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 Post subject: Weapon & SA for bishop
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:56 pm 
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Hi.I would like to ask u what do u think it is better for a bishop.
Crystal staff with mana up or homu with conversion?
I have no idea what to choose so it would me nice to give some help.ty


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:26 am 
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Never go for a conversion Weapon
you are probably the last target in PVE but once you heal a tank a little bit or once you cast prayer/boa, you get aggro most of time.
As cardinal, i've only used conversion weapon during regen phase to cast boa/prayer and then switch on my acumen weapon and still be full mp.

An SE get aggro less time than a bishop bt btw, in high level fields (76+), no shillen saint is using a conversion weapon anymore because once they mp regen someone, they get aggro too (we've killed anakazel RB78 yesterday in rift and our shillen saint got the aggro for around 2 minutes cause of his mp regen on the tank)


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:54 pm 
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i think staff with mana up is better...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:36 pm 
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Ive played bish for a long time
PVP-mj robe+acumen weapon
Raiding:MJ/bw +convertion
PVE:its v dangerous to go with +convertion weapon to places like catacombs and etc cuz some mobs are v agressive,some are mass spellcasters and etc so if u have some money get +mana up
but i allawayes use +convertion.. i simply never run out of mana
anyway if u r good healer u can do ur job without agroing the mobs around u...ofcourse u have to have a good tank... and also @lightoflife.. cmon dont joke my shillen saints allawayes use convertion...i never die/never get agro of the mobs..and at RB most cases ive been only healer with my SE and i made my job pretty good...so CONVERTION FTW! but ull get adrenaline rush sometimes:D


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:54 pm 
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now i'm using homun-acu

i think ill use a mana-up SA weapon when i have my +wit -men tattoo.. if ever


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:27 pm 
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no amber dont lower ur men... u have good cast anyway so +wit wont be such a great thing+in sticky situations u can GBH


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:47 pm 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
no amber dont lower ur men... u have good cast anyway so +wit wont be such a great thing+in sticky situations u can GBH


i was just thinking of incresing the percentage of exp to be restored when using resu. dont have final plans with having a tattoo yet. thanks for the advice though ^_^


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how much will the percentage increase?why not -int..ur trance will fail often but rly who cares if u play as a healer not pvper..i <3 bishop cuz of his healing abilityes:Dand ofc high men


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:07 pm 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
how much will the percentage increase?why not -int..ur trance will fail often but rly who cares if u play as a healer not pvper..i <3 bishop cuz of his healing abilityes:Dand ofc high men

Yes, cuz OFC bishop(healers generally) can go - int. lol
You played bishop for a long time huh? :P

On topic, +5 wit -5 ment and +4 con -5 str....
DC/tallum robe set and acu weapon.
Don't go conversion. lol

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:17 pm 
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i dont exactly know.. but this is an example using an online l2 calculator:

Character Level: 57
Resurrection Level: 5 [50%], M.Resu: 4 [40%], Wit: 20 [no tattoo yet]
+5wit = resu: 64%, m.resu: 51%

Character Level: 60
Resu: Lvl 6, 55%; M.Resu: Lvl 5, 50%; same wit [20]
+5wit = resu: 70%, m.resu: 64%


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:00 am 
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mariosxx wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
how much will the percentage increase?why not -int..ur trance will fail often but rly who cares if u play as a healer not pvper..i <3 bishop cuz of his healing abilityes:Dand ofc high men

Yes, cuz OFC bishop(healers generally) can go - int. lol
You played bishop for a long time huh? :P

On topic, +5 wit -5 ment and +4 con -5 str....
DC/tallum robe set and acu weapon.
Don't go conversion. lol


ahh marios shut the f up man.. this question was retoric if u dont know what does it mean go check wikipedia or somewhere else...
DONT GO -MEN FFS!!!!!! U NEED UR FKIN MANA TO HEAL!! WHY SHOULD U GO -MEN?! I DONT GET IT!!!FFS!
If u dont want to loose ur hp(bleh) go for mana up(ur mana still will be high).And just do the math!if u want to go +wit choose the tallum set(+2wit-2int!) and also 8% m def! this is great..but ofcourse mj pwnz all with that 8% mp reg + ur men dyes+ur convertion(manaup) weapon u r mana monster!
OFCOURSE GO FOR CONVERTION.Convertion=Shitloadz of mana+u have GBH so u wont die...man pls dont teach me how to play healer class....at raid most noobz that go -men endup at the half of raids hp without any mp...-5 men for ur dyes + the -2 MEN of dc set =-7 men for fak sake!THIS IS SO STUPID!ye great u have higher cast but wtf?for what do u need that cast spd?dont tell that at raids u need it if u cant manage to heal ur tank with normal GH go play summoner...Ye now u have also great exp recovery with ur resurects...but only for that shit u loose so much mana + U CAN BE INTERRUPTED SO EASLY AND UR CURSE RESISTANCE GOES DOOOWN!And ffs u can get blessed resurect scrolls and woalla ur great!
Remember the healer with the most mana pwnz all other..u dont roll the bishop only for resurecting.. if u r enough good bish and ur fellows are not naabz u wont need ur resurecting so often(exception-sieges and etc mass battles but at mass pvps ull be first target so if ur fellows die u r 100% dead.So u cant res them again cuz ur enemyes come closer-they dont stand there and w8 for u to res ur pt members)
P.S: Go learn some math cuz if u have +4con u cant do -5 str...


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:58 am 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
ahh marios shut the f up man.. this question was retoric if u dont know what does it mean go check wikipedia or somewhere else...
DONT GO -MEN FFS!!!!!! U NEED UR FKIN MANA TO HEAL!! WHY SHOULD U GO -MEN?! I DONT GET IT!!!FFS!
If u dont want to loose ur hp(bleh) go for mana up(ur mana still will be high).And just do the math!if u want to go +wit choose the tallum set(+2wit-2int!) and also 8% m def! this is great..but ofcourse mj pwnz all with that 8% mp reg + ur men dyes+ur convertion(manaup) weapon u r mana monster!
OFCOURSE GO FOR CONVERTION.Convertion=Shitloadz of mana+u have GBH so u wont die...man pls dont teach me how to play healer class....at raid most noobz that go -men endup at the half of raids hp without any mp...-5 men for ur dyes + the -2 MEN of dc set =-7 men for fak sake!THIS IS SO STUPID!ye great u have higher cast but wtf?for what do u need that cast spd?dont tell that at raids u need it if u cant manage to heal ur tank with normal GH go play summoner...Ye now u have also great exp recovery with ur resurects...but only for that shit u loose so much mana + U CAN BE INTERRUPTED SO EASLY AND UR CURSE RESISTANCE GOES DOOOWN!And ffs u can get blessed resurect scrolls and woalla ur great!
Remember the healer with the most mana pwnz all other..u dont roll the bishop only for resurecting.. if u r enough good bish and ur fellows are not naabz u wont need ur resurecting so often(exception-sieges and etc mass battles but at mass pvps ull be first target so if ur fellows die u r 100% dead.So u cant res them again cuz ur enemyes come closer-they dont stand there and w8 for u to res ur pt members)
P.S: Go learn some math cuz if u have +4con u cant do -5 str...

1st of all, - 5 ment is JUST like - 100 overall MP or so.
Also, highlighted 2 sentenced for the lulz.
Yes, bish will do much rez in siege zone.
And what do you mean that you cant do +4 con -5 str? Pvp server+++ ?

Also, you go acumen wep and set with best c speed bonus (tallum/dc)
for pvp ofc. Who cares about exp pt? Not like anyone parties bish before
he gets balance life. And in pvp speed matters. A fast healer/rez-er.
Not some lousy slow low hp healer.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:28 am 
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oh, no argument please.

i both get your point. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:43 am 
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All a Bishop needs is:
DC robe
Tateo OE +4 +5
arcana mace with acumen/som with acumen
90% ress very fast cast DC robe gives nice resist for stuns and bonus to p.def .... bishop doesnt need tallum cuz he have more then 1900 mdef with Tateo OE perfect for pvp's ... Bishops dont kill mobs wtf they leach form others cuz the others know later the bishop will keep them alive in mass pvp lol...


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:20 pm 
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wo0t the bishop is mainly used at raidbosses as far as i know..at lvls 40-67
my bishop was The Healer....i never used to go for -men this is stupidity..should i remind that u lower ur curse resistance and ur mp regeneration?u think in 1 direction-wo0t wo0t I REZ 90% EXP WOOT I R POWER BISHOP...
but in pvp curses will land easyer..and dont be fkin me there is gona be very long way till u get OE tateo...and arcana mace.. u r not the guy that goes for pvp.. ur greater battle heals are fast enough!but ur mana will run out too fast.. i wont reply u anymore cuz it loox like our play styles differ greatly...
Well its ur choice... go for res exp% and lower ur other stats + at raids u will feel the difference
@marios DUDE CMON i see u dont have much brains but xD ... i feel that u havent played bishop at low rate servs...
ur setups ruin the Healer but make the Resurecter better...+the pvp guy should have the S grade jewels to be something...but again i say ur bishop doesnt need DC set..MJ/Tallum is better
Bgrullz--as far as i know only idiots put BG to theyr names so i understand u...im sure uve played bish only at high rate servers cuz if u go 4 that set(btw ur clan wont be there only for u...keep in mind that mages will need the set not u...wo0t to give SoM to bishop and not to SH for example is total stupidity and shows again u know only pvpservers bishop)
P.S about the -5str sry im wrong.. those shity dyes that lower more than they boost(btw the -5 str is nothing for the bish)


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