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 Post subject: Adventurer skill enchant
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:26 pm 
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Can u answer me .. Which skills to enchant first to TH and with what .. low rate server ??


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:33 pm 
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I guess backstab for duel (first for element atk .. when you get it way higher, change on duel) & vicious stance +power :) w8 for for answers .

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:48 pm 
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imo either get backstab to a decent enchant, or go for fd and assassination, since they are 3rd class skills, therefore easier to enchant, and + crit power is always good


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:09 pm 
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backstab and deadly blow +element, after +20 duel.
bluff
lethal blow +duel
Focus Power +Back dmg
vicious stance +power
UE +duration
light armor passive +eva
boost eva
dagger mastery +crt dmg
assassination +crt rate
bleed +power/sap
sand bomb +chance

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:30 pm 
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IdooL wrote:
backstab and deadly blow +element, after +20 duel.
bluff
lethal blow +duel
Focus Power +Back dmg
vicious stance +power
UE +duration
light armor passive +eva
boost eva
dagger mastery +crt dmg
assassination +crt rate
bleed +power/sap
sand bomb +chance



basically this, except assassination is +crit dmg obviously lol -_-

and no one enchant bleed for sap ffs, only retards on retard servers imo...the only reason you would want to use bleed is vs fast classes that need some speed reducement, and for that you won't enchant that skill on sap rofl...


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:05 am 
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Makabre wrote:
IdooL wrote:
backstab and deadly blow +element, after +20 duel.
bluff
lethal blow +duel
Focus Power +Back dmg
vicious stance +power
UE +duration
light armor passive +eva
boost eva
dagger mastery +crt dmg
assassination +crt rate
bleed +power/sap
sand bomb +chance



basically this, except assassination is +crit dmg obviously lol -_-

and no one enchant bleed for sap ffs, only retards on retard servers imo...the only reason you would want to use bleed is vs fast classes that need some speed reducement, and for that you won't enchant that skill on sap rofl...

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and i would even leave this bleed, waste of books imo

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:17 pm 
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Makabre wrote:
imo either get backstab to a decent enchant, or go for fd and assassination, since they are 3rd class skills, therefore easier to enchant, and + crit power is always good


3rd class skills are hard to enchant if u're not 84-85 .

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and no one enchant bleed for sap ffs, only retards on retard servers imo...the only reason you would want to use bleed is vs fast classes that need some speed reducement, and for that you won't enchant that skill on sap rofl...


Bleed is good against most classes, not only the fast ones (drain cp/hp / interrupting magical skills too I think) :)

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer skill enchant
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:57 pm 
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@makabre : assassination is +crt rate, not +crt dmg. U can only enchant +Crt rate or +P.atk.
and Bleed is very awesome enchanted to +sap. (if u didn't tried it, u shouldn't talk).
As mvp said, bleed is not only vs high runners. It also cancels magical skills usage, remove hide, drain hp/cp and removes speed. Enchanted to sap, it gives u hp while it drains opponent's. (+30 is 100+hp, which will be felt)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:23 pm 
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awesome on rf bugland

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:24 pm 
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no, in RF it sucked a lot. It was magical skill lol

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:27 pm 
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Nothing like that lol. Shield was getting lotsa hp doing it from me

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer skill enchant
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:43 pm 
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cuz it was bugged like hell. i even posted pic here, in ATM Pics, with Magic Critical Hit when using bleed lol xD

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer skill enchant
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:03 pm 
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Xmvp wrote:
Makabre wrote:
imo either get backstab to a decent enchant, or go for fd and assassination, since they are 3rd class skills, therefore easier to enchant, and + crit power is always good


3rd class skills are hard to enchant if u're not 84-85 .

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and no one enchant bleed for sap ffs, only retards on retard servers imo...the only reason you would want to use bleed is vs fast classes that need some speed reducement, and for that you won't enchant that skill on sap rofl...


Bleed is good against most classes, not only the fast ones (drain cp/hp / interrupting magical skills too I think) :)



imo no one should even bother trying to enchant skills beforebeing at least 83, you waste lots of bogs for nothing cause of less chance...

the cp/hp drain is so useless it won't even bother...also at +30 sap it won't land so easy as in +30 chance...and the reduce speed effect is much better then the sap...btw in pvp you will barely use bleed to interrupt ANY magical skill, since you never think of that during pvp...i doubt anyone can remember/have time to cancel any enemy magical skill with bleed but whatever...

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@makabre : assassination is +crt rate, not +crt dmg. U can only enchant +Crt rate or +P.atk.
and Bleed is very awesome enchanted to +sap. (if u didn't tried it, u shouldn't talk).
As mvp said, bleed is not only vs high runners. It also cancels magical skills usage, remove hide, drain hp/cp and removes speed. Enchanted to sap, it gives u hp while it drains opponent's. (+30 is 100+hp, which will be felt)


hum ? oh well, last server where i enchanted dagger skills had + crit rate and + crit damage enchant routes only, not p att...guess it was bugged then...

dude, no one fucking enchants bleed for sap xD only in pvp servers...it fails because the bonus u get by having it +30 sap is not even close to be as good as +30 chance...100 hp every some seconds is nothing for a dagger ffs, it won't help you at all jesus...

btw i wonder how can u remove hide with bleed :x are u saying that a target that has bleed on, uses hide and then it disappears when hp is drained ? or you use bleed and your target just loses his hide magicaly xD ?

EDIT: btw idool, did you EVER enchanted bleed to +30 sap, out of raidfight LOOOL ?? where it was magical skill xD ? then don't talk bout shit you don't know about...


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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer skill enchant
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:43 pm 
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Makabre wrote:
Xmvp wrote:
Makabre wrote:
imo either get backstab to a decent enchant, or go for fd and assassination, since they are 3rd class skills, therefore easier to enchant, and + crit power is always good


3rd class skills are hard to enchant if u're not 84-85 .

Makabre wrote:
and no one enchant bleed for sap ffs, only retards on retard servers imo...the only reason you would want to use bleed is vs fast classes that need some speed reducement, and for that you won't enchant that skill on sap rofl...


Bleed is good against most classes, not only the fast ones (drain cp/hp / interrupting magical skills too I think) :)



imo no one should even bother trying to enchant skills beforebeing at least 83, you waste lots of bogs for nothing cause of less chance...

the cp/hp drain is so useless it won't even bother...also at +30 sap it won't land so easy as in +30 chance...and the reduce speed effect is much better then the sap...btw in pvp you will barely use bleed to interrupt ANY magical skill, since you never think of that during pvp...i doubt anyone can remember/have time to cancel any enemy magical skill with bleed but whatever...


I made 2x skill (2nd class) +9 using 3x bog when I was 80 :) +9>10 = 74% chance
+0>1 for 3rd class skill = 54% chance if I remember well .. so its indeed worthless
As for the bleed skill, I was talking about olympiad games only :) can be useful in some situations ..

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 Post subject: Re: Adventurer skill enchant
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:14 pm 
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Xmvp wrote:
I made 2x skill (2nd class) +9 using 3x bog when I was 80 :) +9>10 = 74% chance
+0>1 for 3rd class skill = 54% chance if I remember well .. so its indeed worthless
As for the bleed skill, I was talking about olympiad games only :) can be useful in some situations ..



yeah ofc till +9 it's pretty easy even if you are lvl 79 and lucky...but more than that it's suicidal considering the exp loss...on those lvls you shouldn't be worrying about oe'ing skills since you will lose precious exp you need for higher lvls, and you will fail easier than on higher lvls...

it can be useful very rarely, but yes it can be used ofc...vs healers/summoners/nukers and some other classes it's always good to have -20% speed on them...


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