you're the only one being pathethic here... "every1 owns daggers"... LOL at that... "daggers are very nice pve chars" LOL at that too... try leveling one...really dude... every time you reply to this topic... you just burry yourself deeper and deeper... just go try a dagger with decent dyes then tell me of your experience... warrior bane wont last forever... when it worns off I just use sprint and greater swift potion... I said I would use that after the batle not meanwhile... you say on pw eevrything will land... lol at that... then I supose you think everything lands on all other warrior classes... cause elf fighters got the highest MEN of all fighter races... bah... I dont even know if you make me laugh or cry with your replies... they're at same time funny and sad...

ok,try pvping a decent player and then think and then reply.
oh and yes,daggers are easy to lvl-up especially with right dyes and a nice set of buffs.gladiators,overlords,bishops,elven elders => these are hard to lvlup chars because you can't really solo very well and almost noone will take you into party.

again I agree with siradrian---
god...

I repeat...
don't know what kind of server u use to play...
or against what kind of players...

no disrespect intended...
but you make me laugh almost every time I read ur replys xD

sir adrian you are the biggest fucking retard on the planet.

Crit rate is not necessary in pvp for a dagger.

UE? UE doesn't affect a dagger, PERIOD. not until CT1, when evasion affects skill land rate, and even then it might not affect dagger blows.

-8STR is the way to go for pvp daggers. it makes about a 50 dmg difference, and adds loads of other things.

dex barely affects blow land rate, from my knowledge. im not sure though.

a fully buffed dagger with no focus skills will hit a nuker for around 3k dmg. 1.5k on necro/summer. PW/AW will hit for almost 6k from behind, and 3k on necro/summoner.

daggers blow in self buffed pvp, for the most part. but in full buffed pvp, the only thing that gives them ANY problem is archers.

warrior bane is a laugh, considering - blinding blow on the summon, or dash. and attack speed wont matter when you still have your crit damage buffs. meaning, you're still striking for 1.5k-3k dmg. attack the cat? yea, lets attack the cat that HAS LESS DEFENCE THEN A GODDAMN NUKER. you'll hit the cat for 3k+++ easy, on full buffs. outheal that.

adrian - at your comment about daggerrs being nice and easy to level up with the right dyes and a nice set of buffs. ANY class is easy to lvl with the right dyes and a nice set of buffs.

holy fucking shit adrian. do you know what mental shield is? you're gonna have a TOUGH time landing ANY seal or root while mental shield is up. and trick/switch can interrupt hamstring shot, and cancel.

as fanboyish as I am with my DA, even im not stupid enough to go up against a fully buffed dagger that can two shot my panther, without using focus deathl.

" it will just make me use sprint and haste potion after the fight ends.."

he said he'd use them AFTER the fight, not while fighting the AL. how the fuck does the AL use warrior bane if he's dead?


Im off to sleep now, i'll post more later.



P.S. @ Icarus: isn't blinding blow the same effect as dash1? or am I thinking of something else?

first off,watch your language.i've not offended you.if you've pvped against noobs or botters/e-bayers that doesn't mean you're better than them or that the dagger owns.oh and for the last time,get this straigth to your head: THE BEST CLASS IN PVP IS THE DOMINATOR.NOBODY CAN BEAT THE DOMINATOR.a skilled dominator that is,not just a drain-drain-drain one.and if you think you can kill an arcana lord with a dagger,then please go play fifa or nfs.

Sorry but i don't agree with this ... if it was true all people will play dominator... i don't think dominator is like the best player... with my Sagnitarius and with full buffs i killed dominators... I think NcSoft try hard to make the game balanced and
if a certan char can beat any other char the game becomes useless to play...

well,the dominator is the best class in pvp but at the same time it's the hardest to play with.of course any newbie HE or necro can own a dominator,but that's not the case with skilled dominators

you've offended with me your unbelievable idiocy.

the only thing a dominator can do beside drain is use seals, and guess what: every single seal is affected by mental shield. and even if your enemy doesn't have mental shield, and you rattle off your seals, you'll have very little mana for actual draining. so what else are you gonna do? use a bow?

a fully buffed dagger will rape the ever loving shit out of any summoner. that is a fact. if you don't believe me, then i'll be happy to prove it to you for yourself.

http://youtube.com/v/6PrsWhZNk2k
http://youtube.com/v/gtGZWN_ioeU
http://youtube.com/v/Okfg8vnEVFI
http://youtube.com/v/6PrsWhZNk2k
http://youtube.com/v/q6sLv-1HlPc
http://youtube.com/v/L-QK7fkJxeI
http://youtube.com/v/PgojSHLZgsc
http://youtube.com/v/5VO3Fkrjl84
http://youtube.com/v/xBDq_2aOqrY

ok,excuse my "idiocy",but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SELF BUFFS!
and about those videos... hero? full buffs? backblows?
get the hell outta here.

if you want to talk of self buffs, SAY IT. don't just automatically assume everyone knows. if you read my posts, I repeatedly stated a dagger will crush almost anything on full buffs. FULL BUFFS. Do you read ENGLISH?

all pvp related talk means self buffs only.i onlt talked about that.if you get the other classes buffed as well,they'll still laugh in the dagger's face.so please stop swearing/offending and take a moment to realise that if you like the dagger,this doesn't make it imba or that it can own any class except support.

btw


dvp
never used a windrider
loooooooooool xDDDDDD

in the videos he's even using HE class xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD


weren't we talkin about of the superiority of the WR among other dagger classes???
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Jesus Christ.... now I finally understood what is siradrian idea of pvp... for him pvp is SELF BUFFS...
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Jesus Christ... you're probably that kind of guy that when somebody flags you, you desactivate soulshots, take off hp/mp pots from skillbar so you cant use them and dont use cp pots too to make a "Fair Fight"... well if this is the case... then you're the kind of people that will only win a pvp if the enemy has critical error during the fight... Self buffs is for olympiad only and every1 knows that olympiad is a completly diferent world...
oh and dark passion try to calm down.... I know that is irritating when you are 100% sure that you're right still every1 says you're dumb and that things... but lets try to keep this thing up so that the topic maker (that I didnt see replying any further to topic) can understand what is his problem when playing WR...

Guys i see u have serious discussion here but for me is quite funny to read it hahahah )) Maybe for u is insulting but reading this really made my day ))

usually when pvping,you don't say to your enemy: "hey,wait! let me go get some buffs and then we can fight" or "ok,now turn around and let me backstab".it's like this: you're porting to and area and get camped or you see someone from far away which doesn't give you any advantage because you have to either backstab or use deadly blow/some other dagger skills but for that you need to get close.