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even with FULL BUFFS TH has lower land rate... do the math now...all blows of the AW get ur ass or 1 of 3 misses ur target(if u r TH) at full buffs AW is best cuz if he has resist shock+mj+con dyes he will not get stunned!and when we look at his blow land rate u should understand that AW rox.... at "endgame" as u love saying...lets say TH eats the dust...the mortal strike+focus death makes the AW stronger
On full buffs all have almost same land rate and TH have like 10k hp and guss what the stuped TH on full buffs have same or even more atk speed then PW now u can think about that.I will cry that i have to agree with Waza but u are rly full retired idiot pking low lvl players on x5 server like dvp with lot's of cp poitons and always full buffed and when some TH or HE on same buff lvl gear come to u and send u in the hell u type n00b.But who is the real n00b?


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No, my theory is that most l2j servers are bugged. FACT.
You said you have no problems. That's what disturbed me. No problems means that you don't even waste time to cast slow or other curses. Pure hurricane and he dies? I didn't say you have to be noob to be killed by a mage. If you get slowed game over. If you get CoD game over. Anchor = game over also.

@Waza, the one who should be learning l2 is you. The truth is it can be sensed in your language. You have NEVER EVER played aw. You're saying it's a bad class because most that play this class are wannabes just like you are. If you're so smart, how come you were never right around here?

How can you say the high blow land rate is nothing? See? You never played it. Give me proof of the server you play on, i don't believe you play over there. Your mind is 100% altered, thinking that the human race is the best in pvp. Get real because it's not. See the light. In ct1 necro nerfed, pure truth. Th was great before focus death was 'invented'.

Don't tell me you get stunned with mj light on. You're getting into fiction, not l2.
And don't try to teach me th, neither pw or aw, and especially sieges. I know sieges roughly well.


dude all you know is to do calculations on l2calc.l2blah but 0 experience
i think half of your posts are about how AW's dps blow land rate , high dex and str , super skills like focus death and mortal strike and how very imbalanced it is compared to other dagger classes .... these are small things , TH and AW can't be so different as classes and skills , the buffs are the ones who make the real difference

i never said aw is a bad class .. on 1vs1 maybe it's the best vs all light wearers and mages it's just that i don't like to play low CON

but i never go to 1vs1 stupid pvp vs another dagger where 90% of the fight depends on luck ... i always go at clan wars , on my server you can't dual-box so ... most of the 1vs1 on my server should be in Oly on self buff unless you got a slave in town to buff you , but anyway on a pvp i get at least WC bd buffs.... and maybe cat or sws

you said that you know to play at sieges so rough , but imo you never made a rush with an aw into any castle to see how it's like to get stun and die in a few secs :) .

remember this is massively multi player game , it's all about clans alliances wars sieges and group activity, if you play on a server with dual-box where you can create own buffers... go shoot yourself

give me 2 reasons why should i prove to you that i play on supreme and ill post my screen tomorrow


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Are you blind? I said prove it because your mind is 100% altered, and most of the people here agree.

How could you possibly get stunned in a few seconds with mj light set hum? Never played aw, that's the problem. +50% stun resist is something that should be considered, and in medium, every good player should have an antharas on him, since it's not that hard to get. That means what? +65% stun resist in total with +15% chances to land bluff? Dude come on.

Stun shot rather weak, only 0.5 (50%) base land rate. With 32 con you're gonna have about 35% chances to catch it. With mj light and antharas it simulates the con to around 52 con, which means under 15% chances to catch stun. You'll get stunned badly right? Sure.

I know this game very well, if you try to teach me again i'll expell your every single statement, because you make mistakes and i can accentuate them very easily. You know better.

It's not imbalanced since it has such a low hp. It's either you avoid damage and do miracles, either you die and do nothing. NO RISK NO FUN.

About sieges: you just demonstrated how stupid you are. Since when does the aw and generally the dark elves enter the castles first? No idea? Only tanks enter. Let's see... Sk goes in, bd behind, assistant, pr is a ranged dd, so no reason to go in and the aw is a close ranged damage dealer which avoids damage.

About my server: you are either a complete moron because you didn't read my whole posts, either you are just making a fool out of yourself. I play l2dex, how many times to i have to repeat?


I may not have a lot of experience, since i don't play l2 regularily anymore. But i can assure you, my experience is greater than yours. Don't ever make the mistake of teaching me this game again. I mean it.

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Are you blind? I said prove it because your mind is 100% altered, and most of the people here agree.

How could you possibly get stunned in a few seconds with mj light set hum? Never played aw, that's the problem. +50% stun resist is something that should be considered, and in medium, every good player should have an antharas on him, since it's not that hard to get. That means what? +65% stun resist in total with +15% chances to land bluff? Dude come on.

Stun shot rather weak, only 0.5 (50%) base land rate. With 32 con you're gonna have about 35% chances to catch it. With mj light and antharas it simulates the con to around 52 con, which means under 15% chances to catch stun. You'll get stunned badly right? Sure.

I know this game very well, if you try to teach me again i'll expell your every single statement, because you make mistakes and i can accentuate them very easily. You know better.

It's not imbalanced since it has such a low hp. It's either you avoid damage and do miracles, either you die and do nothing. NO RISK NO FUN.

About sieges: you just demonstrated how stupid you are. Since when does the aw and generally the dark elves enter the castles first? No idea? Only tanks enter. Let's see... Sk goes in, bd behind, assistant, pr is a ranged dd, so no reason to go in and the aw is a close ranged damage dealer which avoids damage.

About my server: you are either a complete moron because you didn't read my whole posts, either you are just making a fool out of yourself. I play l2dex, how many times to i have to repeat?


I may not have a lot of experience, since i don't play l2 regularily anymore. But i can assure you, my experience is greater than yours. Don't ever make the mistake of teaching me this game again. I mean it.


you say AW is imbalanced compared to TH not me

the sk goes in ? dude at a rush it goes 4-5 full parties not 1 tank followed by 1 bd archers get inside and start killing , malee try to get on the walls to slay the mages ... i bet you got a shit clan with 4-5 ppl online and go to shit sieges no more than 30 ppl

and you say now about antharas earing ... why ? because you are lost you are making up things now .... you can go fuck yourself with your calculations and everything .. not everybody can get anthy earing you know, on a siege there are full parties of archers not 1 which tries to stun you, and most of the archers play as main an archer ... that means enchanted skills +9 stun chance top gear ..

dude with this post you made i'm 100% sure that you know shit about sieges and mass pvp ..... go teach other ppl your bullshit about 1vs1 aw > th calculations


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DUDE. What do i say and what do you understand?

I NEVER said aw is imbalanced face to face with the th.

And about sieges, GET THE FUCK OUT! A party of AWs go inside the castle first right? :D Fucking moron. I said GENERALLY SPEAKING: THE SK GOES IN THE AW STAYS OUT. That means A PARTY OF SKs GO IN, while A PARTY OF AWs STAY OUT. OR: A PARTY OF TANKS GET IN and A PARTY OF DDs THAT DIE EASY STAY OUT.

About my calculations? LICK MY ASS CUNT. Without calculations you'd be out there grappling your ass testing and finding out how to increase your blow damage BY YOURSELF; WONDERING WHY MIGHT AND DANCE OF WARRIOR DON'T GIVE EXTRA DAMAGE.

This is the last post in which i explain EVERYTHING to you. Your stupidity is something rare. Next time feel free to think ANYTHING you want, because people won't listen to your bullshit AND I WILL INTEGRATE IN THAT CATEGORY.

We are getting offtopic so
/end thread.

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i'm mostly afk for two weeks or so but i found a question here about DA vs Summoners.
Summoners can kill DA ..good chances.
If DA gets kitty out => betray => more damage against DA and "traitor summons" do damage directly to HP.while 2 summons are attacking the DA just debuff/hope cubics to trigger or whatever.
if DA does NOT get kitty out => attack normally and just run and let your summon damage the DA and hope slow doesn't land.
but that's just oly

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DUDE. What do i say and what do you understand?

I NEVER said aw is imbalanced face to face with the th.

And about sieges, GET THE FUCK OUT! A party of AWs go inside the castle first right? :D Fucking moron. I said GENERALLY SPEAKING: THE SK GOES IN THE AW STAYS OUT. That means A PARTY OF SKs GO IN, while A PARTY OF AWs STAY OUT. OR: A PARTY OF TANKS GET IN and A PARTY OF DDs THAT DIE EASY STAY OUT.

About my calculations? LICK MY ASS CUNT. Without calculations you'd be out there grappling your ass testing and finding out how to increase your blow damage BY YOURSELF; WONDERING WHY MIGHT AND DANCE OF WARRIOR DON'T GIVE EXTRA DAMAGE.

This is the last post in which i explain EVERYTHING to you. Your stupidity is something rare. Next time feel free to think ANYTHING you want, because people won't listen to your bullshit AND I WILL INTEGRATE IN THAT CATEGORY.

We are getting offtopic so
/end thread.


you are making up things to look smarter ? and start to swear ppl when you are not right ....

you proved once again that you never went to a siege over 100 ppl ....

party of tanks on a siege? damn never heard of it :/ , party of daggers ? never heard of that either

do you know what a rush means ? tanks can't make a rush into a castle ... they are slow they will all die and who the fuck has a full party of tanks in 1 ally lol

DD's archers daggers go inside folowed by healers and nukers and invade the castle walls , but it seems you disagree so much ..... my advice to you : never create a clan you'll be a shit leader :)

you got a lot more to learn about this game and that's it , go make more calculations about blow land rate and show ppl how smart you are :)


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SirAdrian wrote:
i'm mostly afk for two weeks or so but i found a question here about DA vs Summoners.
Summoners can kill DA ..good chances.
If DA gets kitty out => betray => more damage against DA and "traitor summons" do damage directly to HP.while 2 summons are attacking the DA just debuff/hope cubics to trigger or whatever.
if DA does NOT get kitty out => attack normally and just run and let your summon damage the DA and hope slow doesn't land.
but that's just oly


nice post , SirAdrian but what do you think about hierophant's chances vs HK in oly ?


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DUDE. What do i say and what do you understand?

I NEVER said aw is imbalanced face to face with the th.

And about sieges, GET THE FUCK OUT! A party of AWs go inside the castle first right? :D Fucking moron. I said GENERALLY SPEAKING: THE SK GOES IN THE AW STAYS OUT. That means A PARTY OF SKs GO IN, while A PARTY OF AWs STAY OUT. OR: A PARTY OF TANKS GET IN and A PARTY OF DDs THAT DIE EASY STAY OUT.

About my calculations? LICK MY ASS CUNT. Without calculations you'd be out there grappling your ass testing and finding out how to increase your blow damage BY YOURSELF; WONDERING WHY MIGHT AND DANCE OF WARRIOR DON'T GIVE EXTRA DAMAGE.

This is the last post in which i explain EVERYTHING to you. Your stupidity is something rare. Next time feel free to think ANYTHING you want, because people won't listen to your bullshit AND I WILL INTEGRATE IN THAT CATEGORY.

We are getting offtopic so
/end thread.


you are making up things to look smarter ? and start to swear ppl when you are not right ....

you proved once again that you never went to a siege over 100 ppl ....

party of tanks on a siege? damn never heard of it :/ , party of daggers ? never heard of that either

do you know what a rush means ? tanks can't make a rush into a castle ... they are slow they will all die and who the fuck has a full party of tanks in 1 ally lol

DD's archers daggers go inside folowed by healers and nukers and invade the castle walls , but it seems you disagree so much ..... my advice to you : never create a clan you'll be a shit leader :)

you got a lot more to learn about this game and that's it , go make more calculations about blow land rate and show ppl how smart you are :)

Jesus man! You really are stupid! It was just a freaking example. :O

I swear? I don't swear unprovoked, boy. Read your post again, and see that you insulted me.
Rush? WHO MENTIONED ABOUT A RUSH? :O

I'm making things up? Ah i see. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example
Repeat after me: EG-ZAM-PEL.

Analysis of the bullshit you just said:
So... Fast dudes go inside the castle quickly right? And where are the tanks? They stay behind? Ah i see, they stay in the front of the castle so that archers can make fun of them. Remember that tanks are faster than mages. The attacking ally don't invade the walls because it's a complete waste. They go in the throne hall and climb up the platforms so anyone that enters is killed because that way, you won't need a target macro anymore. See how you can simplify things? Stop inventing strategies because they suck, and we can tell they're from you.

Too bad dude. Already been co-leader on gamegate and we rised from shit to one of the best clans on the server. Nice times... There was one problem on most of my clans. That's getting good players at the beginning. If you claim to be so good in terms of clans, tell me please how to mentain a clan. A whole guide, like the ones i do for chars.

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pff cmon guys stop..and especially icarus u stop!stop replying noob posts and making of the topix flameboxes!i think u r intelligent enough not to answer him again..
@waza yteye rly right.. u rush the castle with ur archer/daggers ye and they die in 2seconds..gl with ur sieges... even tankers cant stay long...and u talk shi7 about daggers/archers..

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IvoR wrote:
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even with FULL BUFFS TH has lower land rate... do the math now...all blows of the AW get ur ass or 1 of 3 misses ur target(if u r TH) at full buffs AW is best cuz if he has resist shock+mj+con dyes he will not get stunned!and when we look at his blow land rate u should understand that AW rox.... at "endgame" as u love saying...lets say TH eats the dust...the mortal strike+focus death makes the AW stronger
On full buffs all have almost same land rate and TH have like 10k hp and guss what the stuped TH on full buffs have same or even more atk speed then PW now u can think about that.I will cry that i have to agree with Waza but u are rly full retired idiot pking low lvl players on x5 server like dvp with lot's of cp poitons and always full buffed and when some TH or HE on same buff lvl gear come to u and send u in the hell u type n00b.But who is the real n00b?


\ivo stop talking shit nigga..land rate is not same... dont start with ur god-bless-the-humans !! dumbass!!!!!!!!and how do u know how i pvp?! idiot? maybe u talk about ur game exp? hm?! i never use cppots and im sure u both are retarded....THE LAND RATE OF HUMANS SUX!! LAME-CHILD! bleh im tired of noobs like u and im not gona reply u anymore talk what shi7 u want... its ur choice


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pff cmon guys stop..and especially icarus u stop!stop replying noob posts and making of the topix flameboxes!i think u r intelligent enough not to answer him again..
@waza yteye rly right.. u rush the castle with ur archer/daggers ye and they die in 2seconds..gl with ur sieges... even tankers cant stay long...and u talk shi7 about daggers/archers..

btw congratz-1k+posts:P~

Ty for reinforcing my will not to explain anything to him again.

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even with FULL BUFFS TH has lower land rate... do the math now...all blows of the AW get ur ass or 1 of 3 misses ur target(if u r TH) at full buffs AW is best cuz if he has resist shock+mj+con dyes he will not get stunned!and when we look at his blow land rate u should understand that AW rox.... at "endgame" as u love saying...lets say TH eats the dust...the mortal strike+focus death makes the AW stronger
On full buffs all have almost same land rate and TH have like 10k hp and guss what the stuped TH on full buffs have same or even more atk speed then PW now u can think about that.I will cry that i have to agree with Waza but u are rly full retired idiot pking low lvl players on x5 server like dvp with lot's of cp poitons and always full buffed and when some TH or HE on same buff lvl gear come to u and send u in the hell u type n00b.But who is the real n00b?


\ivo stop talking shit nigga..land rate is not same... dont start with ur god-bless-the-humans !! dumbass!!!!!!!!and how do u know how i pvp?! idiot? maybe u talk about ur game exp? hm?! i never use cppots and im sure u both are retarded....THE LAND RATE OF HUMANS SUX!! LAME-CHILD! bleh im tired of noobs like u and im not gona reply u anymore talk what shi7 u want... its ur choice
/retired i can say that i will give u 1k $ if u kill Max lvl TH on full buff with PW or AW on off or l2j server


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Watch what you're saying, you can be proven wrong. Who the hell said that th full buffed is so great?
If he does critical blow, you do blinding blow and run from him. Tic tac, after 10 seconds he won't have any critical blow on, and his shitty blow land rate will fill him. Just hex and finish, clean fight.

Remember that you don't need to get on him and fight to the death. Having low hp means to rely on tricks sometimes.

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IvoR wrote:
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even with FULL BUFFS TH has lower land rate... do the math now...all blows of the AW get ur ass or 1 of 3 misses ur target(if u r TH) at full buffs AW is best cuz if he has resist shock+mj+con dyes he will not get stunned!and when we look at his blow land rate u should understand that AW rox.... at "endgame" as u love saying...lets say TH eats the dust...the mortal strike+focus death makes the AW stronger
On full buffs all have almost same land rate and TH have like 10k hp and guss what the stuped TH on full buffs have same or even more atk speed then PW now u can think about that.I will cry that i have to agree with Waza but u are rly full retired idiot pking low lvl players on x5 server like dvp with lot's of cp poitons and always full buffed and when some TH or HE on same buff lvl gear come to u and send u in the hell u type n00b.But who is the real n00b?


\ivo stop talking shit nigga..land rate is not same... dont start with ur god-bless-the-humans !! dumbass!!!!!!!!and how do u know how i pvp?! idiot? maybe u talk about ur game exp? hm?! i never use cppots and im sure u both are retarded....THE LAND RATE OF HUMANS SUX!! LAME-CHILD! bleh im tired of noobs like u and im not gona reply u anymore talk what shi7 u want... its ur choice
/retired i can say that i will give u 1k $ if u kill Max lvl TH on full buff with PW or AW on off or l2j server


no more replys to u nabzorg.. go play ur LOL-L2J servers...i sayd all i had in my previous posts man...as icarus sayd u love ur 10 seconds fame!and i blinding blow and run away + u r proly freezed so even ur dash wont help ya.. use ur brains


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