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 Post subject: How To Build Tyrant For PVP???
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:13 am 
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Hii i'm newbie in this game..
i want to build tyrant for pvp oriented coz i think tyrant is very versatile class
i want tyrant pro to teach me everything for guide my tyrant in pvp

i see paaGRIO post in the other topic about tyrant n i think he's a PRO one n look like a life tyrant ensiklopedia, pls guide me

sorry for my english


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:54 am 
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Well i'm gonna start, because paagrio isn't exactly active these days.
I'm gonna tell you an endgame setup...

You should carry 2 weapons (this is especially available for oly). One health weapon, and one crt stun weapon. Stay put with your health weapon. When your hp drops under 60%, switch to crt stun, because at that time you will use bison totem and go melee. This is only available if your target doesn't have riposte stance toggle, be careful.
Bison totem gives you patk and crt rate. under 60% hp you have +100 crt rate. When you reach 30% hp, you will get +400 crt rate (that's almost 500 in total). At that point you activate frenzy and keep attacking. Your target will most likely be stunned most of the time. However, you know what happens if you're unlucky.
If you're up against a target with riposte stance (glad), you need to consider where you are stronger than him. You're stronger in your ranged attacks. Thus, keep him at a range, in force rage, force blaster, and the other ranged attacks. If he comes at you in sonic move, just stand your ground and get his ass. When he is near you, just do a hurricane assault, a cripple and run. If cripple landed, gratz, you may have won the pvp. Keep him off you.
This is effective against every melee char, especially dagger.

So, i told you the basic strategy. Remember, atk speed is your advantage. That's why you have a ranged edge over the gladiator, along with the fact that your ranged nukes are more powerful.
As a dye setup, use what the glad uses: +5str +4con -9 dex (or +5con and +4str, not a big difference). I know, you lose attack speed, but fist fury is there. So is puma totem. As an armor, ic set or tallum plate (depends on your preferences) if you want to give away your speed and evasion (this is good if you pvp a glad, you can't kite him), or draconic set if you're up against targets that require you to run (most mages, daggers, archers).

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:53 am 
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Tq for the information.
i wanna try the advice..

but -9 dex make alot of miss attack right?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:04 pm 
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Icarus wrote:
At that point you activate frenzy and keep attacking.


you mean zealot.

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Auf zealot sorry. I always mix them up.

@Cannz: don't worry, fists have blunt accuracy.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:09 pm 
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Sometimes u miss, but don't worry. If u earn bison totem spirit, u will kill everyone ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:40 am 
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Well now about tyrant it prety much depends on what server u play.
1. Chronicle
2. Enchant rate
3. Server specs - meaning does totems work with other weapons than fist.

So basic info for c4, c5, int, CT1- java or just not full: HIGH RATE

* Armors u have to use ( that depends on the overpowered char in the server: daggers,archers,mages - its different on every server )

+ high enchant rate means that the totems will have bigger effect so u must choose a combination of armor and skill to maximaze the bonus u preffer. I like to play my tyrants as tanks, meaning i`m slow but with a high p/m.def mainly for killing gladiators ( which i hate ), daggers, mages.
+ This mean i`ll choose the IC heavy armor that gives the biggest P.def bonus in the game ( 8% ) and combine it with the OGRE totem. That makes my P/M.def increase prety significantly and i can kill every mage, worrior and dagger ( if they dont lethal ofc :) )

*Weapon now thats a tricky thing, lets say that the totems don`t work without fist so we are stuck on it.

+ High p/m.def goes prety fine with lots of HP so use the DS:health as main weapon and fight only with skills. So what do we have until now :)?

IC heavy + OGRE + Health now we need dyes that will help u.

Lowering DEX on the chronicles i stated above doesn`t realy matter that much thou when u loose -5 DEX and add +5 CON and add to that the already lost speed bonus from the light armor. U`ll be prety slow even for mages and they have some long range spells ( good thing they usualy don`t know how to play so u`ll proly kill them :P , but archer will rape your ass, i mean HEs mainly ). So the dyes deppend on the enemies u`ll have to fight.

So tanker tyrant - IC heavy + OGRE + Health + 5CON -5DEX ( u`ll kill close combat units )

Now for the ppl that don`t know how to use bison :) this is a totem for close combat to maximize the DO ( damage output ). Always use bison with zealot and force barrier. The way to use them is:

+ bison totem + force barier + zealot ( if u feel Pro enought and u have no lag u can try to swap weapons: Health for Crit.stun, but u must realy be calm, have no lag, know when the time is right )

I can write a different play stile VS fast runners and mages that know how to play but :) no time now

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:56 am 
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i'm playing in Indonesia server and it is offical server, so i think it is same with international server.
Tanker tyrant type owning every closed range fighter n how about destroyer?
and give me tips againt archer pls :lol: :lol:

which one is important??
good weapon n armor first or Raid Boss jewelry??


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:39 am 
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Icarus wrote:
Well i'm gonna start, because paagrio isn't exactly active these days.
I'm gonna tell you an endgame setup...

You should carry 2 weapons (this is especially available for oly). One health weapon, and one crt stun weapon. Stay put with your health weapon. When your hp drops under 60%, switch to crt stun, because at that time you will use bison totem and go melee. This is only available if your target doesn't have riposte stance toggle, be careful.
Bison totem gives you patk and crt rate. under 60% hp you have +100 crt rate. When you reach 30% hp, you will get +400 crt rate (that's almost 500 in total). At that point you activate frenzy and keep attacking. Your target will most likely be stunned most of the time. However, you know what happens if you're unlucky.
If you're up against a target with riposte stance (glad), you need to consider where you are stronger than him. You're stronger in your ranged attacks. Thus, keep him at a range, in force rage, force blaster, and the other ranged attacks. If he comes at you in sonic move, just stand your ground and get his ass. When he is near you, just do a hurricane assault, a cripple and run. If cripple landed, gratz, you may have won the pvp. Keep him off you.
This is effective against every melee char, especially dagger.

So, i told you the basic strategy. Remember, atk speed is your advantage. That's why you have a ranged edge over the gladiator, along with the fact that your ranged nukes are more powerful.
As a dye setup, use what the glad uses: +5str +4con -9 dex (or +5con and +4str, not a big difference). I know, you lose attack speed, but fist fury is there. So is puma totem. As an armor, ic set or tallum plate (depends on your preferences) if you want to give away your speed and evasion (this is good if you pvp a glad, you can't kite him), or draconic set if you're up against targets that require you to run (most mages, daggers, archers).

Riposte or physical mirror, whatever..... those skills do not reflects weapons crit stun abilities. at least never got reflected back to me.
Vicious stance - Uses weapon to reflect incoming attacks. It reflects the damage received and has a chance to reflect buff/de-buff skill attacks.
physical mirror - A shield power that reflects back buffs/de-buffs one receives from physical skill attacks. An equipped shield is required to use this skill.
So i guess don't worry, your stuns wont be reflected.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:09 am 
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BigDaddyO wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Well i'm gonna start, because paagrio isn't exactly active these days.
I'm gonna tell you an endgame setup...

You should carry 2 weapons (this is especially available for oly). One health weapon, and one crt stun weapon. Stay put with your health weapon. When your hp drops under 60%, switch to crt stun, because at that time you will use bison totem and go melee. This is only available if your target doesn't have riposte stance toggle, be careful.
Bison totem gives you patk and crt rate. under 60% hp you have +100 crt rate. When you reach 30% hp, you will get +400 crt rate (that's almost 500 in total). At that point you activate frenzy and keep attacking. Your target will most likely be stunned most of the time. However, you know what happens if you're unlucky.
If you're up against a target with riposte stance (glad), you need to consider where you are stronger than him. You're stronger in your ranged attacks. Thus, keep him at a range, in force rage, force blaster, and the other ranged attacks. If he comes at you in sonic move, just stand your ground and get his ass. When he is near you, just do a hurricane assault, a cripple and run. If cripple landed, gratz, you may have won the pvp. Keep him off you.
This is effective against every melee char, especially dagger.

So, i told you the basic strategy. Remember, atk speed is your advantage. That's why you have a ranged edge over the gladiator, along with the fact that your ranged nukes are more powerful.
As a dye setup, use what the glad uses: +5str +4con -9 dex (or +5con and +4str, not a big difference). I know, you lose attack speed, but fist fury is there. So is puma totem. As an armor, ic set or tallum plate (depends on your preferences) if you want to give away your speed and evasion (this is good if you pvp a glad, you can't kite him), or draconic set if you're up against targets that require you to run (most mages, daggers, archers).

Riposte or physical mirror, whatever..... those skills do not reflects weapons crit stun abilities. at least never got reflected back to me.
Riposte stance - Uses weapon to reflect incoming attacks. It reflects the damage received and has a chance to reflect buff/de-buff skill attacks.
physical mirror - A shield power that reflects back buffs/de-buffs one receives from physical skill attacks. An equipped shield is required to use this skill.
So i guess don't worry, your stuns wont be reflected.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:21 am 
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BigDaddyO wrote:
Riposte or physical mirror, whatever..... those skills do not reflects weapons crit stun abilities. at least never got reflected back to me.
Vicious stance - Uses weapon to reflect incoming attacks. It reflects the damage received and has a chance to reflect buff/de-buff skill attacks.
physical mirror - A shield power that reflects back buffs/de-buffs one receives from physical skill attacks. An equipped shield is required to use this skill.
So i guess don't worry, your stuns wont be reflected.

Never played tyrant on such an extent as my gh. Haven't pvp'd many glads, but when i did, i didn't get the stun back, so you might be right.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:01 pm 
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step1= get fists and armors S80
step2= give em to new player that just started l2


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OMG.
Just because u hate tyrant do't start flame it in every existing topic because it starts to be pathetic...


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Shalana wrote:
OMG.
Just because u hate tyrant do't start flame it in every existing topic because it starts to be pathetic...


tyrant is pathetic not hating tyrants


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:08 pm 
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tsakpinis wrote:
Shalana wrote:
OMG.
Just because u hate tyrant do't start flame it in every existing topic because it starts to be pathetic...


tyrant is pathetic not hating tyrants


to be "pro" on tyrant you must have great skills which you dont have
as a fannyboy of he you just use attack on f1 and f2 on cp pots its so great philosophy that i couldnt learn it and propably ill never learn it


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