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 Post subject: Archers on Gracia final/epilogue ?!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:26 am 
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Hi there. I know there are 100000 posts about archers, but i didnt find something exactly of what i`m looking for. Plz dont flame :S

I`m playin a low rate server X4 and soon will be gracia.
I want to reroll a Ghost Sentinl but i`ve heard that in gracia final is totaly sux . I know that more melle`s and mage`s are now OP. Is that true ?
Does it worth it t make an arcer on gracia or not ?

2nd problem:
What about subclass trigger? I`ve heard that only 1 works and if u atack or use skills it wll be remove as a buff ? Is it true ?


What about subs if something changes on gf ? Celstial , haste and spirit is good ?


TY in advance and plz dont flame :)


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 Post subject: Re: Archers on Gracia final/epilogue ?!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:58 am 
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Make Silver Ranger, it has great atk. spd and can kite very good since he is very fast and has counter dash.


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 Post subject: Re: Archers on Gracia final/epilogue ?!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:13 am 
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paranoia wrote:
Hi there. I know there are 100000 posts about archers, but i didnt find something exactly of what i`m looking for. Plz dont flame :S

I`m playin a low rate server X4 and soon will be gracia.
I want to reroll a Ghost Sentinl but i`ve heard that in gracia final is totaly sux . I know that more melle`s and mage`s are now OP. Is that true ?
Does it worth it t make an arcer on gracia or not ?

2nd problem:
What about subclass trigger? I`ve heard that only 1 works and if u atack or use skills it wll be remove as a buff ? Is it true ?


What about subs if something changes on gf ? Celstial , haste and spirit is good ?


TY in advance and plz dont flame :)



You can't take haste on archers. I'd take Cele/ud/summoner spirrit.
And please search the sticky topic called SUB CLASS SKILLS FOR ALL CLASSES ... there are all the skills you need to know about.

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=34244

hf

And yes..reroll to a Silver Ranger since it's the best archer for 1v1/mass...

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 Post subject: Re: Archers on Gracia final/epilogue ?!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:23 pm 
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You CAN take counter haste on archer but it doesnt increase the atk speed when bow is equipped (unless its GF)

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:54 am 
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sherman die please. Painfully and slowly preferably.

I somewhat agree with youjustgotowned. They haven't changed much, but they always depend on what buffs you got access too. If your pc is on the low end, and can run max 2 boxes, make an SR. If your pc is better and can run a full buff squad, I would make a PR. With full buffs, including dances and songs, cat buff also if you can get it, I think its the best, because of its crit damage.

I don't think they've ever really been nerfed, or really left behind the other classes either. I personally hate mage classes, and love pawning them with archer classes :)


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:24 pm 
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Archers are kinda useless against cop + cc + rez. song , but still if u got a HE with:

- good gear (bow + {PvP} + 300 atr + p atk/duel might passive)

- buffers (bd sws wc /Dwarfs's buff is kinda imba :D if u kite)

- extra classes (u need them in pt if u want to make good dmg):
°Soh (death mark)
°Arbalester(very important, real target +30 decress p def is IMBA)
°WK (cat's buff)
°WC with Great Fury

- sub cert skills:
°Range (passive, class ability - rogue)
°Celestial (trigger, class ability - enchanter)
°Focus passive (passive, any master ability)

- Epics: qa + baium (tezza,zaken,antharas also if u can get)

- Enchanted skills:
°Snipe +30 decress penality
°Stun +30 chance
°Hamstring +15 chance
°Pasive skills +++;



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 Post subject: Re: Archers on Gracia final/epilogue ?!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:25 am 
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hes right, archers need to be stacked, enchanted and oe skills if you wanna do something with them
if your party sux, your archer will suck even harder, sorry but thats how it goes.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:56 pm 
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xandy wrote:
hes right, archers need to be stacked, enchanted and oe skills if you wanna do something with them
if your party sux, your archer will suck even harder, sorry but thats how it goes.

enchanting skills till +20 or so, isnt so hard on g final/epilogue

the important thing is to have a good party (cp) buffers etc


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 Post subject: Re: Archers on Gracia final/epilogue ?!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:47 pm 
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Sir Aragon wrote:
I don't think they've ever really been nerfed, or really left behind the other classes either. I personally hate mage classes, and love pawning them with archer classes :)


soon more close combat ranged attackers can rush into archers, attr. on freya no longer have high priority and the skills are just not enough to work with
as a HE on 66 even with drac bow+mj light if i get any enemies up close, the damage is terrible even on low lvls and in pvp almost all classes got resistances or can easily get close/kill u in 5seconds

it sucks in pvp and to be good in pve, u rly need a good party and a place to be even able to do sth
it was good, but was left behind actually and with these rushes and range penality, ncsoft proved they didn't forget about archers, in a negative meaning


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:46 am 
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Hi guys...i saw ur comments....SO: is it worth to make an archer on epilogue ? or they just sux hard and i will be killed by an elpy ? :)


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:41 am 
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If you got access to decent buffers I would do it. If you don't role something else. If you can box a buffer and BD and SWS you'll pawn.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:40 am 
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if your server will switch to hi5 then yes :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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