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Again u are not sertain of what u are saying besides for a dagger and light armor users there is the posibility of skill evasion which proly will be modified by DEX. Its always good for a dagger to have dex nomatter what chronicle. But still this skill evasion is not working on private servers so there is no chance to know how it works :)
Most of the Dagers have good DEX without dye's and the Evansion and Magic Evansion depend of luck!So if u want a good Dagger never go for -9 STR +5 DEX +4 CON,-9 STR is too much since Interlude,CT1.


Nothing depends on luck i can`t believe i hear it for a program. There is an algorithem which is used to define the skill evasion rate. There is no luck in l2 or in RL for that matter. There is a formula that modifies it, thats all and the formula has stats which can be de/increased i dont know what they are but proly its DEX.

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PaaGRIO wrote:
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Again u are not sertain of what u are saying besides for a dagger and light armor users there is the posibility of skill evasion which proly will be modified by DEX. Its always good for a dagger to have dex nomatter what chronicle. But still this skill evasion is not working on private servers so there is no chance to know how it works :)
Most of the Dagers have good DEX without dye's and the Evansion and Magic Evansion depend of luck!So if u want a good Dagger never go for -9 STR +5 DEX +4 CON,-9 STR is too much since Interlude,CT1.


Nothing depends on luck i can`t believe i hear it for a program. There is an algorithem which is used to define the skill evasion rate. There is no luck in l2 or in RL for that matter. There is a formula that modifies it, thats all and the formula has stats which can be de/increased i dont know what they are but proly its DEX.
Then u can calculate how will end every PvP?I am 100% sure that 30% from the PvP is luck!


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IvoR wrote:
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Again u are not sertain of what u are saying besides for a dagger and light armor users there is the posibility of skill evasion which proly will be modified by DEX. Its always good for a dagger to have dex nomatter what chronicle. But still this skill evasion is not working on private servers so there is no chance to know how it works :)
Most of the Dagers have good DEX without dye's and the Evansion and Magic Evansion depend of luck!So if u want a good Dagger never go for -9 STR +5 DEX +4 CON,-9 STR is too much since Interlude,CT1.


Nothing depends on luck i can`t believe i hear it for a program. There is an algorithem which is used to define the skill evasion rate. There is no luck in l2 or in RL for that matter. There is a formula that modifies it, thats all and the formula has stats which can be de/increased i dont know what they are but proly its DEX.
Then u can calculate how will end every PvP?I am 100% sure that 30% from the PvP is luck!


actualy that luck can be calculated ;) but i`m not the guy that can do it . this topic is unecessary again blow land rate, crit skill rate take the formula from nc soft post it here and u`ll have my admirations but just wild ideas :) no need for that althou its nice to make your day better with some l2 discution.

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PaaGRIO wrote:
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Again u are not sertain of what u are saying besides for a dagger and light armor users there is the posibility of skill evasion which proly will be modified by DEX. Its always good for a dagger to have dex nomatter what chronicle. But still this skill evasion is not working on private servers so there is no chance to know how it works :)
Most of the Dagers have good DEX without dye's and the Evansion and Magic Evansion depend of luck!So if u want a good Dagger never go for -9 STR +5 DEX +4 CON,-9 STR is too much since Interlude,CT1.


Nothing depends on luck i can`t believe i hear it for a program. There is an algorithem which is used to define the skill evasion rate. There is no luck in l2 or in RL for that matter. There is a formula that modifies it, thats all and the formula has stats which can be de/increased i dont know what they are but proly its DEX.
Then u can calculate how will end every PvP?I am 100% sure that 30% from the PvP is luck!


actualy that luck can be calculated ;) but i`m not the guy that can do it . this topic is unecessary again blow land rate, crit skill rate take the formula from nc soft post it here and u`ll have my admirations but just wild ideas :) no need for that althou its nice to make your day better with some l2 discution.
For me this topic is not usseles and luck is a big part of the game.


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It's always luck.
Enchant a skill with 5% of chance? If u got it. Why don't call luck? Cuz its a chance made it by a program?


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Yes, it's made by a program, but the algorythm doesn't apply to YOU personally. For example you make a +4, so that means +5 will fail. No, it applies to all the server. First +4 enchant on the server: success, second one success, third fail, fourth success, etc. So it is a big share of luck.


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just take a friend go in an arena and use 1 skill 100 times .

count the landings and you have the the landingchance in %

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just take a friend go in an arena and use 1 skill 100 times .

count the landings and you have the the landingchance in %
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If from 100 skill's 70 land that no means 70% skill land rate.Couse if he make it again will land 69 or 60 or 80 or 100.That is not a way to calculate the skill's land rate.


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If tis 70% it will mean...7 in every 10 blows which means 2,2 in every 3 blows from the exact same side,distance,same armor same person,same lvls,same buffs/songs/dances,same dyes,same Day/night....

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That way of telling is complete bullcrap. Come on... It's still the algorythm. What if you get all 100 blows by a matter of luck? Will you say that blow land rate is 100%? No!


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That way of telling is complete bullcrap. Come on... It's still the algorythm. What if you get all 100 blows by a matter of luck? Will you say that blow land rate is 100%? No!


ofcuz it is algorythm but if u give normal guys the algorythm they wont understand it complete

if u play on a pvp server my way is a "simple" and at 100 trys it would be near to the orginal. maybe 5% difference

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H4kor wrote:
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That way of telling is complete bullcrap. Come on... It's still the algorythm. What if you get all 100 blows by a matter of luck? Will you say that blow land rate is 100%? No!


ofcuz it is algorythm but if u give normal guys the algorythm they wont understand it complete

if u play on a pvp server my way is a "simple" and at 100 trys it would be near to the orginal. maybe 5% difference
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50%*


especially if it is l2j


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i tryed at lowrate in the monster race arena , from 100 deadly blows 27 was sucessfull , hoooray , im so lucky

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