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Well icarus, u have a point...

But since EE has low mp cost heal, clarity and may have PoW..
I'd rather take him in PvE. Bish may have balance life and Mass rez...
But will you ever need one of those in PvE? I think not....
Only place where balance life is a must is the room in IT where
you can't use normal healing spells. Bishop would find a place in RB's too.
I'd rather take EE always.

In PvP i'd get bish since there greater battle heal and mass rez may matter.

It's true, for pve, yes, except IT, bishop is the last healer class i'd get i guess. Well sure, maybe i'd choose it over SE, but since most parties go for wc, you guys will be lacking wind walk, empower and wild magic, so...

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pff... the bish is good at pvp and at pve.. why?! u have so much ee/bish friends so u can change them like ur t-shirts?at x4 serv i was bishop so i can tell i was needed everywhere.. with conversion weapon i had high mana... at raids i was better the higher lvl SEs and was close to the EE of my clan(1 bish 1 se 1 ee-healers of the clan i think u get me)..if u want to go farm u first take SE(yes yes low mana but conversion makes ur way thrue) cuz he can heal/recharge/buff-i never used to solo with se cuz i just !SE 67 LFP and get 3-4 pms...next is ofcourse EE... but guys.. when my clan had clanwars the EE had no job...he was just too slow in casting compared to my GBH,balance life(ye with destro in pt its much better and also+1DA lvl 75)...
EE is not more buffer-well evasion(great great!) decr. w8.(yes u can cary more shots!!) and at higher lvl advanced block..ah yes and also wild magic(but compared to SE with emp+wm EE loses the fight) +resist stun-this is powah..elven elder has powater..and what?!who says that bish will be all the time self buffed?!have u ever heard of smth like PARTY(or at high rate servs u dont party cuz u have ykk hp and +1k draconic bow so u dont need nobody and u spam cppots from gmshop)!?
Bish is the guy that can go to raids and to pvps-has higher mana the SE/has faster heals with GBH (if u dont know EE doesnt have greater battle heal).. yes and also rly bish can stand as a mini-buffer cuz he can give the lvl 1 zerg but also has body of avatar(u know this body of avatar helps even at ur pvp-servs)...should i go further and proove u with facts that u r so wrong?!
icarus is right-most pts go for WC.. but WVs are not millions and they are not waiting for u to say"here boy!here!"
I didnt say EE is bad healer-he is great healer..
Neither i sayd bish is the beast healer-but bish is specialized in healing.. look at his skills list and u will realize...
marios u sayd that nobody needs greater battle heals.. ur sure?!PVE doesnt mean u will never have PVPs ... like 2 guys come to u and say this is my cata room gtfo..u flag .. they flag.. and?!u dont need gbh?ah yes!u need EE to cast party recall and u all to run away like dogs..or just kick theyr ass cuz ur bish had "supa-dupa-muta-fuka" battle heals:D

Lvlin bish till 75 is not hard if u r not noob(just stick to friends/clan-this is not for idiots like some persons here)


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Your post is full of rubbish i can understand it tho, you're an idiot.

Fact 1) You do not need greater battle heal in PvE.
Fact 2) You do not need balance life/mass rez in PvE. (most of the time)
Fact 3) EE has better mp regen and clarity + Major heal. Good combo.
Fact 4) EE has some extra buffs that may be useful depending on pt.
Fact 5) EE gets PoW and can do it on his self or extra healers/nukers w/e.
Fact 6) Since EE has PoW (even without it) his heal isn't really slow.
Fact 7) EE has almost as good rez as bishop and both have trance.

Which of those facts you don't get retard?
Why would I prefer bishop over EE in my PvE party?
In PvP, I'd get both EE and Bish, in PvE u dont even need 2 healers, mostly at least.

Only reason I'd get Bishop in my PvE party would be:
1) When we go for RBs.
2) When we go destro party. (in my C5 server)
3) IT party for relics farm or Halisha.

So, in any PvE party that is not one of these 3, EE > Bishop.


PS: Ask your friends to powerlevel your bishop?
Isn't that as low as you can get? Begging for exp....

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mariosxx wrote:
Your post is full of rubbish i can understand it tho, you're an idiot.

Fact 1) You do not need greater battle heal in PvE.
Fact 2) You do not need balance life/mass rez in PvE. (most of the time)
Fact 3) EE has better mp regen and clarity + Major heal. Good combo.
Fact 4) EE has some extra buffs that may be useful depending on pt.
Fact 5) EE gets PoW and can do it on his self or extra healers/nukers w/e.
Fact 6) Since EE has PoW (even without it) his heal isn't really slow.
Fact 7) EE has almost as good rez as bishop and both have trance.

Which of those facts you don't get retard?
Why would I prefer bishop over EE in my PvE party?
In PvP, I'd get both EE and Bish, in PvE u dont even need 2 healers, mostly at least.

Only reason I'd get Bishop in my PvE party would be:
1) When we go for RBs.
2) When we go destro party. (in my C5 server)
3) IT party for relics farm or Halisha.

So, in any PvE party that is not one of these 3, EE > Bishop.


PS: Ask your friends to powerlevel your bishop?
Isn't that as low as you can get? Begging for exp....



ofc in PVE EE is better especially with mages :) clarity , recharge it's great

but in PVP both EE and bish are good , but i personally like to play EE more because it's FAST ... i could trance many enemies :P


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pff... the bish is good at pvp and at pve.. why?! u have so much ee/bish friends so u can change them like ur t-shirts?at x4 serv i was bishop so i can tell i was needed everywhere.. with conversion weapon i had high mana... at raids i was better the higher lvl SEs and was close to the EE of my clan(1 bish 1 se 1 ee-healers of the clan i think u get me)..if u want to go farm u first take SE(yes yes low mana but conversion makes ur way thrue) cuz he can heal/recharge/buff-i never used to solo with se cuz i just !SE 67 LFP and get 3-4 pms...next is ofcourse EE... but guys.. when my clan had clanwars the EE had no job...he was just too slow in casting compared to my GBH,balance life(ye with destro in pt its much better and also+1DA lvl 75)...
EE is not more buffer-well evasion(great great!) decr. w8.(yes u can cary more shots!!) and at higher lvl advanced block..ah yes and also wild magic(but compared to SE with emp+wm EE loses the fight) +resist stun-this is powah..elven elder has powater..and what?!who says that bish will be all the time self buffed?!have u ever heard of smth like PARTY(or at high rate servs u dont party cuz u have ykk hp and +1k draconic bow so u dont need nobody and u spam cppots from gmshop)!?
Bish is the guy that can go to raids and to pvps-has higher mana the SE/has faster heals with GBH (if u dont know EE doesnt have greater battle heal).. yes and also rly bish can stand as a mini-buffer cuz he can give the lvl 1 zerg but also has body of avatar(u know this body of avatar helps even at ur pvp-servs)...should i go further and proove u with facts that u r so wrong?!
icarus is right-most pts go for WC.. but WVs are not millions and they are not waiting for u to say"here boy!here!"
I didnt say EE is bad healer-he is great healer..
Neither i sayd bish is the beast healer-but bish is specialized in healing.. look at his skills list and u will realize...
marios u sayd that nobody needs greater battle heals.. ur sure?!PVE doesnt mean u will never have PVPs ... like 2 guys come to u and say this is my cata room gtfo..u flag .. they flag.. and?!u dont need gbh?ah yes!u need EE to cast party recall and u all to run away like dogs..or just kick theyr ass cuz ur bish had "supa-dupa-muta-fuka" battle heals:D

Lvlin bish till 75 is not hard if u r not noob(just stick to friends/clan-this is not for idiots like some persons here)


retard at any raids rechargers are preffered over bishop you moron you never went to a raid. SE for empower + heals and recharges , EE for clarity and advanced block + heal and recharges , PP lvl 78 for POF or WC 78 for tanker party . why would you take a fucking bishop ... you can do any normal raids without it

and moron you don't take bishop to exp party just because it has greater battle heal LOL


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pff... the bish is good at pvp and at pve.. why?! u have so much ee/bish friends so u can change them like ur t-shirts?at x4 serv i was bishop so i can tell i was needed everywhere.. with conversion weapon i had high mana... at raids i was better the higher lvl SEs and was close to the EE of my clan(1 bish 1 se 1 ee-healers of the clan i think u get me)..if u want to go farm u first take SE(yes yes low mana but conversion makes ur way thrue) cuz he can heal/recharge/buff-i never used to solo with se cuz i just !SE 67 LFP and get 3-4 pms...next is ofcourse EE... but guys.. when my clan had clanwars the EE had no job...he was just too slow in casting compared to my GBH,balance life(ye with destro in pt its much better and also+1DA lvl 75)...
EE is not more buffer-well evasion(great great!) decr. w8.(yes u can cary more shots!!) and at higher lvl advanced block..ah yes and also wild magic(but compared to SE with emp+wm EE loses the fight) +resist stun-this is powah..elven elder has powater..and what?!who says that bish will be all the time self buffed?!have u ever heard of smth like PARTY(or at high rate servs u dont party cuz u have ykk hp and +1k draconic bow so u dont need nobody and u spam cppots from gmshop)!?
Bish is the guy that can go to raids and to pvps-has higher mana the SE/has faster heals with GBH (if u dont know EE doesnt have greater battle heal).. yes and also rly bish can stand as a mini-buffer cuz he can give the lvl 1 zerg but also has body of avatar(u know this body of avatar helps even at ur pvp-servs)...should i go further and proove u with facts that u r so wrong?!
icarus is right-most pts go for WC.. but WVs are not millions and they are not waiting for u to say"here boy!here!"
I didnt say EE is bad healer-he is great healer..
Neither i sayd bish is the beast healer-but bish is specialized in healing.. look at his skills list and u will realize...
marios u sayd that nobody needs greater battle heals.. ur sure?!PVE doesnt mean u will never have PVPs ... like 2 guys come to u and say this is my cata room gtfo..u flag .. they flag.. and?!u dont need gbh?ah yes!u need EE to cast party recall and u all to run away like dogs..or just kick theyr ass cuz ur bish had "supa-dupa-muta-fuka" battle heals:D

Lvlin bish till 75 is not hard if u r not noob(just stick to friends/clan-this is not for idiots like some persons here)


retard at any raids rechargers are preffered over bishop you moron you never went to a raid. SE for empower + heals and recharges , EE for clarity and advanced block + heal and recharges , PP lvl 78 for POF or WC 78 for tanker party . why would you take a fucking bishop ... you can do any normal raids without it

and moron you don't take bishop to exp party just because it has greater battle heal LOL

WHAT A HARDASS FUCKING NOOB. The bishop is A MUST AT A RAID DUMBASS. What's the ee gonna do? HEAL THE TANK? Hahaha omfg! If he does that the rb is UPON HIS ASS, that's why a BISHOP is needed as a HEALER, because he has BALANCE LIFE, and balance life doesn't get the aggro on any kind of mob.

Get your facts straight and learn how to edit, stop double posting.

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pff... the bish is good at pvp and at pve.. why?! u have so much ee/bish friends so u can change them like ur t-shirts?at x4 serv i was bishop so i can tell i was needed everywhere.. with conversion weapon i had high mana... at raids i was better the higher lvl SEs and was close to the EE of my clan(1 bish 1 se 1 ee-healers of the clan i think u get me)..if u want to go farm u first take SE(yes yes low mana but conversion makes ur way thrue) cuz he can heal/recharge/buff-i never used to solo with se cuz i just !SE 67 LFP and get 3-4 pms...next is ofcourse EE... but guys.. when my clan had clanwars the EE had no job...he was just too slow in casting compared to my GBH,balance life(ye with destro in pt its much better and also+1DA lvl 75)...
EE is not more buffer-well evasion(great great!) decr. w8.(yes u can cary more shots!!) and at higher lvl advanced block..ah yes and also wild magic(but compared to SE with emp+wm EE loses the fight) +resist stun-this is powah..elven elder has powater..and what?!who says that bish will be all the time self buffed?!have u ever heard of smth like PARTY(or at high rate servs u dont party cuz u have ykk hp and +1k draconic bow so u dont need nobody and u spam cppots from gmshop)!?
Bish is the guy that can go to raids and to pvps-has higher mana the SE/has faster heals with GBH (if u dont know EE doesnt have greater battle heal).. yes and also rly bish can stand as a mini-buffer cuz he can give the lvl 1 zerg but also has body of avatar(u know this body of avatar helps even at ur pvp-servs)...should i go further and proove u with facts that u r so wrong?!
icarus is right-most pts go for WC.. but WVs are not millions and they are not waiting for u to say"here boy!here!"
I didnt say EE is bad healer-he is great healer..
Neither i sayd bish is the beast healer-but bish is specialized in healing.. look at his skills list and u will realize...
marios u sayd that nobody needs greater battle heals.. ur sure?!PVE doesnt mean u will never have PVPs ... like 2 guys come to u and say this is my cata room gtfo..u flag .. they flag.. and?!u dont need gbh?ah yes!u need EE to cast party recall and u all to run away like dogs..or just kick theyr ass cuz ur bish had "supa-dupa-muta-fuka" battle heals:D

Lvlin bish till 75 is not hard if u r not noob(just stick to friends/clan-this is not for idiots like some persons here)


retard at any raids rechargers are preffered over bishop you moron you never went to a raid. SE for empower + heals and recharges , EE for clarity and advanced block + heal and recharges , PP lvl 78 for POF or WC 78 for tanker party . why would you take a fucking bishop ... you can do any normal raids without it

and moron you don't take bishop to exp party just because it has greater battle heal LOL

WHAT A HARDASS FUCKING NOOB. The bishop is A MUST AT A RAID DUMBASS. What's the ee gonna do? HEAL THE TANK? Hahaha omfg! If he does that the rb is UPON HIS ASS, that's why a BISHOP is needed as a HEALER, because he has BALANCE LIFE, and balance life doesn't get the aggro on any kind of mob.

Get your facts straight and learn how to edit, stop double posting.


you fucking moron , if you can't kill a raid with 1 EE and 1 SE means you never went to a raid boss

why the fuck do you think tankers do at the raid? sit there and watch ? no they agro the raid and the minions , that's why u need rechargers IDIOT


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Where did i say that ee isn't welcomed in a rb party?
It's welcomed as a RECHARGER not as a HEALER.

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i see this battle is lost.. not because im wrong.. im still sure in my words...bishop is the guy that is welcomed for rb+pve i sayd why.. when u have clan war bishop is better cuz u dont know when will ur enemyes come for u...i never sayd that EE is bad healer or recharger i sayd that he is great and is better in PVE but he is not specialized in healing.. he has both healing and recharging abilityes+ he has buffs...and just use lineage2.com skills and classes option choose human and look at bishops skills list... u will see the diff...hmm the bish is somehow "agile and flexible" cuz he has nice men+gbh that is usable in any sitcky situation..
this battle is lost because u too mariosxx(how to pronounce it?mariosuxx?)
and wazawanga(ur name is even more retarded cuz it sounds like stupid anime name) never played healer the normal way...(well i donno will others agree my point of normal playing...)
Bish is good at pve+pvp...ive played both.. no arguement both are great..but once again BISH IS ALLAWAYES MUST!HE IS THE CLASS SPEC IN HEALING/resurecting ur bish can res ur pt in no time so even if u die at raids(i remember once Ipos used some kind of mass solar spark or smth like that and we all died)...u stupid asses....
icarus sayd i didnt say in my previous posts and i agree him..so gtfo with ur noobtales stupid I R BABOONS


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pff... the bish is good at pvp and at pve.. why?! u have so much ee/bish friends so u can change them like ur t-shirts?at x4 serv i was bishop so i can tell i was needed everywhere.. with conversion weapon i had high mana... at raids i was better the higher lvl SEs and was close to the EE of my clan(1 bish 1 se 1 ee-healers of the clan i think u get me)..if u want to go farm u first take SE(yes yes low mana but conversion makes ur way thrue) cuz he can heal/recharge/buff-i never used to solo with se cuz i just !SE 67 LFP and get 3-4 pms...next is ofcourse EE... but guys.. when my clan had clanwars the EE had no job...he was just too slow in casting compared to my GBH,balance life(ye with destro in pt its much better and also+1DA lvl 75)...
EE is not more buffer-well evasion(great great!) decr. w8.(yes u can cary more shots!!) and at higher lvl advanced block..ah yes and also wild magic(but compared to SE with emp+wm EE loses the fight) +resist stun-this is powah..elven elder has powater..and what?!who says that bish will be all the time self buffed?!have u ever heard of smth like PARTY(or at high rate servs u dont party cuz u have ykk hp and +1k draconic bow so u dont need nobody and u spam cppots from gmshop)!?
Bish is the guy that can go to raids and to pvps-has higher mana the SE/has faster heals with GBH (if u dont know EE doesnt have greater battle heal).. yes and also rly bish can stand as a mini-buffer cuz he can give the lvl 1 zerg but also has body of avatar(u know this body of avatar helps even at ur pvp-servs)...should i go further and proove u with facts that u r so wrong?!
icarus is right-most pts go for WC.. but WVs are not millions and they are not waiting for u to say"here boy!here!"
I didnt say EE is bad healer-he is great healer..
Neither i sayd bish is the beast healer-but bish is specialized in healing.. look at his skills list and u will realize...
marios u sayd that nobody needs greater battle heals.. ur sure?!PVE doesnt mean u will never have PVPs ... like 2 guys come to u and say this is my cata room gtfo..u flag .. they flag.. and?!u dont need gbh?ah yes!u need EE to cast party recall and u all to run away like dogs..or just kick theyr ass cuz ur bish had "supa-dupa-muta-fuka" battle heals:D

Lvlin bish till 75 is not hard if u r not noob(just stick to friends/clan-this is not for idiots like some persons here)


retard at any raids rechargers are preffered over bishop you moron you never went to a raid. SE for empower + heals and recharges , EE for clarity and advanced block + heal and recharges , PP lvl 78 for POF or WC 78 for tanker party . why would you take a fucking bishop ... you can do any normal raids without it

and moron you don't take bishop to exp party just because it has greater battle heal LOL


my stupid little friend.. u have never rolled bish... dont talk shit about that.. u take bish cuz he has prayer and purify(EE lacks the both and Se the purify) combined with song of water(?!) and tank with high CON the hp reg rate is great...
Bishops dont go in PTs only cuz they have GBH and also those 2 above..and yes GBH makes the difference if u r so stupid and dont know english i can undertand but i think u havent read my post.. l2 is not smth like chess...the enviornment changes all the time... atm u dont need any gbh but in next sec an idiot comes to u with train (in cata) and just quits cata via gatekeeper ziggurat and all those mobs run back.. some are agro.. ofcourse your tank is not noob and handles the situation but the normal greater heals are too slow.. so he uses balance life and doesnt get agro but sacrifices some of the pt members hp and keeps the tank alive(tank keeps agro all the time) and starts using GH+GBH+GH+GBH i met maybe hundreds of situations like this.. also there is great great skill called BENEDICTION(check lineage2.com for more inf) and also at supa dupa high lvl the Salvation kicks ass...if ur tank dyes at rb u can bring him back to life in no time with buffs and at "good hp"(u see the advantage of the bish?)
i think if u use some of ur brains u can find the answer


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