thats why i asked for his downtime. he suppose to heave lower downtime then rest, cuz of ighest men, but hes skills use a lot of mana. soo... could some1 tell what is hes downtime comparing to necro?

necro have body to mind , thats why necro "dont" have downtime

he 'dont' have downtime maybe cuz hes skills cost less mana.

atlant, ur playing ol, right? how many mobs u can kill with full mana? ;]

on exping/farming use fits/duals (depends of your lvl and te lvl of mobs ) , your full mana goes out with around 20 drains ... btw ol have arcana power , he dont have arcane wisdom like buffers

Well, an ol goes melee and buffs himself. He has very good buffs. He will be invited to clan/ally parties, which facilitates his xp rate. He really saves mana when it comes to masses. He is a great assistant for farming or mass pvp and raid.

nah, i think that ill go for gladi. im mostly solo player/pk. maybe if i had some ee bi*ch...

Bring me a Duelist to pvp with my Dominator, same lvl, Duelist has...
NOT A CHANCE!

Actualy OL buffs are not used in mass pvp or raid... for example on raid OL buffs only m.def,p.def,ww (acumen,zerk - are not needed by fighters so useless for mass; might - useless for mages so again no mass; evasion,shield def rate buff - useless for all ) mass pvp same thing OL only buffs 3 buffs remember it - p/mdef buff, ww. In pvp u waste mana only for Cp spam nothing else, not even curses ( unless u are in danger ) Nobody likes Ol buffs maybe only mages ( thats a biig maybe )

@paagRIO
ok first of all ol buffs are very important and everyone needs them.he is the only buffer that has acumen zerk and empower.
and he has vop for fighters.

@Vincent
you won't last at all against a duelist 79 lvl even if you are 79 and you have blockade.and btw at c1.5 duelist will get weapon bloackde.it's the same as domis but only for one target.

and ofc you can compare these classes.actually maybe they are the only two classes that are completely different and yet you can compare them (at choosing for pvp class).
they both get similar skills used in pvp.

i mean invincibility,blockade etc.
they are both chars with extreme p.def and good p.atck.

but in pvp with full buffs ol can't beat anyone.unless you get to 79 which if you are not in a high rate server is very difficult,you stand no chance.even if you keep spamming your steal essence you won't regen any hp since you can't get the other guys cp down (cp pots).

ol is a buffer and support class.
so in mass pvp you are very usefull.cp heal is the reason.so if it is enough for you to cp heal your party (which i don't find boring at all) then choose ol.oh and btw you can still farm at oly even if you can't pvp that well outside.

now about duelist.well.. he is THE killing machine.i think he is the most unbalanced char of this game.and each time they give him more power.
as i said invincibility dash blockade
skills to resist almost everything and extemely strong skills that crit often.
he has tons of hp cp and duals give him even more.

so if you want to become a pvp legend duelist is the way to kill people.

i tryed ol and glad
ol: nice skills and buff, but w8... wtf?! i buff and im almost out of mana [least for few drains].
glad: he got mana problem too. and chargeing. he is a killing machine doule slash+ triple slash+multi sth. charge again. enemis r dead. but u can rly go and pwn every one. anyway, it doesn't matter ;p
im playing eve-online atm. ;] [this mmo is fucking great!]

lol no!! return to l2.eve sux :p
anyway although it's not nessecary to you any more i will post two vids.not mine but from my server (official server of lionna).
they are both completely representative for each class.if you need to see how to play do what they do.

gladi:
http://www.livepvp.com/index.php?p=view ... ileid=1819
ol:
http://www.livepvp.com/index.php?p=view ... ileid=1916

well let me rephrase it,
lol no!!return to l2. eve-online sux :p
better?

pff IMO in open field with full buffs ol doesnt have a chance but in oly..NO WAY TO GET PAWNED BY GLADI!!he has his buffs he has his toggle he has his curses/drains he is just powerfull...the glad without buffs is just...lets say another DD without buffs(but since he can choose 5 buffs..hmm dono i think chances are not big..) he has 2 options to use heavy and run out of mp in 2 sec and game over or use robe(its possible!!) and have lower stats(masteryes ftw!)
in mass pvp same ol->mass buffs/curses/cp recovery/high def

eve is great, unlucky i had to guit :(
don't say that eve sucks before u rly play it! download it and play like three days, and then go get those 20month and enjoy ;]
godsend: hmm... im not sure, but when i was playing gladi on high rate, i thnik that he had some toggles to, and stances, and he can pwn ol in oly.
i was fighting ol. both 80lvl with s-g +tateo. i won. sonic move+double+triple+multi so long as he was dead. with all toggles and stances all+ all gladi buffs [there was self buff only+atack pot and haste pot].
i admite, that i would be chance less is he'll rote me.

Guys im talking ONLY for pvp with self buffs! Many full-buffed chars can beat OL. BUT don't forget that he is a support/buffer!