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 Post subject: Re: Gracia Final Dagger
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:43 am 
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Will you stop chickfighting in non-finished topics please? Thank you.

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What off platform you dog? Off platform hasn't been a thing in years this game is only playable using Java and if you believe otherwise you're too stupid because every server you played has been Java

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 Post subject: Re: Gracia Final Dagger
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:13 am 
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7r0yan wrote:
BigLoL wrote:
7r0yan wrote:
gtfo, k? it was mistype, i wanted to say PS bcoz of its imba nuke, that can outdmg even sh with vortex+crusher, soz
const pts are fucking shit btw,for lol ppl who cant manage to play with one friend or alone

OT: in normal pvp id go for gh



after this sentences u should stop giving advices to any1

u should stop after ur first post ;f
or second, if first was "hallo"


yes bcuz i write a lot of bullshits bcuz admin told me something on l2j works retail like :D
u still believe u play l2?


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 Post subject: Re: Gracia Final Dagger
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:39 pm 
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Can i ask on wut servers you were playing? only on retail? if not ur a hypocrite

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<3 clueless ppl.Check again smartass.Str does not pattk.



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 Post subject: Re: Gracia Final Dagger
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:46 pm 
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7r0yan wrote:
Can i ask on wut servers you were playing? only on retail? if not ur a hypocrite

he has never played retail....


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:09 pm 
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Ye i know but i want to catch him with lie ;]

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<3 clueless ppl.Check again smartass.Str does not pattk.



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 Post subject: Re: Gracia Final Dagger
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Go for aw all the way dude..1-shooting mages is sth everybody loves.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:26 pm 
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Ty for all your answers.

BTW guys, witch is the better mage? I really like necro but some ppl say that SH's are now overpowered in gracia final, is that truth?

Thanks


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:31 pm 
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SH allllll the way, necro is worse now since debuffs landrate if fucked and hes forced to use dark attribute which if also fucked up ;]
sps is nerfed rly much too,
IMO
SH>>>>>>>Sorc>necro>sps

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:36 pm 
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BigLoL wrote:
7r0yan wrote:
destro/tyrant/ES/sh/sph/berserker/pala are better in pvp ;]


if not some other classes mentioned by u, i would think its a sarcasm....

how do u think, why people dont want summoners in their const parties?
es fits only to mage pt but his damage output is too low to do something in pvp and thats why people exclude him in the very beggining, mostly people take es to get uncontested hero or with very low competition. tbh only noobs take es into their constant parties or in very rare cases a friend who simply likes to play that char...
its pve support, not pvp character
@amaruu
both aw and pw are imba for pvp and 1 stab most of enemies


everyone got his opinion, troyan is an es fanboy, it doesn't mean es sucks, it rocks hard and not only in mage pts
it's still a summoner and the seraphim is not a mage-only buffer, it's a nice addition for long-term pve parties
and don't tell me that the 79 summon's stun and nuke is "low damage outpot"
in mass pvps u can feel just right enough pain to lick the floor sometimes

aws and pws don't one-stab anything, there's no "one-stabbing" at all, only on some newbie robe-users or ppl who don't rly know what attribute means and pw is still not that über, aw owns it

anw ontopic, [which is already offtopic]
sh, sps is nerfed, sorc is just ok but weak, necro sucks end-game


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:43 am 
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Sh or sps although i prefer the first one.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:22 pm 
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how could such a stronguer char as Necro become so bad? :x

I really loved necro on C5 =(

BTW, a little bit more of off-topic, why everyone says that archers suck in Gracia Final? :x

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:32 pm 
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amaruu wrote:
how could such a stronguer char as Necro become so bad? :x

I really loved necro on C5 =(

BTW, a little bit more of off-topic, why everyone says that archers suck in Gracia Final? :x

ty


most of parties in GF are melee parties and they have very huge advantage over archers

but still well organized arhcer pt is a disaster for mages - prannah +15 time ftw


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:36 pm 
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prahnah*

and necro was lame char ;f

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:16 pm 
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prahnah?

Necro lamme char? Wo0't!?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:19 pm 
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amaruu wrote:
prahnah?
Increases the M. Def. of all party members by 3000 for 30 seconds.
at +15 it's 60 seconds


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