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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:32 pm 
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Blah wrote:
DoctorWatson wrote:
It is about chosing from one of those, L2Dex made a big step in the wrong direction, thats why the post is made here.

Then the topic name is wrong, if SherlockHolmes wanted a new "DEX vs RPG-Club" thread, those are allover the place here if you take a look.
For now there is NO good Epilogue out there, except lineage2.com and I have no idea what DEX and Gigarent.it are testing with these files, cuz to fix everything to get to flawless would be too much work.
So we can't really speak here about a direction, maybe just a presumption ?
And RPG-Club has their problems too, we know about those also, but explain truly the problem and let ppl to choose where they will play on. Or we should really bring this thread to DEX vs RPG-Club again?

From rpg-club forums, by players without a answer from admins.
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On rpg is oly bugged, tw bugged, fame points bugged, now is also sod bugged.
Every fcking day SS lags, donations and u can bot easily.

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rpg-club free, 100% gracia final server. Many exploits included.
With half-working hero zerk, ss lags, and bug with oly points. Ya 100%.


i dont ask to flame you i ask for real cos iam curious and really dont know it becasuse i dont play rpg

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tw bugged, fame points bugged, now is also sod bugged.


explain me the bugs in detail please
i already know about the other things mentioned in your post


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anyone else who /cares about dex and are not bot-club fanbois, get me some good reason why i shouldn't join the new dex serv and i'm going to listen
i don't rly want to start again to just realize the serv sux, if dex will, then i'm on my way searching for another serv, that's all folks


well i think time will tell how the new dex server will be
If they really rely on l2j crap i wouldnt see it that positive
as i said before
i would choose the files l2dex uses now ( even though its faulty) over any l2j

But well you have to decide
At the end of feburary they wanna up the server and you have to take lot of things into consideration-> staff, server files etc etc

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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:38 pm 
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Bringing it down to a RPG-Club vs L2Dex actually wasnt my intention.
In the post i refered to it, I took it as an example, literally if you read it again.

I meant that there is competition L2Dex staff seems to ignore by fooling their community.
Editing posts, deleting bug threads, banning ppl for telling the truth, stil having wrong damage formulas but all they do is keeping players calm and not talk about it by banning and deleting again.
No fixes at all
And now they come up with bad L2j files for their new server, they see that ppl noticed how bad they are and edit things again to make it look like they never wanted to use them.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:41 pm 
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well then it comes down to the opening, fail or not fail
the ignoration mostly just proves that sth's not right, catalin was always like that as much as i heard, rly disappointing to say at least


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:42 pm 
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BaMZziLIan wrote:
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tw bugged, fame points bugged, now is also sod bugged.


explain me the bugs in detail please
i already know about the other things mentioned in your post


Territory wars have a problem with the START DATE, it gets messed up. database problem/admins problem w/e makes this.
Fame dissapeared from character.
SoD bug: the time the instance is opened for players. Шабака is doin restarts to make it work. http://www.rpg-club.com/en/f/index.php?topic=1504.0
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Its bugged agian, GMs told me they have Seeds setup from teon but still its bugged and even when nobody making SoD opened longer time by killing spawning Tiat, it opens after 1 hour always like it was bugged on beggining on server...
Correct it and close it as it should be now almost 24hours closed...

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DoctorWatson wrote:
I meant that there is competition L2Dex staff seems to ignore by fooling their community.
Editing posts, deleting bug threads, banning ppl for telling the truth, stil having wrong damage formulas but all they do is keeping players calm and not talk about it by banning and deleting again.

True, (thanks cuz pmfun exists :) )they did that and maybe they are still doing it and they will keep do it. But in a way or another the community still get the chance to speak their points, in Bugs sections, complains section.

DoctorWatson wrote:
And now they come up with bad L2j files for their new server, they see that ppl noticed how bad they are and edit things again to make it look like they never wanted to use them.

Can we say that they will use L2J for new server? DEX and Gigarent.it test .. we'll get the answer sooner or later. Wont this be too bad for them? Since they have the greatest community between privates, and I didnt had the chance to see a L2J working flawless but if that will happen and it really works properly how many of players will care cuz its L2J ?
Too bad for DEX cuz it didnt got those leaked files ah? It could become the dream server for all us.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:51 pm 
I dont understand why you are so against dex ? that test server hurt your feelings or what? that test server isn`t even hosted by dex and as catalin said in the latest post he just wants to test his new software where he can fix things "on the fly".

How can you know that rpg doesent have l2j code in their servers ? Dex has is a big name and even if catalin has many bad parts in his behaviour he surely wants 1 thing, to have a good l2 server, you wouldnt ban the guy who just registers and talk crap as you did ?

If catalin would be a bad manager he surely wouldnt manage to keep that servers up and have incoming population to server.

You were so against dex from the begining so coming here to be the guy who wants to show dex bad parts is lame.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:54 pm 
BaMZziLIan wrote:
explain me the bugs in detail please
i already know about the other things mentioned in your post


I know this is about dex but the guys asked, i will simply direct him to a post that explains this so called bugs: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10286&start=60
Check the last post.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:59 pm 
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I dont hate any Server, Iam actually improving it more than the ppl that just take it as it comes.
Its so hard to show sth. So many threads got deleted because of people which appear here aswell, flamers which post nothing on topic from beginning on.
Ive gone far offtopic aswell, too strong will to discuss things.

Silently agreeing to the last post from the link above, atleast I played there and tested it before
building an opinion aswell.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:07 am 
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How can you know that rpg doesent have l2j code in their servers ? Dex has is a big name and even if catalin has many bad parts in his behaviour he surely wants 1 thing, to have a good l2 server, you wouldnt ban the guy who just registers and talk crap as you did ?

Common sense. If it's a perfect replica of retail then it means their retail files, simple as that. Why? Making files in l2j, c, c++ or w/e coding language u want that are identical with retail is simply impossible. There are too many variables that there is no way to find them out. A person that has at least a few months of live play on retail can spot the difference between a server that has retail files and a server that has modded/emulated (l2j) files. Right now there are quite a lot of retail clans and players playing on rpg club, including the top clan of luna (yes, luna was quite quite weak among the other retail servers but still) that also dominates the 30x. I urge u to go and ask them on rpg's forum, what they think of their files. Or private chat with them, if u have the possibility.

I'm one of the ppl that also played retail, since gracia (stoped quite some time before epilogue, to much boting involved on retail to enjoy the game), very little boting and i can tell u with the hand on my heart that rpg is identical with retail in almost all aspects. There are some weird bugs but they seem to be mostly caused by the incompetent administration.


Sorry for going offtopic, i know this is about dex. Just wanted to make things clear about rpg so we can concentrate on dex, no need to talk about other servers here. Dex had a veeeeeeeeeeeeery weak interlude test server also, but after some months of work it turned out to be quite ok. So have some faith in dex.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:10 am 
Can't edit, damn >.< mby i should make an account... anyway, the edit:
A person that has at least a few months of live play on retail can spot the difference between a server that has retail files and a server that has modded/emulated (l2j) files in a matter of minutes.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:12 am 
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Its ok as long as these hates arent evolving into lame flames, which mostly are making the threads to be deleted.
viewtopic.php?p=129345#p129345
Was nice to have this conversation with you. Dont bring cons only to one server if you want a real comparison. Both server have their own problem, considering only dex and rpg-club here. RPG-Club needs a better administration, some ppl who care really care about international community which is the biggest there on donations also and THE ANTIBOT sistem asap. And DEX has the community atm, and trying the best with what they have, in continuous contact with the community. But both are still free so we cant BLAME or DEMAND :) (bad part tho) enjoy your gaming wherever you will be playing.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:19 am 
Well Catalin said that soulshots now loads as they should, that`s why i`m saying you can`t be sure that any of servers don`t have a bit of l2j in them. Anyway as blah said both servers have good parts and bad parts and i`m sure catalin won`t risk to use l2j on his new server...he is not from yesterday in l2 world.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:20 am 
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watson u failed man u pissed catallin and expect not to be banned ? i will choose dex new serv again like i did on old one where i played more than 1 year and atleast there is not going to be any wipe in like 1 year like most servers do . Even with all the flames about dex it will have more ppl than rpg ( i think it will have 1,5 k max ) and raidfight (1 k )

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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:26 am 
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@Blah
"Is RPG Club for example stil more professional even tho the staff is barely supporting?"
Thats what I said when I compared them. Iam aknowledged that the Staff causes distrust for a reason.
Iam okay with stopping the conversation here aswell tho its nothing related to topic anymore.

Imo ppl (BruSS giving a quite good example) need to be a bit more sceptical even tho they got trained not to be. My conclusion for this thread.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:36 am 
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DoctorWatson wrote:
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"Is RPG Club for example stil more professional even tho the staff is barely supporting?"

Atm they have the best files allover the privates, them and graciafinal.ru. But for the moment that all what they have, they are still lacking in alot of things which are making a community to grow.
Imagine those files on dex custody with the actual community, would be something else.


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 Post subject: Re: TheTruthAboutDex(EpilougeTest)
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:42 am 
<- The same guest as above.
I think i said countless times in my posts, rpg administratation is retardeeeeeed. They can't fix the simplest of bugs, which, ironically, most of them were caused by the admins :)). They are like close to 0 communication with international community but it's a little understandable, they're russians after all. Also, the hardware sucks balls on rpg 30x, hope it will be better. The hardware part is odd though, in the first months it worked perfect. Yes, more ppl joined since then but still, there were huge mass pvp's with zero ss lags like u can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEkuVyDHuo4
Those were the fun times :X. Anyway, there u go, i posted the weak parts of rpg too, so u don't say i'm a "fanboi" or anything xD


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