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no dyes or +dex - con, if u have full epic (zaken/antharas) u can add also -con +str (the numbers you must choose wisely, if you are not pro dagger dont lower your con too much)

-8 con is fucking rapemachine on pvp, but get fast dead. it all dephends of reuse time of CP potions on your server.

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Hi, i just want to check how much things i need to pre - frenzy on oly. My idea: 1st: -18 con

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no dyes or +dex - con, if u have full epic (zaken/antharas) u can add also -con +str (the numbers you must choose wisely, if you are not pro dagger dont lower your con too much)

-8 con is fucking rapemachine on pvp, but get fast dead. it all dephends of reuse time of CP potions on your server.


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Banana wrote:
no dyes or +dex - con, if u have full epic (zaken/antharas) u can add also -con +str (the numbers you must choose wisely, if you are not pro dagger dont lower your con too much)

-8 con is fucking rapemachine on pvp, but get fast dead. it all dephends of reuse time of CP potions on your server.


sux advice -.-

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Shalana wrote:
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Dont change the dyes. AQ and baium make a big big difference, as well as dance of fury. Dont forget about the element attributes too, u may have a bad element thus doing lower dmg on pvp than u could.
Oh, and 5k u should reach easily on mages...



loltard stop posting bullshit how u atribute his a gr lol tard? u can only atribute s+


and forget thso c4 dyes whit -str on hb never i tell NEVER go -str it efect lethal chance dramaticly , also skill masteri chance is efected dramaticly u shuld nto cahnge anything or add a bit dex BUT NEVER -STR ON HB SERV!!!

stop talking bullshit about 3k dmg.. hb is dager new age the new damge era whti atributed angel slayer doing 10k+ to rabes if its dc robe coz u cant atribute it u have to use mA set if u want to lvie from dagers at hb+ :)


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So...
What exactly did you wanted to say?


that u guys are offering loltarded c4 dyes for dagers. and saing to atribute his mjl whit ss+cd..

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perfect dyes for daggers +5 dex -5 str +4 wit -4 int OR +4 dex -4 str +1 con -1 str +4 wit -4 int

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the perfect dyes for an aw are no dyes ;]


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personally i can't play as a dagger w/o dyes:)

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Marto0o wrote:
the perfect dyes for an aw are no dyes ;]


i think the same, just +WIT -INT he's pure balanced, anti stun - MJ - not +CON ;S

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i guess that u r one of those guys who can't craft their own draco set right?
u can't keep maj forever m8
ofc that +4 con sux too since it doesn't make such a big difference
best option.. +dex/wit dyes imho
and remember that aw/gh - glass canons which make them deadly but fragile

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i guess that u r one of those guys who can't craft their own draco set right?
u can't keep maj forever m8


For AW a +6 maje is much better than draco set .

Xmvp - wtf dex on AW. For what ? For +2 speed ??? And you drop what -STR ? You must be joking.

About dyes on AW :
+DEX - you will receive very low bonus
+CON - you will receive very low bonus
- STR - you will lose significant power and crit dmg
A nice AW will be only with +wit/-int dyes. Anyway if you feel that you need some dyes just try the small ones like +/- 2 or +/- 1 ones.
I have played AW and doing very well with this setup : +1str/-1 dex +1str/-1con and +4wit/-4int

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yeah, MJ>draco, but 1 thing miss.........

fucking atributes.
fucking gracias.

nukers pwn you before u get to shadow step distance (vortex+crusher and u die) if guy have am + empower augu
but draco make you valnurable on stuns...

no perfect solutions

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nothing is perfect :)
You need some good jwls and ofc the extra mdef from +6 will help.
If you reach the robe it will be GF in 1 sec .
Archers are more dangerous for daggers esp. the elf archer .That mofo can spam stun and run from you like a rabbit. (ofc I speak about AW class - a human dagger have solutions for both situations dash for robes and alot of CON so no stun problems for him)

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on UE, PW evade skills, TH on dash reach him fast, and AW can reflect skill.
Archers really sux if not on mass pvp/siege :/

anyway, now they pwn classes like warlord/deasto easily, just have to run around 4-5 mins... thats QQ when Im making 3rd circle around hot springs catching an archer ;p

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