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 Post subject: Necro or Sr
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:25 am 
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Is a buffed necro wit fulled buffed summon better than buffed SR in pvp?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:23 am 
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Fullbuffed SR?! u know what is it?! its killing machine man!!! ODC SR is much better and he will win vs necro but he needs normal juve


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:39 am 
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SR doesnt need normal jewels - he needs top jewels in order to beat the necromancer with summon + transfer pain


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:08 pm 
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At full buffed state the SR proly wont have any chance to kill the necro. Stun wont land and the boost of bow range after 3rd prof also won help him. The cast of the necro will be pretty high so no chance for interuption of the spell. Necro will win with same grade of gear, exp, connection :)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:54 pm 
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/agree

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:15 pm 
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Let's compare:
Buffs = 78 hierophant + dances + songs + emp for necro and prophecy of wind for SR.

1st SR:
with MJ set +3 +, draco bow +4 SA focus and TTS set +4
DYE: -4con +4str, -4con +4dex (usualy ppl use this setup):

HP 5449
MP 3030
P.Atk. 3365
P.Def. 985
Accuracy 124
Critical 448
Atk. Spd. 836
CP 1552
M.Atk. 355
M.Def. 1118
Evasion 130
Speed 222
Casting Spd. 350
Now necro + summon:

Cursed Man:
Lv 76
HP 10929
P.Atk. 3529
P.Def. 845
Accuracy 125
Critical 200
Atk. Spd. 551
MP 2662
M.Atk. 1152
M.Def. 707
Evasion 104
Speed 199
Casting Spd. 467

Soultaker with AM +4 SA Acu, TTS +4, DC robe +3
DYE: +4con -4str, +4int +4wit -8men:

HP 5784
MP 3918
P.Atk. 482
P.Def. 863
Accuracy 118
Critical 92
Atk. Spd. 632
CP 1648
M.Atk. 2759 (3557 with arcane power)
M.Def. 1261
Evasion 96
Speed 189
Casting Spd. 1184

I wondering how SR gonna kill him :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:16 pm 
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i compared Sr VS necro not SR vs necro & summon :) but if necrro without summon he will die easly :)


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:03 pm 
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Powah wrote:
Let's compare:
Buffs = 78 hierophant + dances + songs + emp for necro and prophecy of wind for SR.

1st SR:
with MJ set +3 +, draco bow +4 SA focus and TTS set +4
DYE: -4con +4str, -4con +4dex (usualy ppl use this setup):

HP 5449
MP 3030
P.Atk. 3365
P.Def. 985
Accuracy 124
Critical 448
Atk. Spd. 836
CP 1552
M.Atk. 355
M.Def. 1118
Evasion 130
Speed 222
Casting Spd. 350
Now necro + summon:

Cursed Man:
Lv 76
HP 10929
P.Atk. 3529
P.Def. 845
Accuracy 125
Critical 200
Atk. Spd. 551
MP 2662
M.Atk. 1152
M.Def. 707
Evasion 104
Speed 199
Casting Spd. 467

Soultaker with AM +4 SA Acu, TTS +4, DC robe +3
DYE: +4con -4str, +4int +4wit -8men:

HP 5784
MP 3918
P.Atk. 482
P.Def. 863
Accuracy 118
Critical 92
Atk. Spd. 632
CP 1648
M.Atk. 2759 (3557 with arcane power)
M.Def. 1261
Evasion 96
Speed 189
Casting Spd. 1184

I wondering how SR gonna kill him :roll:

LOOL MAN -8 con on sr. Leave the sr as it is. See that attack speed? Do you REALLY think that the necro can withstand such a rain of arrows of 3.3k patk each? Do you think he will withstand that attack speed with 50% critical rate? No. His transfer pain will only help him a bit. The summon dies by 2 hits anyway.

And by the way, the fight isn't balanced. Give the sr cov not powind. your necro has cov too. And that summon is fully buffed. Don't make it irrelevant okay? Fully buffed summon? Lol man, do you think you can get that on decent servers? I don't think so.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:53 pm 
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/agree


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:32 am 
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it's hard to say if a necro can beat the sr or if sr will own necro.
- the attacker will have 70% to win
- if necro land anchor, sr is dead
- if sr land stun shot, necro is dead.

if sr attack 1st, his range will help alot and sr will have time to shot 2 or 3 arrows before necro will be at range.
If necro attack 1st, he will hit sr 2-3 times before the 1st arrow (cause of casting speed).

Who ownz who thread is always like that.
Most of time, attackers wins cause they hit 1st.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:50 am 
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lightoflife wrote:
it's hard to say if a necro can beat the sr or if sr will own necro.
- the attacker will have 70% to win
- if necro land anchor, sr is dead
- if sr land stun shot, necro is dead.

if sr attack 1st, his range will help alot and sr will have time to shot 2 or 3 arrows before necro will be at range.
If necro attack 1st, he will hit sr 2-3 times before the 1st arrow (cause of casting speed).

Who ownz who thread is always like that.
Most of time, attackers wins cause they hit 1st.


if the SR doesnt have tateosian jwls+3 , he wont even take the CP points out of the necro trust me on that


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:06 pm 
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LOOL MAN -8 con on sr. Leave the sr as it is. See that attack speed? Do you REALLY think that the necro can withstand such a rain of arrows of 3.3k patk each? Do you think he will withstand that attack speed with 50% critical rate? No. His transfer pain will only help him a bit. The summon dies by 2 hits anyway.

And by the way, the fight isn't balanced. Give the sr cov not powind. your necro has cov too. And that summon is fully buffed. Don't make it irrelevant okay? Fully buffed summon? Lol man, do you think you can get that on decent servers? I don't think so.


Why i can't get fully buffed summon? If SR is on full buffs let necro and his cursed man be too. If we talking about realy end game then necro gonna have like 50% chance of magic crit and cast over 1,3k. Half of his nuks will be
magic crits and he will shoot like 1,5 nuk in second. How u want survive this on SR. If curse of doom lands SR doesn't have ANY chance because only stun can stop nuking necro. In the fact end game nuker with +50% magic crit chance is most deadly char in 1 vs 1. IMHO end game sps > all.

sorry for not perfect english, it's not my first leanguage


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:21 pm 
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lightoflife wrote:
it's hard to say if a necro can beat the sr or if sr will own necro.
- the attacker will have 70% to win
- if necro land anchor, sr is dead
- if sr land stun shot, necro is dead.

if sr attack 1st, his range will help alot and sr will have time to shot 2 or 3 arrows before necro will be at range.
If necro attack 1st, he will hit sr 2-3 times before the 1st arrow (cause of casting speed).

Who ownz who thread is always like that.
Most of time, attackers wins cause they hit 1st.


We are speaking for a head on fight ofc that if its who atacks first its a bit different but not realy so much :).

SR has no chance to win if he uses rapid fire cause in that case his range becomes too narrow and actualy the necro will be the far shooter in tha situation. The chance is to land stun and hamsting shot.

Stunshot - on a human mage the most unefective of all mages ( cept orcs ) + the STR of the sr is the lowest so the lowest chance for the stun to land - forget about it with one word :) + the necro is fullbuffed ( resist shock and so on )

Even if hamsting lands it wont be anything so dangerous + necro will retaliate with worrior bane.

necro proly will use vortex and curse gloom afterwards nuke few times and SR is down.

SR is verry effective VS other nukers just not VS summoner type/OL

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:01 pm 
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PaaGRIO wrote:
+ the STR of the sr is the lowest so the lowest chance for the stun to land
Gotta lol


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mariosxx wrote:
PaaGRIO wrote:
+ the STR of the sr is the lowest so the lowest chance for the stun to land
Gotta lol

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