advice based on l2j...and i have never EVER seen any l2j server where hex landed 100% no one here gave the scenario of dagger vs dagger i think, it's dagger overall and counter is only good against other daggers/tyrant/glad/db and few more...

and im lmao tbh...first, focus power must ALWAYS be on, and since you are playing on high rate, so is VS so those do not even count, because imo you won't be clicking on those 2 every fucking time you go for a kill lol...

and seriously ? you are telling me you can't do bluff + crit wound + crit blow + bs on F's xDD ?? you have got to be kidding me...alsoooo, why would you give bleed and THEN bluff ?? seriously, reduce his speed and then stun him xD ? jesus...

also you prolly don't even know you can use 2 of your bars with your keyboard so this whole argument is pointless

and you should really learn more bout the servers you play...nekys servers aren't l2j afaik kiddo, they are DC, which should be decent enough to have semi working skills...btw switch doesn't work 95% anywhere not even on l2j on lvl 85 chars, you are just throwing percentages out of your ass

have a good day

roflmao...you are sooo full of shit, tho you know nothing

1. VS is used before you even engage into battle, so it doesn't even count as being part of a combo, gtfo...

2. bleed is not reduce speed ?? worst dagger evaaaahh...if you use bleed to reduce enemy's hp, you are just sad

3. using 2 bars actually gives you more overview on the battlefield, because if you know what you are doing, you can have your eyes on the screen all the time and your hand controls all the skills you need, and if you do it on clicks you won't be looking to the battlefield, you will be looking at your skill bars rofl...

4. i actually played rf x1000 xD no switch doesn't land 95%, no hex doesn't land 99%, it's just what you THINK it is, those calculations are just thrown out of your ass with no proof/sense...no idea if bleed is magical skill, if it is, well it's still pointless to use it and your probably a handicap if you do it...

5. l2dc = l2j ?..............quit L2

just because you play l2j doesn't mean everyone does the same and expecially it doesn't mean you should give advice based on that crap....

also, your the failure here ffs...i've been in this forum for longer than you play l2

1. ofc it isn't rofl...a combo is, as the name says a combination of skills one after another...you only do a combo when you are already in battle ffs...VS is activated waaay before you use any other skill, thus not being part of the combo imo -_-

2. the person who uses bleed for sap should really try another class, dagger is not the best choice...let me guess, as it is a magic skill, you also use acumen, emp and bers spirit for more magic attack xD ?

3. a dagger clicking skills makes it look like an handicap, just sayin...

4. unless you give 4k damage on bleed, yes it's really pointless to use, unless you are going for the -speed part of the skill...dagger using sap on enemies...pr0...if that skill is actually used among the dagger community on rf x 1000 i would consider that server a custom sv

5. you say it yourself...better files rofl...making l2dc =/= l2j tard xD...they are not equal, and l2dc as far as i have tested myself, as much better skill formulas than l2j...this is not equal for all servers ofc...

well, as your posting about l2j, your prolly misleading other ppl who actually play decent l2...

yeah yeah you play since prelude i know...