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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:31 pm 
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i wanna now what SA is better, depending on certain situations and for what classes so pls tell me, start with what u want :D.

I'll go fist: Nukers in pvp and in general : ACUMEN :D why? coz of Casting speed and in a pvp C speed is almost everything.

For tanks, if they wanna stick to their job, i'll say HEALTH, so they can last longer.

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what about archers or daggers? i'm always confused about them.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:55 pm 
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archer....focus...on A and S....and Daggers,Critical Damage


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For PvP - ACUMEN.
For mobs - MAGIC POWER (forget it about Empower).

Example:
Spellhowler (70 lvl) - SoM+3 with Magic Power - M.Atk. 833, Cast. 158
SoM+3 with Acumen - M.Atk. 666, Cast. 181

Nuker is DD (Damage Dealer) so important thing is DAMAGE, not CASTING.
Better is kill mob in 3 hits than in 5-6 hits (nukers must think about MP, in hard situation BtM is waste of time - only MP potions).
Besides, if Nukers don't have MP (and SE/EE to help), they can put Casting to lower part of body :D


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good point of view.

but what about buffers?

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:26 am 
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On buffers I would take BOMT (branch of mother tree) Conversion
Or a mana up, like desparion staff.
On rechargers, maybe Quick recovery
If I can't buy any of those, I can make do with acumen


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nononono dont choose convertion.. mana up is fine:) dont forget that u dont have greater heals like se/ee/bish(this is my opinion) so if u lower ur hp more:( hmm i dont like this.. bless the body outstands a bit the lowered hp.. but still u r buffer u can just buff+rest+buff+rest and so on.. some buffers even choose acumen SA..but lets say +30% mana is great(take the fact u can have greater cast spd pots+berserk if u r pp or u have pp in pt)

in pvp.. hmm best ofcourse is acumen-so if u r pp u can cast asap manaburn and bow(draconic+focus-for "gmshop" and bop+qr for low rates cuz to get smth like soul bow/carnage bow aint so easy at low rates)
For ol-acumen for sure(take blunt so u can use ur stuns)
SE-hmm i allawayes use convertion in pve and acumen in pvp-my job is to heal and root+shackle my enemyes..if im trying 1v1 carnage+manaup is gret cuz u can use it in pve and pvp(root_shackle_shoot till he dies)
I forgot another option(if ur role is only buff)-soes-bless the body(and one another staff-c grd- has that Sa but i dont remember:*(

maybe i frogot smth?hmm maybe EE(for me EE is more healer) ofcourse acumen for pvp and for pve.. choose acumen/convertion/mana up depends of ur playstyle-if there is only 1 healer/recharge-i go for convertion..if u have sws in pt go for acumen-great cast+u dont care about ur mana:)


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Ksin wrote:
For PvP - ACUMEN.
For mobs - MAGIC POWER (forget it about Empower).

Example:
Spellhowler (70 lvl) - SoM+3 with Magic Power - M.Atk. 833, Cast. 158
SoM+3 with Acumen - M.Atk. 666, Cast. 181

Nuker is DD (Damage Dealer) so important thing is DAMAGE, not CASTING.
Better is kill mob in 3 hits than in 5-6 hits (nukers must think about MP, in hard situation BtM is waste of time - only MP potions).
Besides, if Nukers don't have MP (and SE/EE to help), they can put Casting to lower part of body :D


very nice:)but still dont forget this+magical power=higher mp consumption!so choose mob sthath die in 2-3 nukes:)here ur r right
and for pvp i think all know that acumen is the only choice..


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GoDs3nD wrote:
Ksin wrote:
For PvP - ACUMEN.
For mobs - MAGIC POWER (forget it about Empower).

Example:
Spellhowler (70 lvl) - SoM+3 with Magic Power - M.Atk. 833, Cast. 158
SoM+3 with Acumen - M.Atk. 666, Cast. 181

Nuker is DD (Damage Dealer) so important thing is DAMAGE, not CASTING.
Better is kill mob in 3 hits than in 5-6 hits (nukers must think about MP, in hard situation BtM is waste of time - only MP potions).
Besides, if Nukers don't have MP (and SE/EE to help), they can put Casting to lower part of body :D


very nice:)but still dont forget this+magical power=higher mp consumption!so choose mob sthath die in 2-3 nukes:)here ur r right
and for pvp i think all know that acumen is the only choice..


Sometimes Magic Silence works well :p
SpS or Sorc. Mass PvP, Go to your enemies, spam Arua Flare/Bolt till Silence. BSOE.


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Don't forget about armor/equipment you are about to wear, especially on mage chars..

For attacking type of mages:
Spellhowler/Sorceror: NO acumen, but EMPOWER for M.Att
Spellsinger: NO empower, but acumen
Necromancer: Both acumen/empo have the same effects on
him, since hes the most balanced out of
them.

For support type of mages:
Prophet/Bishop
Shilien/elven Elders: Conversion is the trick since they both
have skills to block/stop the enemy's
movements.(root, etc..)

As far for the fighter type ones:

Archers:
For all of them, focus is the best choice, since there are no other
abilities that can aid them better than it (Cheap shot/QR are the
second in-choice abilities but they are way worse especially on
pvp, since you can have Focus on your bow).

Daggers:
Here, Critical Damage is the ONLY way to make it alive since it
raises by far the damage dealt, BUT Focus can help out too,
cause it takes some time for the re-use or if the landing of a blow
fails.

For tank types like Gladiator/Paladin and the likes of them, i haven't made any research on so i can't have a clear point on whats best for them, but from the info i heard Health/Attack Speed serve an important role on them.


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very usefull information, thank u all :D

what about a summoner? if he goes for a magic wepon or a fighter wepon?

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Spellhowler NO acu??? jaja cast is so slow :P i think sps must have empo and no acu, they have great casting ^^


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LiveAndLetDie wrote:
Don't forget about armor/equipment you are about to wear, especially on mage chars..

For attacking type of mages:
Spellhowler/Sorceror: NO acumen, but EMPOWER for M.Att
Spellsinger: NO empower, but acumen
Necromancer: Both acumen/empo have the same effects on
him, since hes the most balanced out of
them.

For support type of mages:
Prophet/Bishop
Shilien/elven Elders: Conversion is the trick since they both
have skills to block/stop the enemy's
movements.(root, etc..)

As far for the fighter type ones:

Archers:
For all of them, focus is the best choice, since there are no other
abilities that can aid them better than it (Cheap shot/QR are the
second in-choice abilities but they are way worse especially on
pvp, since you can have Focus on your bow).

Daggers:
Here, Critical Damage is the ONLY way to make it alive since it
raises by far the damage dealt, BUT Focus can help out too,
cause it takes some time for the re-use or if the landing of a blow
fails.
For tank types like Gladiator/Paladin and the likes of them, i haven't made any research on so i can't have a clear point on whats best for them, but from the info i heard Health/Attack Speed serve an important role on them.


u r wrong my friend.. empower is the worst SA ive seen...just waste of ur money.. best is magical power...
for pvp mage-all+acumen
for farmer-all +magical power+int etc etc..(u feel the difference?there are 2 types of mages... those who want to pvp and those who want to farm...)
EE can easly go +acumen cuz of clarity/high men and if u have sws with u.. ermm mana is not an issue!
bish/se-conversion(well bish has GBH so lower hp is not big prob for him in sticky situations and for SE-well low men=low mana so coversion ftw)
Best SA is not the focus.. well how many bows have +focus SA?maybe draconic?and?STOP ur gmshop shi7..QR is great SA-also is the cheap shot-it solves ur mana problems while u solo..
should i also remind u that daggers dont have 213123kk mana so dont forget that u wont "blow" all the time.. so for farmin Focus SA is powah..
necromancers balanced?my ass.. they are nerfed since t1.. and rly theyve never been balanced cuz of high dmg output and longevity(reanimated man ftw)-dont forget those 2 types of playstyle...
Tankers-ofcourse u shouldnt forget u r tank!Go + health for all
for the solo tank hmm focus is v good choice
for oly imo u should have couple of weapons-this is my option-healt/focus/and some weapon with SA like-critical haste and blabla i dont remember exactly those SAs-the trick is when u r at low hp u equip that weapon and u have rly rly better stats(like dle-crt dmg + angelic icon)
For summoners-good choice is +health weapon=more hp+transfer pain=pretty long standin there..ofcourse acumen is good option if u are gona pvp-faster heals/curses
good option is raid*raid(25% hp + duals have pretty nice dmg),another option is yaksa/war axe health.. its up to u now-choose the playstyle u like.
mana up for the farmer guy that has to heal his summon often..


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Vawned wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Ksin wrote:
For PvP - ACUMEN.
For mobs - MAGIC POWER (forget it about Empower).

Example:
Spellhowler (70 lvl) - SoM+3 with Magic Power - M.Atk. 833, Cast. 158
SoM+3 with Acumen - M.Atk. 666, Cast. 181

Nuker is DD (Damage Dealer) so important thing is DAMAGE, not CASTING.
Better is kill mob in 3 hits than in 5-6 hits (nukers must think about MP, in hard situation BtM is waste of time - only MP potions).
Besides, if Nukers don't have MP (and SE/EE to help), they can put Casting to lower part of body :D


very nice:)but still dont forget this+magical power=higher mp consumption!so choose mob sthath die in 2-3 nukes:)here ur r right
and for pvp i think all know that acumen is the only choice..


Sometimes Magic Silence works well :p
SpS or Sorc. Mass PvP, Go to your enemies, spam Arua Flare/Bolt till Silence. BSOE.


look at this-great choice is-sages staff(mag root)-hehe with my SH(dont laugh i just didnt have the adena for sowd+mag power) i made some guys to feel v stupid in pvp-especially daggers:D


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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:53 pm 
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If you're playing low rate server...

- Always on nukers acu wep, pve or pvp or w/e.
- On healer acu wep of course.
- On tanks, health weapon, focus wep if u solo a bit.
- Archers, A grade get carnage, dont SA it ofc lol...Draco focus later.
- Dagger, any critical damage SA weapon (pvp wise).
- Summoners, acu wep imo.
- Any buffer both mana up and acumen wep maybe.
- Tyrant get health fists and a bow for pvp. :P
- Destro needs, risk haste dagger for reuse. 2 handed for exp/pvp (focus)
- BH/WS haste weapon, not like it would make any difference.
- SwS 2 handed focus for exp, bow for pvp.
- BD any duals for dance and bow for pvp.
- Warlord, no :|

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