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Ya understood this one.

Back somewhen i WAS very doubted that it influences that, but further investigation revealed that it wasn't bullshit, these guys were right.


but still .... pw -9str dyes making crit almost every skill

weird dont you think ?


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Good morning. ;)
Ya understood this one.

Back somewhen i WAS very doubted that it influences that, but further investigation revealed that it wasn't bullshit, these guys were right.


but still .... pw -9str dyes making crit almost every skill

weird dont you think ?
On your server Dagers are overpowered u almost crit every time couse of the starange SA "Mortal Strike" +60%,+50%,+40%(depend of the weapon) land rate of blows so WazaWanGa u play a wrong server with overpowered Dagers!In real PvP(1vs1,self buffs,normal server,same lvl,same gear) a TH with dye's -9 DEX +5 DEX +4 CON,dager SA(crt.dmg) will lose by a TH with no dye's and dager with SA(crt.dmg)!


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IvoR wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Good morning. ;)
Ya understood this one.

Back somewhen i WAS very doubted that it influences that, but further investigation revealed that it wasn't bullshit, these guys were right.


but still .... pw -9str dyes making crit almost every skill

weird dont you think ?
On your server Dagers are overpowered u almost crit every time couse of the starange SA "Mortal Strike" +60%,+50%,+40%(depend of the weapon) land rate of blows so WazaWanGa u play a wrong server with overpowered Dagers!In real PvP(1vs1,self buffs,normal server,same lvl,same gear) a TH with dye's -9 DEX +5 DEX +4 CON,dager SA(crt.dmg) will lose by a TH with no dye's and dager with SA(crt.dmg)!


Ivor.... let's not talk about servers ok ? i saw your pw on that +42424 weapons server so you better shut up

first u cant even make SA "mortal blow" or how the hell you call it (never saw it on a dagger) prolly you get it from your gmshop .... +60% land rate increase FTW!! that means what? 100% land

ummm ... real pvp let me guess you did it on you're same server with that mortal strike SA


and yes... i was talking about retail PW -9 STR dyes

you can check it out here www.livepvp.com <--- look at daggers section , only retail players


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
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Icarus wrote:
Good morning. ;)
Ya understood this one.

Back somewhen i WAS very doubted that it influences that, but further investigation revealed that it wasn't bullshit, these guys were right.


but still .... pw -9str dyes making crit almost every skill

weird dont you think ?
On your server Dagers are overpowered u almost crit every time couse of the starange SA "Mortal Strike" +60%,+50%,+40%(depend of the weapon) land rate of blows so WazaWanGa u play a wrong server with overpowered Dagers!In real PvP(1vs1,self buffs,normal server,same lvl,same gear) a TH with dye's -9 DEX +5 DEX +4 CON,dager SA(crt.dmg) will lose by a TH with no dye's and dager with SA(crt.dmg)!


Ivor.... let's not talk about servers ok ? i saw your pw on that +42424 weapons server so you better shut up

first u cant even make SA "mortal blow" or how the hell you call it (never saw it on a dagger) prolly you get it from your gmshop .... +60% land rate increase FTW!! that means what? 100% land

ummm ... real pvp let me guess you did it on you're same server with that mortal strike SA


and yes... i was talking about retail PW -9 STR dyes

you can check it out here www.livepvp.com <--- look at daggers section , only retail players
I was going on your server but i was trying to get info then your GM said that:TH is overpowered couse of server programing and we can't fix it.So sry that u are overpowered in your server and u thing thet u know to play L2.


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IvoR wrote:
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Icarus wrote:
Good morning. ;)
Ya understood this one.

Back somewhen i WAS very doubted that it influences that, but further investigation revealed that it wasn't bullshit, these guys were right.


but still .... pw -9str dyes making crit almost every skill

weird dont you think ?
On your server Dagers are overpowered u almost crit every time couse of the starange SA "Mortal Strike" +60%,+50%,+40%(depend of the weapon) land rate of blows so WazaWanGa u play a wrong server with overpowered Dagers!In real PvP(1vs1,self buffs,normal server,same lvl,same gear) a TH with dye's -9 DEX +5 DEX +4 CON,dager SA(crt.dmg) will lose by a TH with no dye's and dager with SA(crt.dmg)!


Ivor.... let's not talk about servers ok ? i saw your pw on that +42424 weapons server so you better shut up

first u cant even make SA "mortal blow" or how the hell you call it (never saw it on a dagger) prolly you get it from your gmshop .... +60% land rate increase FTW!! that means what? 100% land

ummm ... real pvp let me guess you did it on you're same server with that mortal strike SA


and yes... i was talking about retail PW -9 STR dyes

you can check it out here www.livepvp.com <--- look at daggers section , only retail players
I was going on your server but i was trying to get info then your GM said that:TH is overpowered couse of server programing and we can't fix it.So sry that u are overpowered in your server and u thing thet u know to play L2.

man ppl dont care if TH are overpowered on my server i dont even play it , this thread was created for blow land rates , so stick to it


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
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Good morning. ;)
Ya understood this one.

Back somewhen i WAS very doubted that it influences that, but further investigation revealed that it wasn't bullshit, these guys were right.


but still .... pw -9str dyes making crit almost every skill

weird dont you think ?
On your server Dagers are overpowered u almost crit every time couse of the starange SA "Mortal Strike" +60%,+50%,+40%(depend of the weapon) land rate of blows so WazaWanGa u play a wrong server with overpowered Dagers!In real PvP(1vs1,self buffs,normal server,same lvl,same gear) a TH with dye's -9 DEX +5 DEX +4 CON,dager SA(crt.dmg) will lose by a TH with no dye's and dager with SA(crt.dmg)!


Ivor.... let's not talk about servers ok ? i saw your pw on that +42424 weapons server so you better shut up

first u cant even make SA "mortal blow" or how the hell you call it (never saw it on a dagger) prolly you get it from your gmshop .... +60% land rate increase FTW!! that means what? 100% land

ummm ... real pvp let me guess you did it on you're same server with that mortal strike SA


and yes... i was talking about retail PW -9 STR dyes

you can check it out here www.livepvp.com <--- look at daggers section , only retail players
I was going on your server but i was trying to get info then your GM said that:TH is overpowered couse of server programing and we can't fix it.So sry that u are overpowered in your server and u thing thet u know to play L2.

man ppl dont care if TH are overpowered on my server i dont even play it , this thread was created for blow land rates , so stick to it
I just want to tell them that u can only type but u never played on a "NORMAL SERVER",so u can't know the anser for the Blow's Land rate...it is normal on bad programed server to make almost all blows criticals and one more thing between Blow Land rate and Blow Land+critical have a difference for that u need STR!


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IvoR wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
IvoR wrote:
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IvoR wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Good morning. ;)
Ya understood this one.

Back somewhen i WAS very doubted that it influences that, but further investigation revealed that it wasn't bullshit, these guys were right.


but still .... pw -9str dyes making crit almost every skill

weird dont you think ?
On your server Dagers are overpowered u almost crit every time couse of the starange SA "Mortal Strike" +60%,+50%,+40%(depend of the weapon) land rate of blows so WazaWanGa u play a wrong server with overpowered Dagers!In real PvP(1vs1,self buffs,normal server,same lvl,same gear) a TH with dye's -9 DEX +5 DEX +4 CON,dager SA(crt.dmg) will lose by a TH with no dye's and dager with SA(crt.dmg)!


Ivor.... let's not talk about servers ok ? i saw your pw on that +42424 weapons server so you better shut up

first u cant even make SA "mortal blow" or how the hell you call it (never saw it on a dagger) prolly you get it from your gmshop .... +60% land rate increase FTW!! that means what? 100% land

ummm ... real pvp let me guess you did it on you're same server with that mortal strike SA


and yes... i was talking about retail PW -9 STR dyes

you can check it out here www.livepvp.com <--- look at daggers section , only retail players
I was going on your server but i was trying to get info then your GM said that:TH is overpowered couse of server programing and we can't fix it.So sry that u are overpowered in your server and u thing thet u know to play L2.

man ppl dont care if TH are overpowered on my server i dont even play it , this thread was created for blow land rates , so stick to it
I just want to tell them that u can only type but u never played on a "NORMAL SERVER",so u can't know the anser for the Blow's Land rate...it is normal on bad programed server to make almost all blows criticals and one more thing between Blow Land rate and Blow Land+critical have a difference for that u need STR!


ok ivor i know you play on official before NC ppl were born but still you cant talk about what server i play since you said that players can take might mortal SA to improve land blows !!!!

what should i belive now Ivor ? you never played L2 without a GMshop ? xD


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I thought Mortal blow SA was phrase out? I know that was the era of dagger class.


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yeah you cant make it , but you can buy it on x6HD487 servers with gmshop ( npc where you can buy all items in the game)


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Waza, let's not take about servers with YOU, because i know what bullshit servers you play. With -9 str, the skill crit isn't that high.


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
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and now u want to say that blows are influeced by str too ?


Yes, they are.
DEX influences the Critical RATE, STR influences the Critical AMMOUNT.

Exactly. You're an asshole. DEX doesn't influence blow land rate since c5, and str influences the blow damage VERY VERY VERY LITTLE. The only thing str gives now, in interlude/ct1 is chance to do CRIT skills, such as crit backstab. Ever had a dagger and did some insane damage with backstab? That was the crit.

@Ivor, you won't drop dex, maybe on th, but the dagger was very free on dyes, because they dropped str and used to lose almost nothing. Now they lose the chance to do crit skills.


str gives chances to crit ..... interesting

for some time i start to belive that STR influences skill crit rate , because how else would a tyrant with -9dex dyes make a nice amount of crits on skills
str dont influences skill crit rate ... the passive Skill Mastery (1) Passive 0 0 14670000 Masters excellence in skills. Low possibility of being able to re-use skills without delay or doubles the duration. Influenced by STR. does like Skill Mastery (1) Passive 0 0 14670000 Masters excellence in skills. Low possibility of being able to re-use skills without delay or doubles the duration. Influenced by INT. on mages

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I am 100% sure that a Dager with no dye's will own any another Dager with dye's -9 STR +5 DEX +4 CON(In Interlude and CT1).In c4 the dager with +5 DEX +4 CON -9 STR will own and i will say again it have difference between Skill's(Blow's) land rate(DEX) and skill's land+critical(STR) or Blows land+leanthal or Blows+leanthal+critical!So best on Interlude or CT1 is to not use dye's in PvP for Dagers couse the STR and the DEX since Interlude and CT1 are both important for the Blows land rate and Blows land+critical!


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i heard enought , i will change my dyes from +5dex +4con -9 str to +4con-4str and +4wit -4int , btw what about critical wound , is that a good skill or it gives litle crit atk more , anybody already tryed it ?

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Again u are not sertain of what u are saying besides for a dagger and light armor users there is the posibility of skill evasion which proly will be modified by DEX. Its always good for a dagger to have dex nomatter what chronicle. But still this skill evasion is not working on private servers so there is no chance to know how it works :)

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Again u are not sertain of what u are saying besides for a dagger and light armor users there is the posibility of skill evasion which proly will be modified by DEX. Its always good for a dagger to have dex nomatter what chronicle. But still this skill evasion is not working on private servers so there is no chance to know how it works :)
Most of the Dagers have good DEX without dye's and the Evansion and Magic Evansion depend of luck!So if u want a good Dagger never go for -9 STR +5 DEX +4 CON,-9 STR is too much since Interlude,CT1.


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