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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:57 am 
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Thansk to all for answering.
I got 1 question. For PS, wind shackle + phantom cubic curse stack in enemy ? I saw that wind shackle decreasses enemy atk speed effect 3, if haste is efect 2 , that means it's nearly the same as warrior bane without blocking enemy speed,and if phantom cubic effect stacks, that means it's almost equal to warrior bane, but you don't even need to be 3rd class, so not so unbalanced at all. I also saw that you have might lvl 3 for servitor, and WK doesn't have it, so not bad at all, and you still have mage bane. And dont forget of surrender to poison that WK lacks of it.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:17 am 
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First of all. The Decrease Atk Spd that Phantom Cubic do is the same as Wind Schakle, well, IS a wind shackle (so, u have to ways to try to decrease enemy's atk spd) so they don't stack. Surrender to Poison will NEVER LAND, as u got it in lvl 35, but is a nice way to pull mobs in cata/necro, as it have 750 range.
Spark Cubic land more than Binding, and the fire spd are short.
I tried with a friend of mine (Necromancer 79), he was with DC Robe, 1k of M Def and Resist Stun lvl 4. The cubic land 3 times in-a-row as Phantom Cubic lands Hex too (It's very easy).

To cubics attack u only need to stay in fight mode, just do 1 hit in mob, and wait, or act as a DD (in PvE sounds good, PvP sometimes).

Spark Cubic has 80% base land rate. And is the ONLY Magic Stun, so it afect by M Def and CON (not MEN), and the cubic has 1974 of M Atk at lvl 72 (The last lvl u get it). Stun very easy.

Everyone says that the Def and Life of a PS is crap, but the difference between PS and Warlock is not higher than 100 cp and 50 hp.
MJ Light to get P Def and Stun Resist (u rlly need it).
For Dyes I use -9 INT +5 WIT +4 MEN (But in PvP is way better to use the third slot in +CON -STR)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:09 am 
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Ye i got a question too.. Does phantom cubics debuffs stack, like -p atk and hex? And i have noticed that spark cubic doesnt remove sleep (cuz it doesnt do any dmg). Should it be like that? And one more thing. Why did ncsoft gave might lvl 1+ to ALL low lvl mages (exept orcs), and didnt gawe at least ww1 instead? Cuz like wk.. He can use might on his summon and have ww2, but ps doesnt have ww2, but instead he has 1lvl might and mighty servitor >.< . Ye, ncsoft lowes humans.. Ewen created a whole island for them.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:23 am 
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sami wrote:
Ye i got a question too.. Does phantom cubics debuffs stack, like -p atk and hex? And i have noticed that spark cubic doesnt remove sleep (cuz it doesnt do any dmg). Should it be like that? And one more thing. Why did ncsoft gave might lvl 1+ to ALL low lvl mages (exept orcs), and didnt gawe at least ww1 instead? Cuz like wk.. He can use might on his summon and have ww2, but ps doesnt have ww2, but instead he has 1lvl might and mighty servitor >.< . Ye, ncsoft lowes humans.. Ewen created a whole island for them.


All Debuffs of Phantom Cubic is like the rest of debuffs. -P Def IS Hex, -p Atk IS Power Break, and - Atk Spd IS Wind Shackle.
Spark Cubic doesn't awake anyone, don't give dmg.

And even with ww2 and Might 1, I think PS is a lot betther than WL.

And yes, NCSoft LOVE HUMANS. But we have to think, they won the race for world.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:21 am 
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Mmm thanks for answering dude, i dont know if it's server bug, but are u sure stats for summons are all the same ?? i mean, feline cat ( the last one of 3rd class wk ) and Spectral ( the last of 3rd class PS ) have same patafck,atk speed, crit, speed , mdef, matack etc... ?? thxn again :=)


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Anima wrote:
Mmm thanks for answering dude, i dont know if it's server bug, but are u sure stats for summons are all the same ?? i mean, feline cat ( the last one of 3rd class wk ) and Spectral ( the last of 3rd class PS ) have same patafck,atk speed, crit, speed , mdef, matack etc... ?? thxn again :=)


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Servitor Spectral Lord
Summoner Lv 79+
Lv 80
HP 5461 MP 2143
P.Atk. 3348 M.Atk. 2005
P.Def. 604 M.Def. 765
Accuracy 121 Evasion 112
Critical 50 Speed 158
Atk. Spd. 444 Casting Spd. 399

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Servitor Feline King
Summoner Lv 79+
Lv 80
HP 5461 MP 2143
P.Atk. 3144 M.Atk. 2005
P.Def. 604 M.Def. 765
Accuracy 121 Evasion 112
Critical 50 Speed 191
Atk. Spd. 444 Casting Spd. 399


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http://l2calc.l2blah.com/summoncalc.html


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:41 am 
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thank's you man. Would you mind to explain me the skills from PS summons and WK summons and compare them ??? thx :)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:54 pm 
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Sry for double posting, but if i take down my INT so much, my m.atack goes down and then i dont land debuffs, true?


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It's true, i'd advice you to stick to -5 int not more. Your debuffs are worth it.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:01 am 
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Anima wrote:
thank's you man. Would you mind to explain me the skills from PS summons and WK summons and compare them ??? thx :)


I can't remember right, but I think...

Spectral Lord has:
Poison Smoke OR Corpse Burst (Just like the Soulless Skills)
Slash (A force hit in one target)
Spinning Blade (Like slash, but more weak, and are a AoE attack, near the Spectral Lord)

Feline King has:
Slash (A force hit in one target)
Grip of The Cat (A Mass root, like Mass Shackle of Paladins)
And a nother that I don't remember, but I think is a AoE like Spinning Blade


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:36 pm 
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if betray land on you summon he will have problems witch catch you and then you can run from your summon and try to put betray on cat :) and then still run for your summon and look how cat is hitting WK couse of WW :P PS rulez couse of cubics and greates summon i dont play against ES but i can say that WK are no problem for my Spectral Master 78 lvl


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Anima wrote:
Mmm thanks for answering dude, i dont know if it's server bug, but are u sure stats for summons are all the same ?? i mean, feline cat ( the last one of 3rd class wk ) and Spectral ( the last of 3rd class PS ) have same patafck,atk speed, crit, speed , mdef, matack etc... ?? thxn again :=)


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Servitor Spectral Lord
Summoner Lv 79+
Lv 80
HP 5461 MP 2143
P.Atk. 3348 M.Atk. 2005
P.Def. 604 M.Def. 765
Accuracy 121 Evasion 112
Critical 50 Speed 158
Atk. Spd. 444 Casting Spd. 399

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Servitor Feline King
Summoner Lv 79+
Lv 80
HP 5461 MP 2143
P.Atk. 3144 M.Atk. 2005
P.Def. 604 M.Def. 765
Accuracy 121 Evasion 112
Critical 50 Speed 191
Atk. Spd. 444 Casting Spd. 399


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http://l2calc.l2blah.com/summoncalc.html


this site is sucks its dont show real true from game!! dont believe stats on this stats some are true but most of them are bullshit!! I check it


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:03 pm 
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thats because you played on private servers that sometimes alter the stats for " balancing " ( not )
as far as i know all DE are more of attak type guys with a little of agile atributes
while humans are avarage in all atributes ( atk def hp etc )


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:32 pm 
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A little agile? They're the second agile after the elves, at a SLIGHT difference (1 dex). All dark elves are attack oriented. Humans aren't balanced, humans have low damage output. They're tank-types.

Depends on skills too: all elves tend to be tanks and lurers, while dark elves have a balance between attack and defence, with an emphasis on attack. Humans are just lazy. They rely on passives.

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Anima wrote:
Mmm thanks for answering dude, i dont know if it's server bug, but are u sure stats for summons are all the same ?? i mean, feline cat ( the last one of 3rd class wk ) and Spectral ( the last of 3rd class PS ) have same patafck,atk speed, crit, speed , mdef, matack etc... ?? thxn again :=)


Quote:
Servitor Spectral Lord
Summoner Lv 79+
Lv 80
HP 5461 MP 2143
P.Atk. 3348 M.Atk. 2005
P.Def. 604 M.Def. 765
Accuracy 121 Evasion 112
Critical 50 Speed 158
Atk. Spd. 444 Casting Spd. 399

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Servitor Feline King
Summoner Lv 79+
Lv 80
HP 5461 MP 2143
P.Atk. 3144 M.Atk. 2005
P.Def. 604 M.Def. 765
Accuracy 121 Evasion 112
Critical 50 Speed 191
Atk. Spd. 444 Casting Spd. 399


Buffed by their own masters

http://l2calc.l2blah.com/summoncalc.html


this site is sucks its dont show real true from game!! dont believe stats on this stats some are true but most of them are bullshit!! I check it



You're talking bullshit here man. U play in bugged serves that make ur summons get more than 1k of P def.
This is RETAIL INFORMATION! The Oficial servers. Summons are as they are showed in the website.


@Icarus.
May be good use -6 Int +3 Wit +3 Men.
Men is rlly good, looks not, but it's rlly useful against curses, a liitle M Def boost that helps, and it's very good at PvE :D


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