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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:52 pm 
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1) ++++ on weap and str effects blow dmg?
2) AW passive skills for crit.dmg effects blows dmg?
3) cr.dmg on weap effects blow dmg?
4) DEX effects blow dmg?

talking about official-official like servers low rate GRAcia


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:00 pm 
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You want official info about that thing for Crazia :)? Wont happen besides there is no Off-like private grazia server yet so... ( there is not off-like kamael ither... )

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:11 pm 
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tsakpinis wrote:
1) ++++ on weap and str effects blow dmg?
2) AW passive skills for crit.dmg effects blows dmg?
3) cr.dmg on weap effects blow dmg?
4) DEX effects blow dmg?

talking about official-official like servers low rate GRAcia


1)yes a little ( higher str = more chance to do 2x dmg on blows)
2)yes
3)yes
4)no


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:33 pm 
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hbsr wrote:
tsakpinis wrote:
1) ++++ on weap and str effects blow dmg?
2) AW passive skills for crit.dmg effects blows dmg?
3) cr.dmg on weap effects blow dmg?
4) DEX effects blow dmg?

talking about official-official like servers low rate GRAcia


1)yes a little ( higher str = more chance to do 2x dmg on blows)
2)yes
3)yes
4)no


100% agree
and tsakpinis couldnt u just read the fking topics about th vs pw and get ur answers?!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:13 pm 
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Agree with hbsr, except for the fact that +++ on weapon won't give you any extra skill dmg.

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he said yes :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:12 pm 
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PaaGRIO wrote:
You want official info about that thing for Crazia :)? Wont happen besides there is no Off-like private grazia server yet so... ( there is not off-like kamael ither... )


maybe he is playing on retail and wants to avoid a thread full of flames and trash talks thats why he only said official to official-like server.
i've been reading most of the topics here and found out that many forum users here refuse to believe that there are actually retail players using this forum.

anyway, there are two retail "branches" of L2 that has or will have Gracia patch:
that is the L2 North America and L2 South East Asia.
so tsakpinis is playing in either of these retail branches cuz he wants to know facts about blow damages on Gracia patch.


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1) enchants on weapon enhances patk, patk do affect crit/blow damage, also buffs like might and g.might will afect blow damage since they increase patk.
2) AW passive skill "crit power", toggle skill "vicious stance", "death whisper" buff will also affect blow damage.
3) SA crit damage will affect blow damage, but i'm not sure about the computation of buffs and skills that affect crit damage are stacked together.
4) DEX only affect crit rate(crit rate = probability of landing crits)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:06 am 
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Maybe they play official, but you surely don't.

kaiseranimus wrote:
1) enchants on weapon enhances patk, patk do affect crit/blow damage, also buffs like might and g.might will afect blow damage since they increase patk.

Because this is the biggest lie i have ever heard. Is it so hard? Go get a freaking c-grade dagger, and then get your stock dagger out. Compare damage, you'll notice no difference.

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3) SA crit damage will affect blow damage, but i'm not sure about the computation of buffs and skills that affect crit damage are stacked together.

You know, that's like asking 'does haste buff stack with haste passive and haste SA?' I can't realise how somebody could think such a stupid thing.

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Icarus wrote:
Maybe they play official, but you surely don't.

kaiseranimus wrote:
1) enchants on weapon enhances patk, patk do affect crit/blow damage, also buffs like might and g.might will afect blow damage since they increase patk.

Because this is the biggest lie i have ever heard. Is it so hard? Go get a freaking c-grade dagger, and then get your stock dagger out. Compare damage, you'll notice no difference.


i was only talking about normal hits that do crits, not crits from skills.

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3) SA crit damage will affect blow damage, but i'm not sure about the computation of buffs and skills that affect crit damage are stacked together.

You know, that's like asking 'does haste buff stack with haste passive and haste SA?' I can't realise how somebody could think such a stupid thing.

did you understand my statement?
i already know they stack, but do you know HOW THE COMPUTATIONS WORK WHILE THE SKILLS/BUFFS ARE STACKED TOGETHER?
like: vicious stance + DW + crit power + SA crit power = what?
it adds how much to your crit damage? what exactly are the #s?

i know vic stance adds ### depending on its lvl, DW adds ###% depending on lvl, SA crit power adds ### depending on grade of dagger.
but how much does the passive skill crit power adds?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:00 pm 
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http://l2p.l2wh.com/passives.html
Critical Power 6 - P.Atk. on a critical hit +384
As cd gives 265. Vicious stance gives 609.

Look over http://l2p.l2wh.com/ much useful stuff there.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:27 am 
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when u use hast on sa ( angel slayer ) u don't need hast buff ?? or it never effect atack speed ??

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:31 am 
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haste SA increases ur Atk.speed wether or not u have buffs, so if u are unbuffed u have, lets say, 600 Atk.speed, with haste 800, with fury 900, with cov/pof/pow 1000.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:43 am 
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OK i use the CD in my angel slayer and i will change to hast i think is better

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MarWanteD wrote:
OK i use the CD in my angel slayer and i will change to hast i think is better


no!

keep CD, u wont notice haste so much, trust me

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ok ? i don't have exprience in this game that's why i try to change to have same knowledge on what's better and worst . but i will keep it on CD and craft an other for ùy abyss walker . btw the abyswalker on pvp of dagger vs dagger Rule ( but i need a target macro . coz if i don't lose traget i win only if bluff or lethal ...) . but i USE TH vs nuker archer ... tyrant is so hard to kill and the -_- destroyer too with his tones of HP :)

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