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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:33 am 
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6k damage backstab... I really don't know what servers you have played, but i assure you, if it's vs a mage with similar equip, the dagger will to around 1.5k-2k damage per hit from the front, and of course much more damage from the back. But NOT 6k. That damage is insane, MAYBE if the mage is 61 and the gh 80. I suggest you play on better servers.

You can nullify a nuke damage. You CAN'T nullify an arrow in your ass? I tell you that you can. You know there are some buffs called... Shield, earth chant... Heard of them? 3k damage again by an arrow in your ass? A bow critical isn't THAT strong. A bow crit won't just suck away half of my hp. It's maybe a 2k damage with vicious stance on.

Necro best ganking mage? I can tell you that the sps can kill those 1/2/3 chars that you are talking about. Ever heard of running back/attacking again? No, you and your necro just like to STAY and rely on your transfer pain. One day you're gonna forget about that transfer pain and get juiced up. The damage output of the sps is the highest of all mages.

A dagger may kill the necro harder, but then... What's the damage output of the necro comparing to the sps? If necro had something like ice/fire/wind vortex, he would have been very good. But he hasn't...
u said that sps have the higher dmg of all mages ... btw sph have higher

Not damage per hit. Damage per second. The sps has superior cast speed.
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6k damage backstab... I really don't know what servers you have played, but i assure you, if it's vs a mage with similar equip, the dagger will to around 1.5k-2k damage per hit from the front, and of course much more damage from the back. But NOT 6k. That damage is insane, MAYBE if the mage is 61 and the gh 80. I suggest you play on better servers.

You can nullify a nuke damage. You CAN'T nullify an arrow in your ass? I tell you that you can. You know there are some buffs called... Shield, earth chant... Heard of them? 3k damage again by an arrow in your ass? A bow critical isn't THAT strong. A bow crit won't just suck away half of my hp. It's maybe a 2k damage with vicious stance on.

Necro best ganking mage? I can tell you that the sps can kill those 1/2/3 chars that you are talking about. Ever heard of running back/attacking again? No, you and your necro just like to STAY and rely on your transfer pain. One day you're gonna forget about that transfer pain and get juiced up. The damage output of the sps is the highest of all mages.

A dagger may kill the necro harder, but then... What's the damage output of the necro comparing to the sps? If necro had something like ice/fire/wind vortex, he would have been very good. But he hasn't...

Dude seriously now, you're dumb :|
You really know shit about L2.....
And FYI my GH lvl 78 BSed a lvl 76 full buffed SH for 7k...
I have even done that dmg to light armors....
Maybe you have no idea what PoW, Cat blessing, fire, dw, focus death does lol...and I assure you, double damage backstab will be more then that xD On Interlude crit dmg got nerfed, but who the fuck plays interlude? All Interlude servers are buggy and laggy as Hell, and even L2J
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Also no, SH has better DPS than SPS when buffed....
Difference ain't that big when both classes are full buffed lmao
And Necro has a pet lol....and necro can run and hit too, can use summon
too...

And best thing...A BOW CRITICAL ISNT THAT STRONG?????????????
LOL? XD I have been hit for 8k on full C5Off server by full buffed/stacked
HE, but I see you play another game .....and rly u just say shit...

Dude seriously now... YOU suck at l2. Because when a bow will crit me 8k (which means he will probably kill me in 1 hit) IN AN EQUAL COMBAT show me. This means that YOU know shit about l2. 8k dmg from bow. :D I'll remember that. Time to go to linkmania to make fun of you a bit. :)
You know the problem in l2 WAS c5. If i remember right c5 l2j is full of bugs, so please show me what server you are playing. Focus death is double damage. But from 2k to 8k that 4x damage.
Interlude servers aren't laggy, it's your mind that's laggy. If you put interlude on a weak server with 3k+ server of course you will get item lag.
Sps casting speed is way higher, so the dps goes to the sps STOP talking bullcrap. Ask away, everyone that has played l2 (unlike you) will say that the sps has superior dps. Ah i got it, necro can use his summon to hit? Why doesn't he play summoner then? Get the summon to fight and heal it eh? You aren't logical. If the necro sends the summon to fight along him... That's a huge mistake because a dagger won't even need to get to the necro to kill its summon.
And the bow critical again... You just said? Full buffed/STACKED he? Do you even know what stacked is?


Oh and atlant... You are still learning things about this game. Man, ignore mario's posts because he thinks 1 hit can kill someone. Who are you going to trust? The man that said a buffer does more damage instead of destro?


And marios, as long as i remember playing on l2gold (which is a balanced c4 server) i would hit with dw dance of fire/pow for around 3k backstab on a mage with normal buffs... Your 7k damage is straight to hell boy... If you put all those things on a dagger you wil probably get a 4 MAXIMUM 4.5 k damage on a mage with good armor/buffs. And i was playing c4, where the dagger had a much more blow damage.

I say you quit l2 if you aren't going to play balanced low rates.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:21 am 
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if we are talking about archers. 7-8k dmg isnt a problem for endgame pr/he. i saw Perenthis vid (HE from bartz) where he was droping robe users for almost 14k dmg, another archers in draconic for 5.5k and tanks for ~3k. ofc u need boss jewelery + hero skills to reach this lvl of dmg. not talking about dances, death wisper, cat buff, cov. but u must understand ppl that best dyes for he/pr is + 5 str not crappy + dex lol.


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all who are saying light armor users like archer/dagger should use heavy armor - go play with your friend fruitcake.
all who are saying archers can't get 5k+ crits - go play with your friend fruitcake.
all who are saying sps has best dmg output, think again, becouse sps has just big cast speed and m def, while sh can get almost 2x m atack while having lower cast speed, and , yeah, if you go sps with nighmare robe or smthng, its cool lol, need to make class good, class won't speak for itself.
And I saw how HE can crit 16k, think if PR crit same target same buffs.

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The guys that posted here proved I'm right :)
1st of all, full buffed SPS has lowest DPS than all mages...
has like +300 c speed more max then SH and like -800 m att....make the math dude.....xd

About backstab you didn't even bother reading my post ey?...dumbass

Also every intelligent person knows that STACKED archers (YES THATS HOW ITS CALLED) can pretty much 1-2-3 hit most classes.
Every intelligent person knows full buffed daggers pretty much 1-2 stab
robes...and thats their job anyway.

Also, On C4 more blow damage? lol ? xD
You're hardcore L2 Gold player.... i guess you know a lot ....lol
Dude stop playing L2J shit and come back to the real world.. XD

And max 4,5k dmg? xD
http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 185rn6.jpg click :P
That damage was on Avadon robe :p he was unbuffed tho....and i landed hex on him. And as u see, no cat queen and no PoW and no focus death :P

Also when did I say buffer does more damage than destro? xD

Also whats funny in necro using his cursed man?
Cursed man is the strongest summon in L2....with buffs it rapes anything.
Every intelligent man knows that....you dont.

Also, I play L2J? I played x5 and x15 C5Off , Supreme....noop.

You fail so much .... xD

PS: ewwww btw , that was my exp bar + CP pots on 1 :P


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mariosxx wrote:
The guys that posted here proved I'm right :)
1st of all, full buffed SPS has lowest DPS than all mages...
has like +300 c speed more max then SH and like -800 m att....make the math dude.....xd

About backstab you didn't even bother reading my post ey?...dumbass

Also every intelligent person knows that STACKED archers (YES THATS HOW ITS CALLED) can pretty much 1-2-3 hit most classes.
Every intelligent person knows full buffed daggers pretty much 1-2 stab
robes...and thats their job anyway.

Also, On C4 more blow damage? lol ? xD
You're hardcore L2 Gold player.... i guess you know a lot ....lol
Dude stop playing L2J shit and come back to the real world.. XD

And max 4,5k dmg? xD
http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 185rn6.jpg click :P
That damage was on Avadon robe :p he was unbuffed tho....and i landed hex on him. And as u see, no cat queen and no PoW and no focus death :P

Also when did I say buffer does more damage than destro? xD

Also whats funny in necro using his cursed man?
Cursed man is the strongest summon in L2....with buffs it rapes anything.
Every intelligent man knows that....you dont.

Also, I play L2J? I played x5 and x15 C5Off , Supreme....noop.

You fail so much .... xD

PS: ewwww btw , that was my exp bar + CP pots on 1 :P
about mages sph makes more dmgps with cdl but in pvp sps have the highest dmgps , sry but i dont agree with u about mages

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Mario's stupidity strikes again...

Hbsr made his point CLEAR that damage with boss jewels and hero stats + full buffs versus... What robe? If it's not an equal hero full buffed WITH ARCANA ROBE you aren't talking.

akatsaki just likes to argue people because he didn't understand my point.

You know atlant doesn't know much but he is right. Sph has the best dps with cdl, but if it's not available, the sps kicks asses, go search on other forums, i am not in the mood of searching anything for you.

Ah btw i like that server with Me -> shit. I think that server is crappy too. Why? From 2k dmg to 8k dmg? NOT... Dumbass... He was in avadon robe omg... You landed hex on him and that means like he had a karmian robe at total pdef. Hey even so, why didn't you screenshot who you killed, how can i know you killed a mage in avadon and not a newbie in ng?

CURSED MAN IS THE MOST POWERFUL SUMMON IN L2. You are completely hopeless. DISASTER.

You said buffer does more damage than destro... Go figure, previous page, atlant was praying hoping you're not the biggest noob around here. :)

I fail so much? Dude, go play real l2. You come with that fluke screenshot with some damage on it and say i fail. :D Come on you say you're intelligent. Be more creative at least, because if you were intelligent and you weren't making fakes, you would have included the mage in your screenshot. :D


OOH ALMOST FORGOT. Go read the c5 release features. It sais there 'dagger blow damage has been decreased, and success rate has been increased'. Freak...
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And I saw how HE can crit 16k, think if PR crit same target same buffs.

I knew he's a noob. He critical damage passive is lvl 2. Pr critical damage passive is lvl 2 also. You think 1 str makes +1k damage or... What?


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Icarus wrote:
akatsaki just likes to argue people because he didn't understand my point.

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And I saw how HE can crit 16k, think if PR crit same target same buffs.

I knew he's a noob. He critical damage passive is lvl 2. Pr critical damage passive is lvl 2 also. You think 1 str makes +1k damage or... What?


Hi again, I'm peace man, don't look at me like at devil please, ok? thanx

HE-2 crit power,1 crit chance
PR-3 crit power

and ever heared about Dead Eye?

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1st of all noobie...
PR has deadeye but seems u don't know that...+20% crit dmg..
Also, u seen many newbies with NG in FG or....?

Also noob, backstab has way more power than Deadly...lol
And can land double damage....xD

And what are you talking about full buffs + hero buffs etc ???
It's siege dude....thats what a good clan/ally is gonna have xd
But in ut lolL2J you never saw that...

Also mr newb, That Me ---> shit is custom systemmsg....xD dork

Reason ava boy isn't in my screenshot is cuz I didn't have time to?
I have a GH full buffed on my ass? xD

And cursed man isn't strongest summon in L2?
You should get some INFO before posting SHIT.....cuz it is. xD

Also, I said I DID more damage on destro than on BUFFER...
Shows you didn't even read my post....dumbass xD

Now bring me proof of what you're saying...
Gimme proof that HE CANT do 6+ hit....
Gimme proof that backstab CANT do 6k+...
Gimme proof that SPS has higher DPS than others..

Ofc you cant gimme proof....cuz you're just talking outa ur ass :3


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1st of all noobie...
PR has deadeye but seems u don't know that...+20% crit dmg..
Also, u seen many newbies with NG in FG or....?

Also noob, backstab has way more power than Deadly...lol
And can land double damage....xD

And what are you talking about full buffs + hero buffs etc ???
It's siege dude....thats what a good clan/ally is gonna have xd
But in ut lolL2J you never saw that...

Also mr newb, That Me ---> shit is custom systemmsg....xD dork

Reason ava boy isn't in my screenshot is cuz I didn't have time to?
I have a GH full buffed on my ass? xD

And cursed man isn't strongest summon in L2?
You should get some INFO before posting SHIT.....cuz it is. xD

Also, I said I DID more damage on destro than on BUFFER...
Shows you didn't even read my post....dumbass xD

Now bring me proof of what you're saying...
Gimme proof that HE CANT do 6+ hit....
Gimme proof that backstab CANT do 6k+...
Gimme proof that SPS has higher DPS than others..

Ofc you cant gimme proof....cuz you're just talking outa ur ass :3


should be more politly, but anyway...

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Also mr newb, That Me ---> shit is custom systemmsg....xD dork


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dps doesn't means only m.atk + cast speed.. dps means intrerupted casts too.. so SpS = highest dps. end of story.

SpS highest cast speed and men
SH lowest cast speed and men
Who do u think will make more dmg per second on overall ?


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Interrupts? Sif you can get uninterrupted with 1,5k c speed...
If you count DPS with interrupts on mages...
Same way you should count miss's in fighters..
And no1 counts misses on DPS afair :3


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Exactly... It's hard talking to assholes...
mariosxx wrote:
1st of all noobie...
PR has deadeye but seems u don't know that...+20% crit dmg..
Also, u seen many newbies with NG in FG or....?

Also noob, backstab has way more power than Deadly...lol
And can land double damage....xD

And what are you talking about full buffs + hero buffs etc ???
It's siege dude....thats what a good clan/ally is gonna have xd
But in ut lolL2J you never saw that...

Also mr newb, That Me ---> shit is custom systemmsg....xD dork

Reason ava boy isn't in my screenshot is cuz I didn't have time to?
I have a GH full buffed on my ass? xD

And cursed man isn't strongest summon in L2?
You should get some INFO before posting SHIT.....cuz it is. xD

Also, I said I DID more damage on destro than on BUFFER...
Shows you didn't even read my post....dumbass xD

Now bring me proof of what you're saying...
Gimme proof that HE CANT do 6+ hit....
Gimme proof that backstab CANT do 6k+...
Gimme proof that SPS has higher DPS than others..

Ofc you cant gimme proof....cuz you're just talking outa ur ass :3

You aren't polite... Why sould i be?

1st of all NOOB... BACKSTAB POWER IS LESS THAN DEADLY.
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/race_ ... yss_walker Power 5479.
vs
http://www.lineage2.com/Knowledge/race_ ... ost_hunter Power 5773.
GO FIGURE.

You see, cursed man isn't the ultimate summon. It's the tank-type summon moron. Patk, matk, speed and regen are weaker. Patk and matk are waaay weaker.

I am talking about hero/unhero buffs w/e because i can demonstrate how i do 100k damage with a backstab if i want to. Heard the word 'gremlin' or 'elpy'?

The screenshot thing is not an excuse. At this point you didn't demonstrate NOTHING.

Also ms fag, that Me -> thing i just said I LIKE IT, i didn't say it comes from a new server, and believe me... I know better what's customisable in a server and what's not. You just have no idea what you can do to a server.

Also... You should read your destro post again.

The proof is on its way. Next days i will make lvl 78 on a c4 l2off version that l2dex used. I will show you what a backstab means with EQUAL buffs.

Till then just wait and bleed... You know i'm right. Can't wait to wipe the floors with you on this forum. You are a shame.


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You're a failure sir =/
And yes, I did read my destro post again...
How come everyone understands it but you? :O dumb :<

Also , cursed man is the strongest summon...
Best p att and crit rate .....just low HP.... :O
ONLY summons that have higher p att than cursed man
are Interlude 3rd class summons for summoners...
AND THEY STILL have lower crit rate...

100k dmg on Elpy? good for you...
I can show you 10k backstab on A grade playah :O

And still, you are so dumb that you forget the basic damage factor for
BS....double damage....and rate is good for that :3

Also, you are such a dork... Backstab and deadly blow are supposed to
have same power in the end xD So u ain't right even on that...
The skill which u showed us...is Lethal ........lolnub
But with PoW and FD you do more damage from behind...
So, backstab is ur top skill...

Also, equal buffs? what do you mean EQUAL BUFFS?
Daggers and archers aren't good unless fully buffed...
You can raise ur crit damage...mages cant raise their p def much..
Get some brains plx

Imo, I win again...you cant support ur lolfacts....
Everyone playing on C5off server knows I'm right :3


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For you...
Backstab on DC robe... :)

http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... va2zk1.jpg

And you're right...
Daggers cant do more than 5k backstabs :/ lol...XD

Thats Devianne AW hero...
And ye Offi is SO L2J that u gonna doubt :P

edit: I dont care if he was unbuffed, hexed or w/e...
Still...he got 24k right in the ass :p


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mariosxx wrote:
For you...
Backstab on DC robe... :)

http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... va2zk1.jpg

And you're right...
Daggers cant do more than 5k backstabs :/ lol...XD

Thats Devianne AW hero...
And ye Offi is SO L2J that u gonna doubt :P


This was nice, really nice :) GH rulz


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