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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:26 pm 
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RUIDRIK WRONG
first he is a gs which means he has hamstering that can make dmg AND can slow at the same time
second you better run
running = faster mp/hp reg ( not very important but can sometimes save your life ) and extra eva WHICH IS A MUST FOR ALL ARCHER/DAGGERS!!!!
second dont pb just hex his dmg will be decreased with very little so its better to make bigger dmg to him then to get less dmg from him
if he is a tank i wont spam stunning sot so much better lethal
the empower weapon for freezing strike can be used to land hex better

against sd well mostly same tactic but if he has a bow dont stop running just move little by little to be able to use passives his accuracy isnt that good but with the extra eva you will have from running around you will manage to survive

also when your low hp fatal counter then equip emp weaon and drain


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:09 pm 
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Hamstring's a lvl 77 skill, mate... Megard says he's lvl 76.
Can you elaborate against which you say you should run? Because I don't see any point in running against SM, because their accuracy is good enough to hit GS even while the GS runs. Plus, self buffed, they're faster too.
PB reduces his damage by enough to allow you to kill him before he kills you. That's the thing about dual swords, cruel damage even without mastery.
He's not talking about tanks, even, just sd and sm.
And like I said, slow first, then hex against classes that can keep up and/or run faster than you. That's why the empower weapon.
The problem with the SD is that it has the same magic capabilities as you. It can slow you down, kill your defense or attack just as easily as you can do to it.
I didn't mention fatal counter because it doesn't work on most servers.... which actually is quite sad. Its like the big equilizer of the GS against every other class.
And drain could work, but I'd prefer to use it only if I have like more than 60% hp. Slowing down and raining arrows rather than draining to regain a bit of hp only to have it cut down again isn't something I'm willing to rusk.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:53 pm 
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SWS's are fast indeed, they can also entangle you.
They also get magic barrier + M.def song so you probably will have hard time debuffing them.

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That's the thing about dual swords, cruel damage even without mastery.


I hope the SWS is with shield/sword, cuz with duals it sucks :?


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Azure wrote:
SWS's are fast indeed, they can also entangle you.
They also get magic barrier + M.def song so you probably will have hard time debuffing them.

Very true.

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That's the thing about dual swords, cruel damage even without mastery.

I hope the SWS is with shield/sword, cuz with duals it sucks :?

Apparently the guy megard fought against used dual swords, which is pretty smart... their dps rises noticably. Dual sword criticals do nice damage, even on an elf.... if not from a single critical, from the frequency of the criticals.


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Sekkurel wrote:

the empower weapon for freezing strike can be used to land hex better



hex power break are not magical skills...u can hex with bow or weapon empower its the same result..also acumen zerk will not help you to cast hex pb faster

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the empower weapon for freezing strike can be used to land hex better



hex power break are not magical skills...u can hex with bow or weapon empower its the same result..also acumen zerk will not help you to cast hex pb faster


Hex, Power Break use blessed spirit shots and depends of casting speed and m. atk, so yes they are magical skills.


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ok first of all the sd/swm have deflect arrow and reduces my dmg to them
and if i pb him it will only last longer the pvp but i wont be able to win
better hex it can cancel the defensive power of deflect arrow and i can do 100 % dmg to him
also i advise you to make 78 and get hamstering lethal and eva shot
eva shot can really save your ass against sd/swm that use bow if you know how to combine it with UE the will miss 60 % of all arrows


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If your main aim, which is to slow down the sm using freezing strike fails, standing your ground isn't what you have to resort to. And if you do, taking into account the fact that the sm is lvl 79, is using dual swords and has an affinity to resist your magic, it honestly doesn't matter whether you use hex or powerbreak, because the sm is likely to come out on to either way.
Use hex, reduce their defense against your arrows, good deal, you know; deal them a little more damage before you die. Or get lucky with criticals, but that still may not be enough to kill them (bloody song of life that they have). I suggested using powerbreak because it gives you the option of running around until your freezing strike lands. They can chase you, swing at you, etc, but at least, however accurate they are, their damage will be with decreased force.
And I agree... get your GS to 78 at least. Evade shot and hamstring shot make kiting a lot easier.


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the GS isnt a long term fighting char
either the enemy dies or he dies
so its best to increase its dps rather then his def
and the sm is a halftak/half buffer char so the winning chances of GS are kinda low considering tanks = natural enemies of archers


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Like you yourself said, the blind arrow launching thing is for hawkeyes... MS/GS have definite strategies. And a GS player requires a heck load of patience and the willingness to draw out battles if it improves chances of winning.


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KentZ0ne wrote:
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the empower weapon for freezing strike can be used to land hex better



hex power break are not magical skills...u can hex with bow or weapon empower its the same result..also acumen zerk will not help you to cast hex pb faster


Hex, Power Break use blessed spirit shots and depends of casting speed and m. atk, so yes they are magical skills.


i can send u screenshots from gracia....they dont consume blessed shots and hav the same cast speed with or w/o acumen zerk dance of concentration

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I don't know on what srvr/srvrs you're playng/played but skills like freezing strike, hex , power break always were magical skills.


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kent is right they are magical skills

nlk gracia servers are not bad but most of em are just piece of crap...so dont believe em so much


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nonelikeme wrote:
KentZ0ne wrote:
nonelikeme wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:

the empower weapon for freezing strike can be used to land hex better



hex power break are not magical skills...u can hex with bow or weapon empower its the same result..also acumen zerk will not help you to cast hex pb faster


Hex, Power Break use blessed spirit shots and depends of casting speed and m. atk, so yes they are magical skills.


i can send u screenshots from gracia....they dont consume blessed shots and hav the same cast speed with or w/o acumen zerk dance of concentration


ahah they are magic skills. On IL, gracia w/e they ARE magic skills, affected by casting speed and M.atk, and consume spiritshots! U shouldnt doubt about it, but if u do, I can tell u its retail info

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i can send u screenshots from gracia....they dont consume blessed shots and hav the same cast speed with or w/o acumen zerk dance of concentration

If you show me retail proof of that, I'm converting to christianity.

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