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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:51 pm 
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So , i cant understand how i with a tyrant in oly can kill a destro :/ (isnt important to killl him , only to win the match , btw i guess that i mustnt make him dmg to 30% )

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If u only want to make dmg to him - wolf totem u are faster and u use only blasters + raging force ( or whatever it was ) destro has 2 choises i`ll finish a bit later :) ...

Now there are few ways that a destro can play VS a Tyrant.

1. VS a naab tyrant - both melle classes go head to head pvp melle style. Tyrant spam skills destro just hits w8ing for frenzy. Frenzy come tyrant (not so extremly noob) starts running - destro get the bow out and killes him in a few shots.

2. VS a smart tyrant - tyrant using wolf. running and spaming force blaster and bow shots ( if still not GK, if u are GK already u use raging force ) The destro being an expirienced worrior will give up the idea to chase u and get the bow out and shoot until its time for guts. The tyrant will make more dmg with his skills than the destro on bow. So eventualy the destro goes on 30% and hits GUTS + zealot + battle roar ( being a smart destro ) So now he gets a little HP back + boost in walk speed + big boost in p.def.
Now there are 2 ways to play tyrant in this situation depending on what armor and dyes u use. Usualy all tyrant must have +4dex -4str the other 2 dyes are not so important.

a. Light armor tyrant - Use puma and hope for evading the shots of the destro wile spaming skills on him ( ranged sklles )
BTW not everyone knows that tyrant blasters are stronger than the glads blasters in power. So its essential for all tyrants to know that they are more ranged attackers and use melle skill only when they have to.

b. Heavy armor using tyrant ( those type of tyrants usualy use another p.stat dye +5con -5str = -9str +4dex +5con ) Now for the armor lets say the max is IC set. ( the new S80 is shit btw, dunno for the higher grade of s80 might be a bit more usefull ) Now in heavy u cant use evasion so thats why u have all those totems :). In heavy the HP u lost in the fight until the destro reached 30% is less than with light armor so i propose a running taktic Rabbit and run around for a minute and a half ( until guts wear out ) after 60 secs the destro has no more ZEALOT meanig no more run speed boost than u switch to wolf and charge your focus. After another 30 secs GUTS is down, He will be forced to turn FRENZY+RAGE on for a last try. When u see that happening start spaming skills his p.def is lowered by the RAGE his run speed is slow. Now is only a matter of time before u kill him. He cant catch u so its done unless u go out of mana :) than its the old melle style combat after the frenzy and rage wears out ( another 90 secs ). After frenzy and rage wear out put on the bison totem + zealot + u might save a few charges for force barrier and in 10 sec u`ll be a winner.

well thats basicly all - for destro use wolf totem :) > rabit totem> wolf totem again and if the mana runs out - bison totem + zealot + force barrier

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duuuude i think you're the only tyrant that I've seen wearing heavy armor :))

tyrants are made for light, so let's say not IC but Draco, as for items.

And if a smart destro(titan) uses a correct weapon before using frenzy, zealot, rage and battle roar then the Gk si dead dead dead. and just for fun frenzy doesn't work with bows. but rage and zealot combined with bow are great so bye bye GK another plus for titan.

see it's easy to say do that and that, but u would never know what the opponent will do, oly are way different than any other pvp fight. I've killed mages and fighters as destro only with 1h blunt and shield, that means not using crush of doom, and if u get a dumb tyrant that modifies it's con it's even easier. but as a tyrant u have a slight advantage over mages. but lower over some fighters.


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duuuude i think you're the only tyrant that I've seen wearing heavy armor :))

tyrants are made for light, so let's say not IC but Draco, as for items.

And if a smart destro(titan) uses a correct weapon before using frenzy, zealot, rage and battle roar then the Gk si dead dead dead. and just for fun frenzy doesn't work with bows. but rage and zealot combined with bow are great so bye bye GK another plus for titan.

see it's easy to say do that and that, but u would never know what the opponent will do, oly are way different than any other pvp fight. I've killed mages and fighters as destro only with 1h blunt and shield, that means not using crush of doom, and if u get a dumb tyrant that modifies it's con it's even easier. but as a tyrant u have a slight advantage over mages. but lower over some fighters.


All of my l2 expirience is mainly on ORCs i love thats race :) i played each class for over an year even more i mean OL-2 years destro-1.5 years TY-1 year. Believe me yes i`m the only one using a heavy armor and winning with it :) btw there is the option for draco too - in 1. Light armor user...

Destro is slow in CT1 maybe he can compensate for it with OTB but still cant reach the rabit of the TY. I love destros dont get me wrong but against a TY he cant do nothing. VS glad is easier even with his sonic move and heavy armor mastery. However yes u gotta try it to find out if it works for u too, for me it does i never lost to slow fighters ( destro,WL )

True a TY with a modified CON is an easy play but modified in -CON. I plus my CON and get even more from the heavy armor bonus.

For mages with my tyrant i use Doom heavy set +3 con +5 con dyes - than its only force blaster and raging force.

Different players different playstyle :) u tell me how will u opese my "smart tyrant" when he is faster than u. give me your taktic VS a tyrant with 180wolf, 200+rabit speed. The tyrant will do u decent dmg with skills even in rabit cause for his skills POWER is important not so much p.atack.

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BeAGentleman wrote:
@paagrio a little something to add to your posts :D

YOu can`t compete in OLympiad if you are not 3d class :)
ANd i`m sure by the time you make nobles you`ll have time to do 3d class for the tyrant :)


True but who said u`ll be GK 78 with raging force :) ? the remark was speacialy for that skill ;) which charges your force and inflicts dmg. U might be GK lvl 77 and still have to use the bow :)

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duuuude i think you're the only tyrant that I've seen wearing heavy armor :))

tyrants are made for light, so let's say not IC but Draco, as for items.

And if a smart destro(titan) uses a correct weapon before using frenzy, zealot, rage and battle roar then the Gk si dead dead dead. and just for fun frenzy doesn't work with bows. but rage and zealot combined with bow are great so bye bye GK another plus for titan.

see it's easy to say do that and that, but u would never know what the opponent will do, oly are way different than any other pvp fight. I've killed mages and fighters as destro only with 1h blunt and shield, that means not using crush of doom, and if u get a dumb tyrant that modifies it's con it's even easier. but as a tyrant u have a slight advantage over mages. but lower over some fighters.


All of my l2 expirience is mainly on ORCs i love thats race :) i played each class for over an year even more i mean OL-2 years destro-1.5 years TY-1 year. Believe me yes i`m the only one using a heavy armor and winning with it :) btw there is the option for draco too - in 1. Light armor user...

Destro is slow in CT1 maybe he can compensate for it with OTB but still cant reach the rabit of the TY. I love destros dont get me wrong but against a TY he cant do nothing. VS glad is easier even with his sonic move and heavy armor mastery. However yes u gotta try it to find out if it works for u too, for me it does i never lost to slow fighters ( destro,WL )

True a TY with a modified CON is an easy play but modified in -CON. I plus my CON and get even more from the heavy armor bonus.

For mages with my tyrant i use Doom heavy set +3 con +5 con dyes - than its only force blaster and raging force.

Different players different playstyle :) u tell me how will u opese my "smart tyrant" when he is faster than u. give me your taktic VS a tyrant with 180wolf, 200+rabit speed. The tyrant will do u decent dmg with skills even in rabit cause for his skills POWER is important not so much p.atack.
and what about tallum heavy ? i use tallum heavy on my ty and btw my pw hero is the fastest char in l2 world , except gm's superhaste ...

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Tallum heavy is more for PVE than pvp. About the PW - yea with blinding blow he is the fastest char in l2 :)

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Tallum heavy is more for PVE than pvp. About the PW - yea with blinding blow he is the fastest char in l2 :)
and what archer should i make with destro ? i was thinking of sr but with destro a pr would be better , what u think ?

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I don't how were people with ideas to wear heavy while char performed to wear light (maybe you didin't know that light=not only set, but if you wear it, your abilitys at that mastery coming better like more evation and etc.) so how they were capable at installing l2 if they talking retard things like that. Maybe nuker should use bw light not avadon? bw +15 % cast speed + more p def+m def? so sad

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I don't how were people with ideas to wear heavy while char performed to wear light (maybe you didin't know that light=not only set, but if you wear it, your abilitys at that mastery coming better like more evation and etc.) so how they were capable at installing l2 if they talking retard things like that. Maybe nuker should use bw light not avadon? bw +15 % cast speed + more p def+m def? so sad
OMG with my sr i have majesti light set and tallum heavy set ... i always use for tallum cuz 1 reason is there are around 75% mages .
So what the sets give me :

Majestic light
P. Atk. +8% good on pr but on sr the atk.spd is more important
MP +240 i have mp pots
Stun Resistance +50% yeah very useful vs mages ...
DEX +1 CON -1 good dyes
+evasion ... very usefull ... u cannot avoid magic skills with evasion

Tallum plate
Atk. Spd. +8% i come to 1,2k atk.spd with it (not fullbuffed)
Poison and Bleed Resistance +80% not so usefull , maybe bleed resist is good vs delfs ...
STR +2 CON -2 = 25% of the maj patk bonus

well evasion is maybe your reason for maj but i dont need it ...

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akatsaki wrote:
I don't how were people with ideas to wear heavy while char performed to wear light (maybe you didin't know that light=not only set, but if you wear it, your abilitys at that mastery coming better like more evation and etc.) so how they were capable at installing l2 if they talking retard things like that. Maybe nuker should use bw light not avadon? bw +15 % cast speed + more p def+m def? so sad


Another Pro i wonder have u played tyrant ever in your life and do u know how much evasion u have in light armor with 28 dex :) guese u dont have a clue.

About atlant i wold go for SR this time true a DE crit is a tons of dmg but a SR will make few crits for the same time and still make more dmg than the DE so maybe SR is better.

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akatsaki wrote:
I don't how were people with ideas to wear heavy while char performed to wear light (maybe you didin't know that light=not only set, but if you wear it, your abilitys at that mastery coming better like more evation and etc.) so how they were capable at installing l2 if they talking retard things like that. Maybe nuker should use bw light not avadon? bw +15 % cast speed + more p def+m def? so sad
OMG with my sr i have majesti light set and tallum heavy set ... i always use for tallum cuz 1 reason is there are around 75% mages .
So what the sets give me :

Majestic light
P. Atk. +8% good on pr but on sr the atk.spd is more important
MP +240 i have mp pots
Stun Resistance +50% yeah very useful vs mages ...
DEX +1 CON -1 good dyes
+evasion ... very usefull ... u cannot avoid magic skills with evasion

Tallum plate
Atk. Spd. +8% i come to 1,2k atk.spd with it (not fullbuffed)
Poison and Bleed Resistance +80% not so usefull , maybe bleed resist is good vs delfs ...
STR +2 CON -2 = 25% of the maj patk bonus

well evasion is maybe your reason for maj but i dont need it ...


well, I think that server you are playing in is crap, becouse 75% mages in server is way to much. Mj light still better in my pow. +8% of attack is good and buy beter juwlery or try to OE it becouse in all other opurtunities light armor mastery>heavy armor whatever the armor would be

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akatsaki wrote:
I don't how were people with ideas to wear heavy while char performed to wear light (maybe you didin't know that light=not only set, but if you wear it, your abilitys at that mastery coming better like more evation and etc.) so how they were capable at installing l2 if they talking retard things like that. Maybe nuker should use bw light not avadon? bw +15 % cast speed + more p def+m def? so sad


Another Pro i wonder have u played tyrant ever in your life and do u know how much evasion u have in light armor with 28 dex :) guese u dont have a clue.

About atlant i wold go for SR this time true a DE crit is a tons of dmg but a SR will make few crits for the same time and still make more dmg than the DE so maybe SR is better.


Wearing heavy while should wear light shows your PRO.
And Pro tyrant forgot agile movment skill? speed and acuracy increasing using light armor

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akatsaki wrote:
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akatsaki wrote:
I don't how were people with ideas to wear heavy while char performed to wear light (maybe you didin't know that light=not only set, but if you wear it, your abilitys at that mastery coming better like more evation and etc.) so how they were capable at installing l2 if they talking retard things like that. Maybe nuker should use bw light not avadon? bw +15 % cast speed + more p def+m def? so sad
OMG with my sr i have majesti light set and tallum heavy set ... i always use for tallum cuz 1 reason is there are around 75% mages .
So what the sets give me :

Majestic light
P. Atk. +8% good on pr but on sr the atk.spd is more important
MP +240 i have mp pots
Stun Resistance +50% yeah very useful vs mages ...
DEX +1 CON -1 good dyes
+evasion ... very usefull ... u cannot avoid magic skills with evasion

Tallum plate
Atk. Spd. +8% i come to 1,2k atk.spd with it (not fullbuffed)
Poison and Bleed Resistance +80% not so usefull , maybe bleed resist is good vs delfs ...
STR +2 CON -2 = 25% of the maj patk bonus

well evasion is maybe your reason for maj but i dont need it ...


well, I think that server you are playing in is crap, becouse 75% mages in server is way to much. Mj light still better in my pow. +8% of attack is good and buy beter juwlery or try to OE it becouse in all other opurtunities light armor mastery>heavy armor whatever the armor would be
he for draconic , pr for maj and sr for tallum , for your pr i agree the maj light

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he for draconic , pr for maj and sr for tallum , for your pr i agree the maj light


HE/SR Drac, PR MJ

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