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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:09 pm 
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hello. i'm posting first time here.I'm playing at high rate pvp server with khavatari and getting owned from daggers , archers in one or few critical hit/s. i have vesper light set or should i get heavy ?
in the servers theres no donation and the enchant rate is low so everyone is with +10 max items.
i have +5 str -+ con - x2 and +5dex - 6con dyes .
i've read all posts about tyrants dyes here, tried everything. so please help.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:19 pm 
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1.
You lowered your con
2.
You raised your dex?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:34 am 
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caalem wrote:
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You lowered your con
2.
You raised your dex?

3.quit high rates

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:54 am 
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jaunynas wrote:
i have +5 str -+ con - x2 and +5dex - 6con dyes .
i've read all posts about tyrants dyes here

ROFLMAO

If u had actually have read all the posts about tyrant dyes, u would know that ur dyes ->SUCK<-
First, u lowered ur con...NEVER do that on tyrant
Second, a dye -6 CON? Its a high ate so there should be dyes +4/-4 in shop. Go and use them.
I advise using no dyes or - 4 DEX + 4 CON
As for not being owned in 1 crit, u have tooooooo low CON (I didnt get ur dyes, I mean +5 str -+ con - x2???? what does this mean? oO) -> dont run around on 30% all the time. Try jumping in pvp with full HP. When the time comes, u can use zealot

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:26 am 
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I like -8 dex / +4str +4con on my GK, you lose like 8 speed/20 attack speed/2 accuracy or something, dex is overrated.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:14 am 
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+5 str -+ con - x2

does this mean you have what?? THOSE DYES 2 TIMES??
like - 10 CON?? O.o in that case you know you can't raise any stat by dyes for more than 5 RIGHT??? and yes your dyes SUCK with that CON you will get 1 shot SPECIALLY on pvp servers :D and sometimes they don't even work properly or are in plain dissadvantage with archers/ daggers thx to critical buffs and bugged lethals ( in high rates. most of em.)


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:23 pm 
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theres no +4 -4 dyes. even when i have +con +str -dex they kill me with few hits.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:35 pm 
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EUPHORIA wrote:
than /quit that srvr


i like that server. its very hard to find a good one with no donations or bugged skills, items.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:43 pm 
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going for -con on tyrant is like going to party whit out canndons.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:40 pm 
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learn to playing GK on low rates, then go HR, nab
ur using dyes +STR, +CON, -DEX, coz ur spamming only skills in pvp

He's must be Herliz fanboi -18 CON on Titan, hurey!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:04 pm 
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Shaveneal wrote:
learn to playing GK on low rates, then go HR, nab
ur using dyes +STR, +CON, -DEX, coz ur spamming only skills in pvp

He's must be Herliz fanboi -18 CON on Titan, hurey!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:39 pm 
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Hy

I'm playin' an l2j server (epilouge) with nearly offical settings. (rate: 100x)

I've got a GK in dyna heavy +5 set (I know I can't.. but here I can wear it with weapon master SA), +4str,+4con, -8dex dye.
2 weap; 1 icarus hand (+5 , holy:150, focus) and a DS,(+12, fire:150, crt. stun)
and I'm sux in PVP(DC, BD,SWS buffs are on).
I can beat mages, daggerers easily, but against an other tyrant, or desrto I barely take their CP :-/ and I dunno what can be tjr problem.
Totems what I use:
rabbit - if I need to run
hawk - on atack
bison - under 60% HP (under 30% +zealot), but I don't have enough time to use this.

Can anyone help me how could I be better, or what should I do?
thank you in anticipation


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:20 pm 
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A little guide from me
OGRE on low ranges (gladis tanks and other of this kind)
Rabit vs mage,archer and all runing bitches
Dyes... hmm No dyes or a +4con -4DEX
Spam Burning fist , hurricane assault , stun , Force of destruction and the nearby mass when u fight tyrants gladis and titans, kamaels aswell this is the faking best combo with full buffs (i suggest u use full buffs since its a pvp server)
Make an health fist GTFO these shit fist of yours focus.. haha u use hits? :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:12 pm 
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+ 4 str it will be good cuz in gracia final + str mean more skills crit (in pvp you spam skills vs. all )

+4 str - 4 dex and wepon + health + heavy(enchant light)

and if you have full byff take +4 con - 4 dex

whit this euip you have ~ 20 k hp and you goes under 60 % hp ~ 10 -11 k hp and under 30% ~5-6k hp
after zealot + bison your enemy down on 10 hit max (mage on 3 4 )
go try any 10 30x rate server to learn tyrant and then go high rate and you will beat all ppl there :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:31 pm 
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At first thx the replies.

It's not only a pvp server... not so easy obtain good stuff... the ica hand with focus mostly for RB, and farm

in full buff without healt on weap, i've got aproximetly 20K hp... I think its good enough jet +25% hp.. whoooa :D

Another... I've got an Plated set (shirt, boots, gaiters) +14 - +13 ... Should I use this instead the +5 Dyna heavy? I think 4 extra STR is a good thing...

(with the plated set I use the dyna gloves, helm for more p.def, but on plated there is no elemental stone :-/)


The crt stun is a good choice or I should use only the one with health?


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