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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:48 pm 
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i would go for glad..natural tank enemy
tyrant is great too!mages are still IN-especialy SPS
destro is another great option 2

why?
well u all know what happens when u crit tss..
the prob here is the shield slam BUT it has first to land and second u can still try to keep distance with blasters and etc
tyrant is even more haxor cuz his nukes are powwaaaah + he has totem spirrits wich make him waaay faster than the heavy armored da
mages are in cuz of their high dps + slows and all the debuffs
the sps will make the DA turtle and will eaasly run away from the panther+has bleeding skill and cancel
the sorc has cancel 2,decay(dot) + fire vortex wich will decr tanks atk spd by 30%..lolz
the sh imo is less of a tank killer simply cuz he is a bit slower in casting,has lower wit(wich affects the root resistance) + his vortex wont help him at all
destro is the tank eater just cuz of his huge hp+stun res+high dps
the most n0b destroes forget about the reflect skill and sometimes they kill theirselves:D


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:01 pm 
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Actually glad isn't the natural enemy of the tank. The destro is. An sk or a tk can handle a glad if he's experienced. Ofc, here I'm talking about interrupting tss and dss with shield bash.

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Icarus wrote:
Actually glad isn't the natural enemy of the tank. The destro is. An sk or a tk can handle a glad if he's experienced. Ofc, here I'm talking about interrupting tss and dss with shield bash.

natural enemy of a tank = huge dps/hp char aka destro or even a dwarf can be a menice :))
that guy can kick yor nuts anytime of the day


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:24 pm 
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Natural enemy of tank means: 1. fixed damage 2. patk dependant 3. skills that ignore shield defence. Destro is the perfect answer. And so is kamael berserker.

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Icarus wrote:
Natural enemy of tank means: 1. fixed damage 2. patk dependant 3. skills that ignore shield defence. Destro is the perfect answer. And so is kamael berserker.

The kamael will get stunned all the time. =x

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lets clarify this
50% stun res is added to the base resistance not to general right?
what means 50% of almost nothing?almost nothing:D
icarus its true u played berserker but cmon..that was earlyer
maybe now the servers have more accurate formulas and etc?

i still think that glad is tank enemy
just pray for couple of crits..
and this whole interrupting shi7 is avilable only in kamael + chronicles right?the target removal effect i mean


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:17 am 
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dont matter does that skills afect shield defense , or ignore :P Tank is naturaly
a stone . you will need a LOT i realy mean a LOT of skills , expirience , and knowedle to beat him. look at this :

1.Phoenix knight : you fight like a noob with him 2 h , and he use vegenance, UD , angelic icon, touch of life , and than when all that go off, ( I rely think that you couldn-t kill him , but example, you had , you killed him , and had a lithle HP ) and he res him self and continue with full HP , MP , CP .Dont forget for skill block , that make you senless.

2. Eva Templar he is very strong , dont forget his crazyt cybics , that heal 2-3- k and more ! , touch of life , and Shield Bash that can interupt almost every skill in the game- blow,s , stuns, de buffs , magic skills , active skills , and there is that TOL , and ud, vegenance , cubs , and much more shi7.

3.DA what will you do ? use some tss and dss ?? lol man , that mean you will ki;ll your self , he have panter , that you cant atack ( if he is smarthe will agro you, and make you loosing time with atacking panter ) he have good skills too , shield , or revenge , and much more. that make tank-s very hard, and after tood, and shield stun human tanker-s can VERY easy give you skill block .

4. and the last one , Shilen templar his cubs de buff like crazy , hex , weaknes , power break , poison , and he have sting too :? that TOD will not help him much with some human warior class , coz they dont have buffs , and he will loose much HP , but he have soo many ofensive skills , and so many de buffs , that after 15 sec fight ,you will have problem-s to kill a 20 lvl lower mob !! and he have Shield bash too :D

So dont talk like : you only need few skills, and maby some crits ......bla bla bla bla . I only wana say that you discuss very surfacely , get a lithle deeper , and lookat all posibilites :D

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Actually, remember that the sh also has two touches of death. One is touch of shilen (touch of death with no hp requirement, ESSENTIAL VS A GLAD, his cp is almost as high as his hp) and normal touch of death.

You're also forgetting the pain of shilen, which grows his patk. A smart shillien knight will try to kite the glad, make him use his mana with blasters and storms. Blasters and storms are the last things of the sk's concern. Why? I told you, something important in skills. THEY DO NOT IGNORE SHIELD DEFENCE. This is very important, don't underestimate. You know very well what an unblocked arrow means to a tank (low dmg) and what a blocked arrow means. (ridiculous damage)

@Godsend: I played berserker on retail, in hellbound. Trust me. It performs pretty well vs a tank. But the sk and tk cap his ass. The berserker relies on his contagion + crushing pain vs a tank. Guess what. Their cast is low. Easily interruptable.

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i know for touch of shieln , and pain of shilen , and all that skills he got lather , like anti magic armor , all that protection-s and all :D but I didnt want to wrote , coz no1 would take time to read all that :?

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destro and sumoners are natural tank enemyes

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And the human is the natural enemy of all animals!!!1111

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i know for touch of shieln , and pain of shilen , and all that skills he got lather , like anti magic armor , all that protection-s and all :D but I didnt want to wrote , coz no1 would take time to read all that :?

Be serious. That + shield bash is the essence of the endgame st.

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you-r right br0 :P

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dont forget tk's entangle...and mirror skills...


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