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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:19 am 
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You can always count on GoDs3nD to be polite :mrgreen: Anyway "But they are not doing this just for the love of the game. There is money involved." - I don't think these two are mutually exclusive. You can do things "for the love of the game" only so much if it's a black hole for all your time. Getting some money back on the time you are spending on it is to make sure you can keep working on it. Obviously I don't know their intentions with this project, but I think there are much more efficient ways to make money. We don't have to go far for example, plenty of servers out there with very little work put into them only to reopen every year :)

my post never implied those 2 things are mutually exclusive young fella
the usage of the words NOT .... JUST implies the project is NOT SOLELY for the love of the game but ALSO for money

its a money making project that has 3000+ per server and premium for a month costs $25 (eur 22)
you can dualbox only if you pay for premium soo... u can figure the rest out yourself

but it also s obviously made with a lot of fanboyism

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Great project, just 10 years too late. Also, there is no way they are going to let this project go live and be monetized. They are already cracking down on anyone that tries to make content about it online. Someone is going to go to jail over this project, so I wouldn't get too excited for it.


legal part will never be a problem for this project just like it isnt for many other huge l2 projects. the arests you mention are never gona happen


update:
apparently the server was not in early alpha but only the client so the server has "Started started" for real and there wont be wipes


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:30 pm 
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You can always count on GoDs3nD to be polite :mrgreen: Anyway "But they are not doing this just for the love of the game. There is money involved." - I don't think these two are mutually exclusive. You can do things "for the love of the game" only so much if it's a black hole for all your time. Getting some money back on the time you are spending on it is to make sure you can keep working on it. Obviously I don't know their intentions with this project, but I think there are much more efficient ways to make money. We don't have to go far for example, plenty of servers out there with very little work put into them only to reopen every year :)

my post never implied those 2 things are mutually exclusive young fella
the usage of the words NOT .... JUST implies the project is NOT SOLELY for the love of the game but ALSO for money

its a money making project that has 3000+ per server and premium for a month costs $25 (eur 22)
you can dualbox only if you pay for premium soo... u can figure the rest out yourself

but it also s obviously made with a lot of fanboyism


legal part will never be a problem for this project.


Ye that's what I was saying, I was reacting to inkblot's possible implication about the project's intention was to make money. Personally I wouldn't really mind even if there was more P2W, if there is a project that deserves it it is this one. One thing I really can't get over with are those cloaks, they completely ruin the oldschool aesthetics of the game :? They could've easily replaced those with a selection from hats (say you can pick one out of 20 to get the bonuses). Would've achieved about the same thing but wouldn't make it look like some random BR kid's 10000x serbidorki :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:21 am 
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Herlitz wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Herlitz wrote:

You can always count on GoDs3nD to be polite :mrgreen: Anyway "But they are not doing this just for the love of the game. There is money involved." - I don't think these two are mutually exclusive. You can do things "for the love of the game" only so much if it's a black hole for all your time. Getting some money back on the time you are spending on it is to make sure you can keep working on it. Obviously I don't know their intentions with this project, but I think there are much more efficient ways to make money. We don't have to go far for example, plenty of servers out there with very little work put into them only to reopen every year :)

my post never implied those 2 things are mutually exclusive young fella
the usage of the words NOT .... JUST implies the project is NOT SOLELY for the love of the game but ALSO for money

its a money making project that has 3000+ per server and premium for a month costs $25 (eur 22)
you can dualbox only if you pay for premium soo... u can figure the rest out yourself

but it also s obviously made with a lot of fanboyism


legal part will never be a problem for this project.


Ye that's what I was saying, I was reacting to inkblot's possible implication about the project's intention was to make money. Personally I wouldn't really mind even if there was more P2W, if there is a project that deserves it it is this one. One thing I really can't get over with are those cloaks, they completely ruin the oldschool aesthetics of the game :? They could've easily replaced those with a selection from hats (say you can pick one out of 20 to get the bonuses). Would've achieved about the same thing but wouldn't make it look like some random BR kid's 10000x serbidorki :mrgreen:


I did not know that you support a P2W server Herlitz, shame. That's just wrong IMHO.

My days of paying a monthly fee, or even a P2W server are long behind me.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:35 am 
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inkblot wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Herlitz wrote:

You can always count on GoDs3nD to be polite :mrgreen: Anyway "But they are not doing this just for the love of the game. There is money involved." - I don't think these two are mutually exclusive. You can do things "for the love of the game" only so much if it's a black hole for all your time. Getting some money back on the time you are spending on it is to make sure you can keep working on it. Obviously I don't know their intentions with this project, but I think there are much more efficient ways to make money. We don't have to go far for example, plenty of servers out there with very little work put into them only to reopen every year :)

my post never implied those 2 things are mutually exclusive young fella
the usage of the words NOT .... JUST implies the project is NOT SOLELY for the love of the game but ALSO for money

its a money making project that has 3000+ per server and premium for a month costs $25 (eur 22)
you can dualbox only if you pay for premium soo... u can figure the rest out yourself

but it also s obviously made with a lot of fanboyism


legal part will never be a problem for this project.


Ye that's what I was saying, I was reacting to inkblot's possible implication about the project's intention was to make money. Personally I wouldn't really mind even if there was more P2W, if there is a project that deserves it it is this one. One thing I really can't get over with are those cloaks, they completely ruin the oldschool aesthetics of the game :? They could've easily replaced those with a selection from hats (say you can pick one out of 20 to get the bonuses). Would've achieved about the same thing but wouldn't make it look like some random BR kid's 10000x serbidorki :mrgreen:


I did not know that you support a P2W server Herlitz, shame. That's just wrong IMHO.

My days of paying a monthly fee, or even a P2W server are long behind me.


Well I'm not saying P2W is right in principle, wouldn't necessarily say I "support it" per se. But if I look back at all the servers I've played, I do think that compared to most of them this is the one where some p2w can be justified, considering the effort that was put into it.

Speaking of monthly fees though, I would absolutely prefer them over p2w. And I mean in general, not just here. I've always thought it would be awesome if there could be plain and simple official server C1 to H5 (maybe with some slight adjustments where things were totally unhinged :mrgreen:) with monhtly fees, just like back in goods old days. I think a lot of people would agree with me on this one, but sadly NCsoft/Innova are too busy bullying private servers to actually use their heads for once :?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:50 am 
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Herlitz wrote:
inkblot wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Herlitz wrote:

You can always count on GoDs3nD to be polite :mrgreen: Anyway "But they are not doing this just for the love of the game. There is money involved." - I don't think these two are mutually exclusive. You can do things "for the love of the game" only so much if it's a black hole for all your time. Getting some money back on the time you are spending on it is to make sure you can keep working on it. Obviously I don't know their intentions with this project, but I think there are much more efficient ways to make money. We don't have to go far for example, plenty of servers out there with very little work put into them only to reopen every year :)

my post never implied those 2 things are mutually exclusive young fella
the usage of the words NOT .... JUST implies the project is NOT SOLELY for the love of the game but ALSO for money

its a money making project that has 3000+ per server and premium for a month costs $25 (eur 22)
you can dualbox only if you pay for premium soo... u can figure the rest out yourself

but it also s obviously made with a lot of fanboyism


legal part will never be a problem for this project.


Ye that's what I was saying, I was reacting to inkblot's possible implication about the project's intention was to make money. Personally I wouldn't really mind even if there was more P2W, if there is a project that deserves it it is this one. One thing I really can't get over with are those cloaks, they completely ruin the oldschool aesthetics of the game :? They could've easily replaced those with a selection from hats (say you can pick one out of 20 to get the bonuses). Would've achieved about the same thing but wouldn't make it look like some random BR kid's 10000x serbidorki :mrgreen:


I did not know that you support a P2W server Herlitz, shame. That's just wrong IMHO.

My days of paying a monthly fee, or even a P2W server are long behind me.


Well I'm not saying P2W is right in principle, wouldn't necessarily say I "support it" per se. But if I look back at all the servers I've played, I do think that compared to most of them this is the one where some p2w can be justified, considering the effort that was put into it.

Speaking of monthly fees though, I would absolutely prefer them over p2w. And I mean in general, not just here. I've always thought it would be awesome if there could be plain and simple official server C1 to H5 (maybe with some slight adjustments where things were totally unhinged :mrgreen:) with monhtly fees, just like back in goods old days. I think a lot of people would agree with me on this one, but sadly NCsoft/Innova are too busy bullying private servers to actually use their heads for once :?


Back in the day it was a company NCSoft that charged us money to play. That is a big difference from a bunch of guys getting together and deciding to charge you to pay a monthly fee to play on their server.

Through the years, I have played on too many corrupt servers. GM's, Admins etc. It doesn't matter.

Granted these guys put in the work. But even if the fee was $5 a month I would still not pay to play. Life is too short.

And this is a Russian group. I never had any luck playing on a Russian server.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:07 am 
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looks promising. I kept seeing the advertisement on social media, but the fact that nowadays most private servers are filled with russians, makes it quite undesirable in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:11 pm 
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inkblot wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
inkblot wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Herlitz wrote:

You can always count on GoDs3nD to be polite :mrgreen: Anyway "But they are not doing this just for the love of the game. There is money involved." - I don't think these two are mutually exclusive. You can do things "for the love of the game" only so much if it's a black hole for all your time. Getting some money back on the time you are spending on it is to make sure you can keep working on it. Obviously I don't know their intentions with this project, but I think there are much more efficient ways to make money. We don't have to go far for example, plenty of servers out there with very little work put into them only to reopen every year :)

my post never implied those 2 things are mutually exclusive young fella
the usage of the words NOT .... JUST implies the project is NOT SOLELY for the love of the game but ALSO for money

its a money making project that has 3000+ per server and premium for a month costs $25 (eur 22)
you can dualbox only if you pay for premium soo... u can figure the rest out yourself

but it also s obviously made with a lot of fanboyism


legal part will never be a problem for this project.


Ye that's what I was saying, I was reacting to inkblot's possible implication about the project's intention was to make money. Personally I wouldn't really mind even if there was more P2W, if there is a project that deserves it it is this one. One thing I really can't get over with are those cloaks, they completely ruin the oldschool aesthetics of the game :? They could've easily replaced those with a selection from hats (say you can pick one out of 20 to get the bonuses). Would've achieved about the same thing but wouldn't make it look like some random BR kid's 10000x serbidorki :mrgreen:


I did not know that you support a P2W server Herlitz, shame. That's just wrong IMHO.

My days of paying a monthly fee, or even a P2W server are long behind me.


Well I'm not saying P2W is right in principle, wouldn't necessarily say I "support it" per se. But if I look back at all the servers I've played, I do think that compared to most of them this is the one where some p2w can be justified, considering the effort that was put into it.

Speaking of monthly fees though, I would absolutely prefer them over p2w. And I mean in general, not just here. I've always thought it would be awesome if there could be plain and simple official server C1 to H5 (maybe with some slight adjustments where things were totally unhinged :mrgreen:) with monhtly fees, just like back in goods old days. I think a lot of people would agree with me on this one, but sadly NCsoft/Innova are too busy bullying private servers to actually use their heads for once :?


Back in the day it was a company NCSoft that charged us money to play. That is a big difference from a bunch of guys getting together and deciding to charge you to pay a monthly fee to play on their server.

Through the years, I have played on too many corrupt servers. GM's, Admins etc. It doesn't matter.

Granted these guys put in the work. But even if the fee was $5 a month I would still not pay to play. Life is too short.

And this is a Russian group. I never had any luck playing on a Russian server.


Idk. Personally I don't see that much of a difference between a company and just some smaller group of people (who put in the effort) charging me the subscription fee, as long as I am allowed to leave anytime I want :P Between the P2W and the sub fee I choose the latter any day of the week, but I understand it's just my personal preference :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:59 pm 
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Herlitz wrote:
inkblot wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
inkblot wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Herlitz wrote:

You can always count on GoDs3nD to be polite :mrgreen: Anyway "But they are not doing this just for the love of the game. There is money involved." - I don't think these two are mutually exclusive. You can do things "for the love of the game" only so much if it's a black hole for all your time. Getting some money back on the time you are spending on it is to make sure you can keep working on it. Obviously I don't know their intentions with this project, but I think there are much more efficient ways to make money. We don't have to go far for example, plenty of servers out there with very little work put into them only to reopen every year :)

my post never implied those 2 things are mutually exclusive young fella
the usage of the words NOT .... JUST implies the project is NOT SOLELY for the love of the game but ALSO for money

its a money making project that has 3000+ per server and premium for a month costs $25 (eur 22)
you can dualbox only if you pay for premium soo... u can figure the rest out yourself

but it also s obviously made with a lot of fanboyism


legal part will never be a problem for this project.


Ye that's what I was saying, I was reacting to inkblot's possible implication about the project's intention was to make money. Personally I wouldn't really mind even if there was more P2W, if there is a project that deserves it it is this one. One thing I really can't get over with are those cloaks, they completely ruin the oldschool aesthetics of the game :? They could've easily replaced those with a selection from hats (say you can pick one out of 20 to get the bonuses). Would've achieved about the same thing but wouldn't make it look like some random BR kid's 10000x serbidorki :mrgreen:


I did not know that you support a P2W server Herlitz, shame. That's just wrong IMHO.

My days of paying a monthly fee, or even a P2W server are long behind me.


Well I'm not saying P2W is right in principle, wouldn't necessarily say I "support it" per se. But if I look back at all the servers I've played, I do think that compared to most of them this is the one where some p2w can be justified, considering the effort that was put into it.

Speaking of monthly fees though, I would absolutely prefer them over p2w. And I mean in general, not just here. I've always thought it would be awesome if there could be plain and simple official server C1 to H5 (maybe with some slight adjustments where things were totally unhinged :mrgreen:) with monhtly fees, just like back in goods old days. I think a lot of people would agree with me on this one, but sadly NCsoft/Innova are too busy bullying private servers to actually use their heads for once :?


Back in the day it was a company NCSoft that charged us money to play. That is a big difference from a bunch of guys getting together and deciding to charge you to pay a monthly fee to play on their server.

Through the years, I have played on too many corrupt servers. GM's, Admins etc. It doesn't matter.

Granted these guys put in the work. But even if the fee was $5 a month I would still not pay to play. Life is too short.

And this is a Russian group. I never had any luck playing on a Russian server.


Idk. Personally I don't see that much of a difference between a company and just some smaller group of people (who put in the effort) charging me the subscription fee, as long as I am allowed to leave anytime I want :P Between the P2W and the sub fee I choose the latter any day of the week, but I understand it's just my personal preference :)



The point you missed is that, NCSoft had the ability to push updates or Chronicles out in a timely fashion. They had plans, money for advertising etc. And they answered to a board of trustees. They had a very vested interest in this. It was a game designed to make money. And they had a quality about them.

The problem with any non sanctioned server that followed, is lack of content. The end comes to quick and boredom sets in. Or corruption takes over.

Too many of us have seen what looked like good servers pop up, rake in fees, and shut down. Just to open under another name. Rinse and repeat. I think they even had a name for it.

Thats why I do not trust these guys one bit. Even if they succeed, their ability to add NEW content is extremely limited.

Plus this game came out in October of 2003. It may now look better, feel better, but its the same.

Also when I played it was $15 CDN a month not $25 euros.

But I still wish them luck.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2025 2:07 pm 
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I checked out the trailer earlier and the game really does look impressive, mostly because of how smooth the movement and lighting effects are. What sold me was the atmosphere — it reminds me of those indie titles that feel simple at first but end up pulling you in because everything just works together nicely.

From what I’ve seen, the combat seems tight and the world design has that slightly eerie vibe without going overboard. If they keep the performance stable on release, I can see it becoming one of those games you binge for a weekend without noticing the hours pass.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:01 pm 
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I checked out the link earlier and the gameplay really does look smooth, especially the movement and lighting. What caught my eye most was how clean the UI feels a lot of new games overcomplicate things, but this one seems straightforward in a good way.

If you’re thinking about trying it, I’d wait to see a bit more actual player footage first, just to make sure it’s not another trailer that oversells itself. Also keep an eye on system requirements; the effects look great, but they might hit weaker PCs harder than expected.


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inkblot wrote:
Herlitz wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
Herlitz wrote:

You can always count on GoDs3nD to be polite :mrgreen: Anyway "But they are not doing this just for the love of the game. There is money involved." - I don't think these two are mutually exclusive. You can do things "for the love of the game" only so much if it's a black hole for all your time. Getting some money back on the time you are spending on it is to make sure you can keep working on it. Obviously I don't know their intentions with this project, but I think there are much more efficient ways to make money. We don't have to go far for example, plenty of servers out there with very little work put into them only to reopen every year :)

my post never implied those 2 things are mutually exclusive young fella
the usage of the words NOT .... JUST implies the project is NOT SOLELY for the love of the game but ALSO for money

its a money making project that has 3000+ per server and premium for a month costs $25 (eur 22)
you can dualbox only if you pay for premium soo... u can figure the rest out yourself

but it also s obviously made with a lot of fanboyism


legal part will never be a problem for this project.


Ye that's what I was saying, I was reacting to inkblot's possible implication about the project's intention was to make money. Personally I wouldn't really mind even if there was more P2W, if there is a project that deserves it it is this one. One thing I really can't get over with are those cloaks, they completely ruin the oldschool aesthetics of the game :? They could've easily replaced those with a selection from hats (say you can pick one out of 20 to get the bonuses). Would've achieved about the same thing but wouldn't make it look like some random BR kid's 10000x serbidorki :mrgreen:


I did not know that you support a P2W server Herlitz, shame. That's just wrong IMHO.

My days of paying a monthly fee, or even a P2W server are long behind me.

I totally get your concerns! The hardware requirements can be overwhelming these days. It's great that you can still enjoy the classic Lineage games on lower-end machines. Hopefully, future updates will optimize performance so more players can join in. And yes, the gameplay videos do look amazing! Let's keep our fingers crossed for better specs down the line![/url]


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waiting for new svr, 50 ppl cp :D


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