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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:51 pm 
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They're not tanks, they just have high hp. They can't captate the enemies' attention by hate.


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Imo TK - SK are better for sieges and mass pvp because they are way faster than human tanks + have 360 degrees of shield defense + guard stance.

SK may even get a few pvps in a siege. (well TK can also get but for an SK it is easier)

also TK can root in 2 deferent ways so attractive cubic + bow is really nice when ud is on.


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i agree...


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eleinos wrote:
Imo TK - SK are better for sieges and mass pvp because they are way faster than human tanks + have 360 degrees of shield defense + guard stance.

SK may even get a few pvps in a siege. (well TK can also get but for an SK it is easier)

also TK can root in 2 deferent ways so attractive cubic + bow is really nice when ud is on.


Actualy all the tanks have the 360 s.def. on that point the paladin has magesty and angelic icon. Making him the strongest tank + if thats not enought he has soul of phoenix ( res retaining all buffs ) so u have 2chars in 1 when u fight VS him.

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so for you da isnt a tank ?

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PaaGRIO wrote:
Actualy all the tanks have the 360 s.def. on that point the paladin has magesty and angelic icon. Making him the strongest tank + if thats not enought he has soul of phoenix ( res retaining all buffs ) so u have 2chars in 1 when u fight VS him.


- DA is a tank and don't have 360° shield block
- 360° shield block of the paly is a toggle that reduc shield Pdef so majesty only gives the pally what they naturally have (SK/TK)

SK/TK have guard stance and shield fortress and a passive skill that provide 360° shield defense.

TK have healing cubic and good run speed, ubber magic defense and very good pdef/shield pdef/shield rate


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tk the best tank :D

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atlant man....^^ i know u like elfs...but .....they are not the best in every class!!


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On tanking, the tk IS the best tank if you match the longevity. The tk can take the most damage of all tanks, more than sk because he has 4 con added. But in pvp the sk is somewhat better because he can sustain his hp longer IN BATTLE, as healing in battle isn't an option. Cast time for heal is rather long, while life leech has nice reuse and short cast time.


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with fullbuffs i get 800 cst.spd with my sr , i think that the cst.spd on tk would be the same

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It's the same... There's not cast passive.


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atlant448 wrote:
with fullbuffs i get 800 cst.spd with my sr , i think that the cst.spd on tk would be the same


i don't know what server you play on but in retail ET 79 lvl + IC+3 set + tatte+3 set + dyes +4WIT -4INT,+4CON -4STR,+4DEX -4STR and health weapon has the below stats with health weapon:

HP 8862
MP 2350
P.Atk. 578
P.Def. 1417
Accuracy 120
Critical 121
Atk. Spd. 589
M.Atk. 401
M.Def. 1101
Evasion 108
Speed 179
Casting Spd. 393


and that is with 72 lvl profet buffs so i can't imagine how this 393 c speed can turn up to 800 even with acumen sa on weapon and dance of concentration-berzerker spirit-+5WIt istead of +4...


actually on l2 calc it sais it can reach up to 664 c speed.


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