every archer is good if u know how to use it!!i prefer PR...because of the spikey damage!!then HE ....and the last SR because he has speed but damage...not really!!

yea PR is my favorite archer too , but HE is better than him

Oh really? Well i suggest YOU start playing HERE: http://www.lineage.ro
THEN you can talk. I know you won't play. Or if you will, you're gonna quit, saying it's too hard. You're the biggest noob i have ever seen. HE cannot kite, pr can, sr can. HE best in sieges? Look, maybe he has snipe, but remember it immobilises the archer. That means he won't be able to pull out.

Never been to a siege with 300+ players? You're right... I have been to a siege with 1k+ playrs. EternalKnights had giran on dex. I was there when they lost it. It was something you will NEVER see in this game because you like playing yykx servers where the th kills you in one backstab FROM THE FRONT, and HE crits 50k dmg. I have seen those servers.

You're the biggest bug in this forum, and guess what, admins tend to eliminate bugs.

+666

HE is the best simplply because he has the most in the base stats. dex + str + con is higher then both SR and PR. Not because of snipe, which IS useful when defending from a castle wall.

Of course all have their strengths but if you think that the PW is stronger because of it's speed, you can just alter a HE with Dyes and it would be as fast or even faster and still be able to take more damage.

Yes, i understand what you're saying, but a HE can in fact kite quite good in a siege using dash lvl 1, it's not that great though. If you plan the buffs right, with lots of evasion buffs you can kite quite good, even with a HE.

The big difference between the PR,HE and the SR is that the SR can heal himself some, and the PR can use hex and PB in close range.


Btw don't be so damn angry, this ain't a debate it's a forum. none will listen more if you're yelling and calling someone names...

Don't worry, it's not the first time he's talking without thinking. He's been altering this forum for a long time.

Yes, you can make a HE kite, dash lvl 1 isn't great, it's short duration. You can't make it kite efficiently. Because the higher the base stat is, the higher the gain through dyes is. That's why a HE unbuffed max speed is 143 (+5 dex), while an elf with no dyes goes to 154, with +5 dex it's 161. See, it's 18 speed difference. Ofc i prize a HE because he can do top speed, but for a very short duration.

So on kiting, HE is outran. And vs a pw, well, think that the HE with +5 dex will probably have 38 con, and, well, the pw has 36, which is not a big diff.

Some people add max str too, which leads the he to a stun magnet, like the dark elves. 33 con isn't good for a HE. You see, the str is mediocre, and the dex is low. Instead, con is bigger. You know that if base stat is higher you get more gain. But inversly proportional you get a high loss if you drop it. It's no use altering a HE with any dyes in my opinion. That's because they don't gain so much from dex and str, but they lose a lot of hp by dropping con.

u all must remember that for example 34 con on a HE dont equal 34 con on a PR.


HE 80 lvl -9 con (34 CON)
hp=3578

PR 80 lvl +2 con (34 CON)
hp=4220

He is right I check it ( http://l2calc.l2blah.com/ ) .... PR ownz

hehe...PR FTW

In siege, HE > all when defending, cuz u can snipe from tower.
In siege zone, PR = HE > SR imo cuz of better spike dmg...

All in all, HE is more balanced than others.
But PR can reach better damages...
SR ain't as good at damages...but aren't bad either...

i think+1

Indeed, i agree with some parts of your arguments, however a HE isn't going to need more running speed to kite another archer :S Everything he needs is to be able to kite slow running fighters. And on a big battlefield dash lvl 1 might be the difference between surivival and dying. And lets face it, the only time you're going into pvp unbuffed is when you're on the Only, and then you get Wind walk anyways.

In my opinion HE is the slightly better archer beacause of it's allround playstyle. It's quite easy to pvp and pve with and not really weak in any stat which makes it good against most other classes. The SR is quick and sick in TvT events just because of it's quick skills and speed. PR is awesome in Pve and pvp but won't do so good in solo pve just beacause if its low hp.

Personaly i prefer not to use any +dex dyes and don't like putting +str either. Only if you're constantly playing in large groups i might do that, but otherwise it's just a waste of cash.

Man look up and see I and 1 other guy -what we wrote for the HP....I see that is 80 lvl but i thing on 78lvl will be the same but -150 200 hp

Exactly my point. There's only 1 possible move to ensure maximum performance on a HE. That is +con -dex. You're probably wondering why -dex. Well, dash can hold the speed burst to escape messy situations. There is a lvl 1 boost atk speed passive to compensate the lack of atk speed. If you drop str, you will lose some more stats than if you'd drop dex.

That's why, people, that's why you don't -con on your HE like most of the people do. They think irrational, they think that it's logic that 38 con is better than 36 con. Well it's not. Not necessarily. This is something valuable, if you can understand dyes, you will have the dye to your advantage, instead of disadvantage.

And not least, THIS is the reason why smart glads drop their dex.

HE is very...very...strange.....but i think u know better...btw..i like your baphomet..i think it is:))