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 Post subject: SPS OLY
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:33 pm 
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how shoud i play sps on oly .i try fear > for 10 sec i pawn light armor,nukers(tanks,heavy armor dont die and i am dead..)give me some ideas how to play with sps on oly.pls help


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:44 pm 
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use cancelation and every time when you can press aura flash


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:49 pm 
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I'm afraid you can't do much against tanks... they have good M. Def...
But I can always be wrong because I never played on SPS...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:56 pm 
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1. sps VS light users

A. sps vs daggers

daggers are sometimes hard classes to beat with nuker just bcoz they can even 1 shoot u (obviously u have low pdef)
at beginning, if they see u using enlightenment (if u have learned that 81 lvl skill) they will mostly use hide and stay in hide until ur enlightenment disappears .. so dont use it and start the fight from maximum range with simple nukes .. why simple nuke and not vortex ? bcoz they will clearly use switch/trick/shadow step aka derangement skills to interrupt ur cast .. just start with simple nukes and ALWAYS keep the mouse cursor on him .. ok so he is going to use shadow step .. the only thing u can do here is to spam aura flash/diamond dust (AoE skills) .. the first one is for dmg+detarget while the 2nd one is for dmg+slow speed .. then use enlightenment, target him, use vortex+slug .. after this combo his hp should be below 75% so he is going to use hide .. if u see him using hide, spam AoE skills fast so his hide will be canceled and with enlightenment ON, u will make rly nice dmg with these skills .. just remember, always keep ur mouse cursor on him bcoz of switch/trick/mirage ..

B.sps vs archers

enlightenment>vortex+slug = dead .. if its not dead already, 1 more hydro would be enough

C.sps vs tyrants

i would advice u to NOT use enlightenment from beginning bcoz he is going to use barrier .. when u see him using any other skill AFTER he used barrier or if he starts hitting u, use enlightenment > vortex+slug and start kitting him .. using various skills like blizzard or fb is useless bcoz tyrant makes great dmg with his range skills so slowing him wont help u very much .. use anything u can to avoid his stun (castle circlet for shock immunity, stun resist jws etc) .. many ppl would say to not use slug after vortex bcoz ice vortex is a great debuff and using slug would blow the vortex .. but this is a failed tactic imo u prolly wont be alive to use slug some seconds later .. dont forget that sps has the highest chance to do magical critical hit

D.sps vs doombringer

against berserkers, just try to fear him .. will be hard bcoz he will use disarm which has a great land rate .. if it lands u are dead ) .. also, berserkers have some kind of skill which gives em +100% mdef or smth like that so try to fear him at beginning, this is pretty much the only chance for u bcoz as i already said disarm has a great chance to succeed and kitting a dude with 2,5k+ mdef rly sux .. anyway, if ur fear doesnt land and his disarm doesnt land, use enlightenment and same combo vortex+slug followed by hydro blasts .. using blizz/fb will be useless since they have that rush shit with range .. again, use any advantage u can to avoid his stun and pray for some magical critical hits

E.sps vs soulhounds

dont use enlightenment from beginning .. soulhounds are usually starting the fight with steal divinity so after he steals some of ur buffs, use enlightenment and start using vortex+slug+hydro blast .. in this way ur enlightenment wont be stolen .. also, soulhounds have that paralysis shit so use anything u can to avoid para (tw jws, maybe dc robe set but u will be crushed by his dmg since u wont be able to put attributes)

2.sps vs robe users

A.sps vs nukers

use enlightenment from beginning and maybe u should start the fight w/o using vortex+slug bcoz u have the highest cast speed so with fast hydro blasts u will interrupt the other nuker's vortex .. anyway, a nuker vs nuker match lasts less than 10 seconds if both of u have enlightenment ..

B.sps vs healers

enlightenment > vortex+slug > nuke nuke nuke and pray for magic crit hit
note that healers have turn to stone so if they see u using enlightenment they will prolly turn to stone for 8 seconds .. anyway, if u dont hit him at beginning with insane cast speed, u are pretty much dead (sleep+magical backfire+burn mp+sleep etc)
maybe u should use some sleep resist jws or maybe arcane wisdom +sleep resist but will be hard against trance ++chance

C.sps vs enchanters

imo start the fight with simple nukes, bcoz they will turn to stone for sure if they see u using enlightenment at beginning .. after 2-3 nukes, use enlightenment and vortex+slug as fast as possible so u can avoid his turning to stone .. if ur vortex+slug succeed but he still used turn to stone, w8 some seconds for turn to stone to worn off and start hitting him with hydro blasts if ur vortex is not rdy yet .. vs wc should be an easy fight but ol has got some rly nice debuffs and if he manage to land all those debuffs, will be rly hard imo .. unless u are overequipped, in this case u can treat him like a lolwc and the fight will end in some seconds ..
same tactic against pp

D.sps vs summoners

start with enlightenment and start hitting the summoner, not the pet bcoz he will prolly use cele for pet at beginning .. if u can manage to kill him before pet's cele worn off, its good but i doubt that since the pet can get even 60% of the summoner's received dmg (60% if transfer pain is enchanted, 50% if not) .. anyway if he is not dead yet and if YOU are not dead again (pets can have insanely stats) try to kill the pet, dont forget, u still have some seconds of enlightenment .. maybe if the summoner sees ur dps with enlightenment, he will use pet ud which makes the pet unable to move .. take some range and kill the summoner .. vs es will be much harder since the pony has hydro blast with great range which makes HUGE dmg (5k+ matk)

3.sps vs heavy users

A.sps vs titan

a common titan will start the fight with pre-frenzy so u should use enlightenment from beginning and vortex+slug+nuke .. use blizz/fb if u have enough time but i doubt .. anyway, u must avoid the short range in 2 ways: 1.kill him (good gear and some magic crit would help a lot) before he reach shorter range to u ; 2.try to fear him but i doubt that this will work

B.sps vs duelist

even if duelists have barrier, u cant risk .. use enlightenment and if u see him using barrier, just let him to make the 1st move .. if not, vortex+slug+nuke nuke nuke .. he makes great dmg with his range skills but if u see him coming closer use aoe skills especially aura flash to detarget him and to avoid his tss/disarm .. btw if disarm (which has more than 90% land rate) lands u are dead .. in case that disarm landed ur only chance would be fear but will be annoying to cast the skill with no weapon > such a small cast speed ..

C.sps vs tanks

u cant beat pro tanks .. dont use enlightenment from beginning, they will use anti-magic armor which means a lot of mdef .. waste of enlightenment .. their speed is not lower than urs so use aura flash+diamond dust and then blizz/fb to decrease his speed .. try to run as much as possible in this time and dont use enlightenment even if his anti-magic armor worn off .. he will use deflect magic .. it sounds impossible and it rly is but try to run as much as possible bcoz if u try to hit him, ur nukes will get reflected back to u so its not good .. deflect magic lasts 8 seconds but in 8 seconds u might be dead bcoz a good geared tank means 100% stun .. anyway, use enlightenment, vortex+aoe skills+blizz/fb (anything u can to slow him), take some range and use slug+nuke nuke nuke .. some lucky fear would help a lot but as i already said, its impossible to win vs good tanks, their crits are very powerful .. use anything u can to avoid the almighty stun, if u have dyna wizard switch to MA set which gives +50% stun resist (ofc if u have attributes) ..
if u fight against PK/HK u must do anything u can to kill their pets first

D.sps vs warlord

use enlightenment from beginning, use anything u can to prevent stun .. vortex+aoe skills if he is closer, +blizz/fb and start kitting him (dont forget to use ur slug when u get some range) .. wont be so easy bcoz he has those range dmg+stun skills but at least u can try to see how its going ..

E.sps vs bd/sws

enlightenment > vortex+slug+nuke, maybe some extra blizz/fb

F.sps vs dorfs

use enlightenment from beginning, vortex+slug .. if his hp is below 60%, use 2-3 more nukes to kill him, if not, use aoe skills+blizz/fb to slow him and start kitting him .. if u fight against maestro, kill his mechanical shit first .. use anything u can to avoid stun ..

this guide sounds pretty simple and reading it, u might feel like u can beat em all but its not like that .. practice is much harder than all these theories

NOTE: in all the short ranged fights, u can use arcane chaos+cancellation and dont forget to turn on ur arcane power almost all the time

NOTE2: talismans are very useful at oly, get some as soon as possible (lifeforce, wm, ud, maybe some steal divinity etc)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:57 pm 
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cancel, enli, vortex, crusher and hydro if enemy is still alive....


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:32 pm 
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and how sps should fight against necro in ally he silence and i am done


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:58 pm 
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BEKC wrote:
and how sps should fight against necro in ally he silence and i am done


if silence lands u can use talisman to break the silence but u prolly wont have enough time
u have 2 options to kill necro:
1.if u have enlightenment, turn it on, kill the pet (1 hit is enough) and then switch the target on necro and use vortex+slug+nukes as fast as possible ..
2.use enlightenment and skip the pet, hit the necro from beginning .. in this case u need rly good gear bcoz u will make 1/2 dmg to necro bcoz of transfer pain

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:14 pm 
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Xmvp wrote:
BEKC wrote:
and how sps should fight against necro in ally he silence and i am done


if silence lands u can use talisman to break the silence but u prolly wont have enough time
u have 2 options to kill necro:
1.if u have enlightenment, turn it on, kill the pet (1 hit is enough) and then switch the target on necro and use vortex+slug+nukes as fast as possible ..
2.use enlightenment and skip the pet, hit the necro from beginning .. in this case u need rly good gear bcoz u will make 1/2 dmg to necro bcoz of transfer pain

only tards brakes wortex after he just used it

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:29 pm 
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guzeris wrote:
Xmvp wrote:
BEKC wrote:
and how sps should fight against necro in ally he silence and i am done


if silence lands u can use talisman to break the silence but u prolly wont have enough time
u have 2 options to kill necro:
1.if u have enlightenment, turn it on, kill the pet (1 hit is enough) and then switch the target on necro and use vortex+slug+nukes as fast as possible ..
2.use enlightenment and skip the pet, hit the necro from beginning .. in this case u need rly good gear bcoz u will make 1/2 dmg to necro bcoz of transfer pain

only tards brakes wortex after he just used it


nuker vs nuker is all about dps
and ice vortex is not an anti-mage vortex, it decreases ur opponent's cast speed with 10% (wind vortex is more like an anti-mage vortex, -30% cast speed)
also magic crit slug= end of fight

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:37 pm 
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at oly from a sps crushers m crit is end of a fight, mm kay what jewels u use tts +3?:DD

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:49 pm 
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an over-equipped sps doesnt have more than ~5,5k hp at oly with +4 con dyes, necro has a little bit more while sph has less than both
normal dmg from ice vortex ~2k dmg while normal slug +15 water atk ~3k dmg against good equipped enemy (nuker)
mc slug from sps/sph = gameover unless ur opponent is a transfer pain user (necro/summoner)
ofc sph's mc slug does much bigger dmg than sps's and it might be enough to kill even a necro in tp, dunno for sure

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:51 pm 
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Xmvp wrote:
an over-equipped sps doesnt have more than ~5,5k hp at oly with +4 con dyes, necro has a little bit more while sph has less than both
normal dmg from ice vortex ~2k dmg while normal slug +15 water atk ~3k dmg against good equipped enemy (nuker)
mc slug from sps/sph = gameover unless ur opponent is a transfer pain user (necro/summoner)
ofc sph's mc slug does much bigger dmg than sps's and it might be enough to kill even a necro in tp, dunno for sure

I LOLD

only fcking retard newby nuker would enchant nukes for elemental atribute , i LOLD agen soz.

btw u shuld read what new chronicles has to offer for jewels tts is like c gr at c4 :>


and btw did i told that I LOLD. pls stop posting about nukers coz u clearly knowshit when u siad that u would enchant nukes for element

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:56 pm 
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+1 to Xmvp for extensive guide, but rather don't enchant skills on water attribute and nuke some blasts before you slag 'em all :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:02 pm 
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guzeris i never said that u should enchant ur nukes on +attribute, just the slug/crusher and vortex +chance
for normal nukes +power all the way

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:02 pm 
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BEKC wrote:
and how sps should fight against necro in ally he silence and i am done


if u go to oly as sps and u want to win wisdom+15 power for mental attacks, valakas, antharas and zaken r a must
if u go oly w/o them just make ur 9 fights and stop or organize feeding


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