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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:02 pm 
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mmm i have AW 7x too...
on siege clan wanted me with HE tho...

And anyway as friends told me, L2Dex is corrupt to the bone...
You remember L2P? Many ppl moved there from Dex back then afair...
Cuz some issue with bug ambushing and some bans....
I wouldn't play at a corrupt server.....ever...
And once corrupt always corrupt <-- that goes for L2P as well ;d

And anyway, mellee classes aren't good in sieges...
I don't doubt that a good dagger would do some shit there...
But cant cope with archers...
Cuz as you all know, a siege is the only place u can easy have
full stacked parties...giving boss jewels accordingly etc...

Thing is, if you play on a server where most people are mages
dagger will be good everywhere....


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:06 pm 
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l2dex was corrupt to the bone.

And trust me.. [money > lineage] even on retail :/


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KentZ0ne wrote:
l2dex was corrupt to the bone.

And trust me.. [money > lineage] even on retail :/
thats why all donators owns , i hope i dont go too much offtopic but money rulz the world :wink:

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Firstly Kent, thanks for backing me up, i wouldn't have had the calmness.

Secondly, mario, dex is not corrupt anymore. There was sometime when dex was begining to be corrupted, but that issue got resolved a looong time ago. GMs are not corrupt out there, i saw some things being said about Shade, and i pretty much know him from other forums... He isn't corrupt.
Catalin has extra attention on corruption.
You doubt dex? Check what Kent said. Maybe this interlude thing wasn't a bright idea but you must know that extra care will be taken. Be sure.

If you play a server in which people are MAGES? Well... If people are only sorcs and sps daggers won't do that well. You just don't understand... You think daggers clearly owns some classes, but that isn't right. When you play daggers for example for a long period of time... You get to know your weaknesses very well. Sometimes i get a sps to relax from the dagger's lifestyle, and when i come vs daggers, i must admit... I have an edge vs them because their weaknesses is my power.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:01 pm 
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Just lol
And as is said, once corrupt always corrupt.

Also, with right buffs every mage is 1 backstab...
whatever equips/buffs he has... so pfff..

And the fact you kill daggers with ur lolSps...
what ?You find exp-ing tags and kill em? so what? lol
Also, mages don't get stacked easily so daggers kill em easily...
Archers get stacked quite easier...
Thats why full support archer party rarely loses...
WHATEVER party the enemy is...
You can nullify a lolnuker's damage with resists...
You CANT nullify a 3k arrow on your ass....ain't that simple?
You CAN nullify mage's damage and curses land rates...
You CANT nullify an 6k dmg backstab by buffed AW w/ PoW/cat/dance...

Now you get it? Thats why all-mage servers suck..
No end-game pvp...Thats why mage servers suck balls :lol:

Also, Necro is best char for ganking in L2....
Nicely equipped necro can kill 2/3/4 chars if he starts them...
Only class that does that easily...
Sps can't....
A necro can try anchor/cod/coa...hell, he can even try slow..
Fact is, with TP he will stay ALIVE till then...
Needs way more time for dagger ton kill necro...
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6k damage backstab... I really don't know what servers you have played, but i assure you, if it's vs a mage with similar equip, the dagger will to around 1.5k-2k damage per hit from the front, and of course much more damage from the back. But NOT 6k. That damage is insane, MAYBE if the mage is 61 and the gh 80. I suggest you play on better servers.

You can nullify a nuke damage. You CAN'T nullify an arrow in your ass? I tell you that you can. You know there are some buffs called... Shield, earth chant... Heard of them? 3k damage again by an arrow in your ass? A bow critical isn't THAT strong. A bow crit won't just suck away half of my hp. It's maybe a 2k damage with vicious stance on.

Necro best ganking mage? I can tell you that the sps can kill those 1/2/3 chars that you are talking about. Ever heard of running back/attacking again? No, you and your necro just like to STAY and rely on your transfer pain. One day you're gonna forget about that transfer pain and get juiced up. The damage output of the sps is the highest of all mages.

A dagger may kill the necro harder, but then... What's the damage output of the necro comparing to the sps? If necro had something like ice/fire/wind vortex, he would have been very good. But he hasn't...


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6k damage backstab... I really don't know what servers you have played, but i assure you, if it's vs a mage with similar equip, the dagger will to around 1.5k-2k damage per hit from the front, and of course much more damage from the back. But NOT 6k. That damage is insane, MAYBE if the mage is 61 and the gh 80. I suggest you play on better servers.

You can nullify a nuke damage. You CAN'T nullify an arrow in your ass? I tell you that you can. You know there are some buffs called... Shield, earth chant... Heard of them? 3k damage again by an arrow in your ass? A bow critical isn't THAT strong. A bow crit won't just suck away half of my hp. It's maybe a 2k damage with vicious stance on.

Necro best ganking mage? I can tell you that the sps can kill those 1/2/3 chars that you are talking about. Ever heard of running back/attacking again? No, you and your necro just like to STAY and rely on your transfer pain. One day you're gonna forget about that transfer pain and get juiced up. The damage output of the sps is the highest of all mages.

A dagger may kill the necro harder, but then... What's the damage output of the necro comparing to the sps? If necro had something like ice/fire/wind vortex, he would have been very good. But he hasn't...
u said that sps have the higher dmg of all mages ... btw sph have higher

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In the begining of the siege,dagger classes are extreamly weak!!!In that stage,you can only wait.But i think that a bow could do good job.But i can also use my sub (mage).When the siege came to the stage where all chars ''mixed'',dagger class is better.But i do not know what class i am going to start with in the siege :roll:


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Icarus wrote:
6k damage backstab... I really don't know what servers you have played, but i assure you, if it's vs a mage with similar equip, the dagger will to around 1.5k-2k damage per hit from the front, and of course much more damage from the back. But NOT 6k. That damage is insane, MAYBE if the mage is 61 and the gh 80. I suggest you play on better servers.

You can nullify a nuke damage. You CAN'T nullify an arrow in your ass? I tell you that you can. You know there are some buffs called... Shield, earth chant... Heard of them? 3k damage again by an arrow in your ass? A bow critical isn't THAT strong. A bow crit won't just suck away half of my hp. It's maybe a 2k damage with vicious stance on.

Necro best ganking mage? I can tell you that the sps can kill those 1/2/3 chars that you are talking about. Ever heard of running back/attacking again? No, you and your necro just like to STAY and rely on your transfer pain. One day you're gonna forget about that transfer pain and get juiced up. The damage output of the sps is the highest of all mages.

A dagger may kill the necro harder, but then... What's the damage output of the necro comparing to the sps? If necro had something like ice/fire/wind vortex, he would have been very good. But he hasn't...

Dude seriously now, you're dumb :|
You really know shit about L2.....
And FYI my GH lvl 78 BSed a lvl 76 full buffed SH for 7k...
I have even done that dmg to light armors....
Maybe you have no idea what PoW, Cat blessing, fire, dw, focus death does lol...and I assure you, double damage backstab will be more then that xD On Interlude crit dmg got nerfed, but who the fuck plays interlude? All Interlude servers are buggy and laggy as Hell, and even L2J
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Also no, SH has better DPS than SPS when buffed....
Difference ain't that big when both classes are full buffed lmao
And Necro has a pet lol....and necro can run and hit too, can use summon
too...

And best thing...A BOW CRITICAL ISNT THAT STRONG?????????????
LOL? XD I have been hit for 8k on full C5Off server by full buffed/stacked
HE, but I see you play another game .....and rly u just say shit...


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adriano7 wrote:
In the begining of the siege,dagger classes are extreamly weak!!!In that stage,you can only wait.But i think that a bow could do good job.But i can also use my sub (mage).When the siege came to the stage where all chars ''mixed'',dagger class is better.But i do not know what class i am going to start with in the siege :roll:
you never heard of ue ?

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mariosxx wrote:
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And best thing...A BOW CRITICAL ISNT THAT STRONG?????????????
LOL? XD I have been hit for 8k on full C5Off server by full buffed/stacked
HE, but I see you play another game .....and rly u just say shit...


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:43 pm 
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HE full support/cat/cov/hero berz w/ draco +4 with Baium + AQ hit me
PS lvl 75 w/ DC robe set with buffs + greater shield (summon was dead)
For 7,4k damage..

Note that in siege there will be like 5-6 parties like that for each side...
And now tell me how will mages or daggers or w/e come close....
Even in a server where ppl don't have boss jewels, damage for such party
will be like 4-5k on robes and 3-4k on light armors...

I'll show u some pics later :p

Edit: Same day when archer crit me for 8k....
Destro crit my clan leader for 14k :p

Edit2: if you think i say bullshit, check l2 calc...

With the Interlude nerf (-15% crit dmg i think) that HE can crit
S grade robe fully stacked for 5k :) means like 6k in C5...
And imagine that most robe users use low A (DC whatsoever gives
more p def than MJ) and they have zerk mostly and not always stacked.
Still don't believe me ? :>

Imagine a PR on dead eye with C5 clan skills and FULL stacked...
Imagine what would he do on some A grade robe user...
If robe has just songs and buffs , PR would crit him for 9k in Interlude..
So imagine like...10-11k on C5 :P
Thats why C5 is archer chronicle and all clans aim to do that party.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:20 am 
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Now some info on backstab for Icarus.

With ch buffs + focus death...my AW hits A grade mages for 3k+ with BS
Mage gets shield 3 and zerk from CH, he can also get greater shield and earth song to get + p def....if he had all that I'd hit him for like 2,5k with VS
on BS...

Now lets see , from CH i get DW lvl 1 just...
So, what if I got DW 3 + fire dance + Blessing of queen 3 ?
Damage would be like 3,5k from 2,5+ THE LEAST....wouldn't it?
What if I got PoWind too? I wont even bring boss jewels into this discussion.

But I'll tell you that it would be AT LEAST!!!!!!!!! 4K Backstab. :)
What if I land double damage backstab? :)
Last times I did , I did 5k on EE, 5k on SH and 7k on destro :P
Try to prove me wrong...


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u make more dmg on destro than on buffer ? omg

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atlant448 wrote:
u make more dmg on destro than on buffer ? omg

Destro was maybe rezed and was unbuffed ionno...
But he was just on BW so heh... :P


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