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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:53 am 
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hi pls tell what dyes should i put on a he in 15x server? and bop qr or cs?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:19 pm 
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+4 str -4 con
+4 dex -4con
and +1str-1con or +1dex-1con (your choice: critical or attack power)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:16 pm 
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i don't agree at all, SirAdrian, it depends on your play-style :)

1st: -5int +4wit is a must - resistance against sleep/root
2nd: for normal PvE -8con is ok but in PvP ... you'll have at least 1k less HP (+less CP), also -8con... everybody can stun you :) (we won't mention the luggage capacity)

what i would suggest:
- for PvE: +4str -4con, +4dex -4con, +4wit -5int (actually you don't need to buy expensive dyes for -4int)

- for PvP: +4wit -5int and +1wit -2int, and than experiments on your own:
= do not add anything else - hawkeye is the most balanced archer in the game
= try only +4str -4con OR +4dex -4con
= even try +4str -4dex (-dex does not much influence)
= or try lesser dyes like +2str -2con - you can still have not bad p.attack increase and very little HP/CP nerf

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P.S. if you are playing on custom build server with additional exotic tattoos and so on - use them in combination with dyes.
P.P.S. everything greatly depends on what boss jewels you have - if you have 100% stun resistance provided by antharas and zaken earrings - don't hesitate to set -8con (especially if you have valakas necklace -> additional HP)


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:14 pm 
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Kalidor wrote:
i don't agree at all, SirAdrian, it depends on your play-style :)

1st: -5int +4wit is a must - resistance against sleep/root
2nd: for normal PvE -8con is ok but in PvP ... you'll have at least 1k less HP (+less CP), also -8con... everybody can stun you :) (we won't mention the luggage capacity)

what i would suggest:
- for PvE: +4str -4con, +4dex -4con, +4wit -5int (actually you don't need to buy expensive dyes for -4int)

- for PvP: +4wit -5int and +1wit -2int, and than experiments on your own:
= do not add anything else - hawkeye is the most balanced archer in the game
= try only +4str -4con OR +4dex -4con
= even try +4str -4dex (-dex does not much influence)
= or try lesser dyes like +2str -2con - you can still have not bad p.attack increase and very little HP/CP nerf

happy shooting 8)

P.S. if you are playing on custom build server with additional exotic tattoos and so on - use them in combination with dyes.
P.P.S. everything greatly depends on what boss jewels you have - if you have 100% stun resistance provided by antharas and zaken earrings - don't hesitate to set -8con (especially if you have valakas necklace -> additional HP)

but the hawkeye is a damage dealer so he needs anything to boost his damage.so my suggestion for real damage is the one i stated.because with +5str you get 10% PAtk +4 dex you get 4%Speed 4%Crit 4%At Spd plus accuracy and evasion.with -9 con you lose 10400 weigth and some resistance to sleep,root,stun which can be complemented with good jewels.also for the best damage setup get plated leather set (THE HE set) which adds +4 str and -1 con so you'll have a total of +18%patk which is almost 1/5 more and with dex dye that gives you speed and attack speed you'll be able to be faster and stronger than your adversaries.get good jewels and mages won't touch you.and as for stun,archers can do that only if they are faster than you (but they're not because of your dyes) and melee fighters which have the disadvantage that they need to get close to you first which allows you for a stunshot and a critical/doubleshot/hamstring shot.
so i'm sticking to my combo for the best in pvp and pve.
and by the way,try adding a QR bow (bop ++++++ preferably not soubow) and see what you get.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:21 am 
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in fact con has nothing to do with root/sleep resistance
jewels have nothing to do with stun resistance too

to a he a +4 wit is a MUST die i believe

now the others i believe depend on the player's way
a He has not only the best dmg but the bigest health from all the other archers too. so cuting his con to increase his dex would rather balance him
i personally believe that you must raise the stat your class is best at,so if i ever put any more dye than +4 wit on my He it would be +str -dex


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:13 pm 
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in C5 sleep/root resistance was switched to men.

Antharas/Zaken DOUBLE your stun resistance; they don't give 100% resistance.


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If for a second we assume that someone knows* how to play a HE and archer play style in general then these are the his dyes:
+4 Str -4 Con
+4 Dex -4 Con
+1 Dex -1 Con
He will also carry majestic light and a Carnage++ with critical bleed SA or a Shyeed's Bow - Focus or a Draconic focus or a hero bow.....
As for jewels he will have Tateossian or Dungeon boss(baium,Ant Q,zaken)
But to get all this you must feel* the game and spend hours of playing..or...botting :P

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Serenity wrote:
If for a second we assume that someone knows* how to play a HE and archer play style in general then these are the his dyes:
+4 Str -4 Con
+4 Dex -4 Con
+1 Dex -1 Con
He will also carry majestic light and a Carnage++ with critical bleed SA or a Shyeed's Bow - Focus or a Draconic focus or a hero bow.....
As for jewels he will have Tateossian or Dungeon boss(baium,Ant Q,zaken)
But to get all this you must feel* the game and spend hours of playing..or...botting :P

which means +1 me :D

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SirAdrian wrote:
+4 str -4 con
+4 dex -4con
and +1str-1con or +1dex-1con (your choice: critical or attack power)


the advantage of the HE over the others archers is his CON so u cannot take it all like that -.- with +4 Dex -4Con; +1Dex -1Con = +5Dex -5Con u would still have more Con that all archers (SR, PR) and u would have -1Str than PR (w/o dyes) with -9con and +5str +4dex u would get lot p atk but if other archers hits u Pwns u cuz u have no Stun resistance xD less cp and less hp i've HE private server that i play and i used to have -9 con but when i try -5con i change it ^^ telling u its better :D

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btw for farm CS pvp QR but Draconic its better xD


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Crovean wrote:
SirAdrian wrote:
+4 str -4 con
+4 dex -4con
and +1str-1con or +1dex-1con (your choice: critical or attack power)


the advantage of the HE over the others archers is his CON so u cannot take it all like that -.- with +4 Dex -4Con; +1Dex -1Con = +5Dex -5Con u would still have more Con that all archers (SR, PR) and u would have -1Str than PR (w/o dyes) with -9con and +5str +4dex u would get lot p atk but if other archers hits u Pwns u cuz u have no Stun resistance xD less cp and less hp i've HE private server that i play and i used to have -9 con but when i try -5con i change it ^^ telling u its better :D

here is :P

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btw for farm CS pvp QR but Draconic its better xD


Yeah nice pic...if you knew about archers you would wear maj light..then again who does?... :arrow:

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Serenity wrote:
Crovean wrote:
SirAdrian wrote:
+4 str -4 con
+4 dex -4con
and +1str-1con or +1dex-1con (your choice: critical or attack power)


the advantage of the HE over the others archers is his CON so u cannot take it all like that -.- with +4 Dex -4Con; +1Dex -1Con = +5Dex -5Con u would still have more Con that all archers (SR, PR) and u would have -1Str than PR (w/o dyes) with -9con and +5str +4dex u would get lot p atk but if other archers hits u Pwns u cuz u have no Stun resistance xD less cp and less hp i've HE private server that i play and i used to have -9 con but when i try -5con i change it ^^ telling u its better :D

here is :P

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btw for farm CS pvp QR but Draconic its better xD


Yeah nice pic...if you knew about archers you would wear maj light..then again who does?... :arrow:


i've zaken so .. i preffer the draconic for atk speed and p def of S set ... ^^

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 pm 
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IMO best dyes for he are:
+4 dex -4con
+1 dex-1 con
and ofc if u want:
+4wit -4 int for better reuse of skills like nobl,summon cp e.t.c


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imo the dyes are
+4 dex -4 str
+1 dex -1 str
+4 con -4 str

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dyes on he with db focus pls


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+5 str -5 con
with the +4 dex too you will in a few hits.
nad hawkeye is the slowest of all archers, so he gains less bonuses from the +dex, so better get +str for more dmg.

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