hi all

pls post some armor sets+weapon for a destro lvl 52-61 ... and argument it

ex: Zubei set (hp+/pdef+(without shield) other sets (B grade) give+con(bw and doom) and destro don't need con and ava give only +hp and pdef+ only with shield .... so ....
w: berseker(C) +++ and Foccus or g.sword
dyes ... idon't know ... pls post .. ty

armor : BW heavy
weapon : Guardian sword : focus / great sword : focus
dyes : +5 STR -5 CON

yes bw+those dyes does it great for destro .... ty man

Guardian sword doesn't have focus, so not that one ^^

BW heavy which gives +2 str
and I'd go for either Great sword focus or a Lance Crit stun

And then it depends if you need Dyes for pvp or pve.

For pve I'd go for +5 STR -5 DEX
But for pvp You need +4 WIT -4 INT and nothing more =P You can go for +str and -con but it's only good if you're doing buffed PVPs

btw bw heavy gives +3 STR ( -2 DEX -1 CON )
so 48 STR

True GarSword doesn`t have focus so thats my bad ( i never use it thou )

never lower dex on orc -5 dex + BW heavy (-2 dex ) u `ll have 19 DEX meaning u`ll miss like hell so u know

Reducing CON lowers the HP, A LOT and lowering the STR lowers the Patk A LOT, reducing the DEX doesn't affect the stats much. The destroyer has a couple of accuracy toggles so that's not a big problem.

+1! to lower con is like lower dex of the elves so go for -dex:)
but donno everything comes to playstyle maybe u have boxed se/bish and u dont give a crap about ur hp...but -con is stupid for me

U dont understand but anyway the advantage of the destroyer is when he is in frenzy to hit the target with normal hits ( not skills ) with 19 DEX u`ll have trouble hitting blue mobs with Ch buffs + tougles on. Not speaking about pvp do u think u`ll hit dagger / archer even once with that accurasy ? DEX and STR are PVE stats u dont lower them when u XP. On orcs specialy u never lower dex. Everybody knows that the destroyer biggest disadvantage is his low speed ( u want to decrese it even more ? ) make him a turtle that not only is slow but if he somehow manages to get to a target he`ll never hit it cause of the low accurasy. Again think before posting use calculators use search optio there are topics about that.

Lowering dex on whatever char is wrong u might have read some topics how gladiators lower DEX and since they do it all chars must do it well there are some differences. Glads use skills, destros use normal hits think about it.

Yep, I agree with PaaGrio. On every character you need the highest possible dex for easy leveling (except summoners, mages). When you change to your 3rd occupation you can change your dyes according to your needs.

If you pvp with normal hit's you're just stupid, if you do that just don't read the rest of my message.


The destroyer has a low base dex, which means, he will lose much less of every dex stat then any other fighter.

Lowering Con would mean that you lose way more HP/stun resistance/Pdef then any other character or race.

It's like if you went for +Men on a Spellhowler and lowered the INT, sounds stupid, right?

With -8 Dex you will lose 5.4 Acc, 7% atk spd and 7% speed which is about 10 running speed roughly counted. As a Destroyer you use the Armor Crush, Crush of doom and Fatal strike combo, which can take almost any player down in one swoop with a good gear and the right dyes.
Ofc course it's better to go -CON on a high rate server because you'll always run around with the best gear and fully buffed. That's not the case here.

With the right dyes and some buffs you can Pole your way through catacombs easily and get a high level in no time.

I realy wonder on what server u play and what chars u kill with armor crush + doom crush + fatal strike ? Maybe u wana tell what u are killing realy cause i can`t seem to think of a class that will die so easily - gladiators ( with dash ) , tyrants ( with wolf/rabit ) summoners ( with warrior bane ) , daggers ( with bow ) archers , mages ( with vortexes or maybe necros )

Maybe you speak for mages cause only they have HP low enought to be posible to die in 3 hits but the mage has 126 base speed u have 115 with -9 dex now get a vortex or slow -20/30% speed u think u have a chance ? Maybe u`ll get the bow in frenzy + zealot ? The bow is a weapon with low accurasy and your -9 dex u`l be lucky to hit him ( btw until that time u wont have a chance to him him cause he`s lot faster than u ) so what u`ll kill a mage on 4/5k HP + 1.5-2.5 k CP on 30% HP with bow ? Doubt that. Why do u think that the lower the stat is the lower the benefits get. Yea u loose less benefits on orc with -9 DEX than on elf with -9 dex but still its a critical mistake to think thats a good thing.

+ The guy is XP-ing never lower DEX or STR when u XP its stupid u get v rage and no CON problems -5 CON u still have 41 CON with BW heavy - u wont get stunned u wont loose too much hp on 30% if this is not convincing u i`m right i dunno. GL and HF

titan is a low speed char so lowering dex is a NO
lower con because he has enough to lower from

hmm paagrio is right about speed and all other shi7 but u will rly lose bunch of ur hp/reg speed/stun res etc etc and ofcourse -dex wont be so bad ofcourse and i rly think the best solution is NO DYES orcs have great basic stats for farming and pvping...im rly not good as paagrio in to orx but using a bit brains tells me that -8con is too much:(

First off, +CON ain't so bright in pvp, i can admit that, but an Orc with 41 COn has way less hp then a Human with 41 CON


The BW set gives you +7 speed, which is almost what you lose with a +4STR/-DEX dye + BW set.

AND even if you did put +DEX you wouldn't be close to catching up with any dagger or archer class. They have loads of passive skills which makes the quicker by nature.

In a Real pvp-fight with self buffs only the Destroyer will go for rage against any Mage at once, and then use the combo i was talking about. If the Armor Crush lands (which is likely on a make and with your STR) his Pdef will decrease with 33% and make your Crush of Doom power 7635 x 1.33 = 10155 and that + Fatal strike is well enough to bring down any Mage.