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 Post subject: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:37 pm 
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Hello people. I'm playing for paladin and often have problems with daggers in oly. Could you give me some advices how to beat them?

I'm playing in 100x gracia final server where everybody has dynasty items and skills enchanted +15/+30. I have root +30, shield slam +15, and tribunal +30 divine damage.

When fight starts daggers always use hide, so I use ud in order to avoid bluff and backstab. When hide ends I try to root him and attack but he uses Escape Shackle and ultimate evasion so it becomes really difficult for me to catch him. When one ud ends he attacks me then I use another ud and he runs away from me. I try to root and shield slam him but it is difficult because of mental shield and his enchanted passive skills. When all my ud ends he attack and kills me.

I face the same problem most times but I know that some other paladins in my server beat daggers easily. What I do wrong and what should I do? :)


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:42 pm 
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can you give me the link of your server


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:14 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:38 pm 
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Enchant stun obviously go and smash the dagger use ud when its needed ok ? Start with PRE-AI + TOL when ur hp goes under 60 % use blunt during AI and the dagger will be dead soon

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:58 pm 
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Krikstopatevis wrote:
Hello people. I'm playing for paladin and often have problems with daggers in oly. Could you give me some advices how to beat them?

I'm playing in 100x gracia final server where everybody has dynasty items and skills enchanted +15/+30. I have root +30, shield slam +15, and tribunal +30 divine damage.

When fight starts daggers always use hide, so I use ud in order to avoid bluff and backstab. When hide ends I try to root him and attack but he uses Escape Shackle and ultimate evasion so it becomes really difficult for me to catch him. When one ud ends he attacks me then I use another ud and he runs away from me. I try to root and shield slam him but it is difficult because of mental shield and his enchanted passive skills. When all my ud ends he attack and kills me.

I face the same problem most times but I know that some other paladins in my server beat daggers easily. What I do wrong and what should I do? :)

Use skills to hit him, tribunal cant be avoided it will always deal dmg to him and ue/83 skill wont make him evade it, start the fight with pre-angelic and tol, when he runs away use fkin bow
Also very important r sunskills, i personally would go for haste, long shot and celestial/spirit


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:56 pm 
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biglol wasnt tribunal influenced by p.atk since freya?

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:58 pm 
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he meant that it can't be dodged (atleast how I understood it) no matter how much evasion or skill dodge rate the dagger has


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:37 pm 
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BigLoL wrote:
Use skills to hit him, tribunal cant be avoided it will always deal dmg to him and ue/83 skill wont make him evade it, start the fight with pre-angelic and tol, when he runs away use fkin bow
Also very important r sunskills, i personally would go for haste, long shot and celestial/spirit


The problem is that he has good evasion and it is really difficult to hit him with bow...
Another problem is with mp owing to the fact that I have to keep fortitude on to avoid getting bluff and I often run out of mp.


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:31 pm 
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in UE,wind riding,ghost hunting and exciting adventure they can dodge physical skills(tribunal),my advice is to get a mage weap and get a nuke augument and nuke his ass...that will definately gonna win ur pvp!


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:26 pm 
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Gringo wrote:
in UE,wind riding,ghost hunting and exciting adventure they can dodge physical skills(tribunal)
ur wrong about that, it's not possible to dodge skills with an added "debuff" effect (such as RI, tribunal, hammer crush etc)


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:20 pm 
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judgement does dmg,so it can be avoided


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:26 pm 
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IT CANNOT BE AVOIDED, unless it's some loll2j server, I've played on official (during pts only) couldn't be avoided, I got friends on official, they use it, since it CANNOT BE AVOIDED


did u even read my post before u posted ur answer? I said skills that have an added "debuff", such as tribunal, hammer crush and rush impact, they all do damage, and they all add some kind of debuff (that being the tribunal debuff from tribunal, and stun from RI and hammer crush)


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:27 am 
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Gringo wrote:
in UE,wind riding,ghost hunting and exciting adventure they can dodge physical skills(tribunal),my advice is to get a mage weap and get a nuke augument and nuke his ass...that will definately gonna win ur pvp!

no, u cant avoid physical skills with debuff effect (examples: stun shot, tribunal, rush impact, bleed, judgement, shield stun, shield bash, cripple, hammer crash, armor crush etc)

those skills will always hit the target, no matter if the dagger uses ue/dodge/ghost walking/wind riding/exciting adventure, at least it should work like that, if it doesnt - change ur lolserver :D


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:41 pm 
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The whole topic taht u cant kill a dagger seems crazy to me but..

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix Knight Vs Daggers in Oly
PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:45 pm 
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NoFreaksAll0wed wrote:
The whole topic taht u cant kill a dagger seems crazy to me but..

That dagger has fakin greatly enchanted skills so it is not so easy as it looks like...


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