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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:31 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:33 am 
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Yes real warlord.
High HP/def and low p att meatshield that can't kill shit lol....
I wonder if you guys really believe what you're saying...
or if you just say it cuz you wanna differ....

Wanna know sum facts?
WL is a slow level-er...
While destro levels the fastest in L2. (until T1 that is)
Destro with pole can 3-4hit mobs on frenzy/zealot.
Destro with VR won't die on a train.
Warlord will keep smacking em for the same low damage.
+ warlord's skills are....eh...useless?
+ since destro w/ risk haste dagger can do frenzy with like 3-4 mins reuse...
there's no reason to ever make WL for trains, waste of time imo.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:28 am 
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mariosxx wrote:
Yes real warlord.
High HP/def and low p att meatshield that can't kill shit lol....
I wonder if you guys really believe what you're saying...
or if you just say it cuz you wanna differ....

Wanna know sum facts?
WL is a slow level-er...
While destro levels the fastest in L2. (until T1 that is)
Destro with pole can 3-4hit mobs on frenzy/zealot.
Destro with VR won't die on a train.
Warlord will keep smacking em for the same low damage.
+ warlord's skills are....eh...useless?
+ since destro w/ risk haste dagger can do frenzy with like 3-4 mins reuse...
there's no reason to ever make WL for trains, waste of time imo.



If you didn't know it already the skills of the WL makes it one step better then Destroyer. Basicly a WL is good because it can stun its enemies, and hit EVERY mob instead of just a small amount of them. On all lvls there are areas filled with big or small groups of mobs which is made for small aoe parties.

A WL used correctly won't die with VR either, because of stun and quicker attack speed.

Btw, a lesson in the skill called freanzy:

"Temporarily increases P. Atk., especially when using Spear or Blunt Weapons. Also increases Accuracy and P. Atk. when using Two-Handed Swords and Blunt Weapons. Usable only when HP are 30% or lower."

basicly NOT with a dagger or bow for that matter. It's just a private server adjustment.

Anyways, the WL and Destro has the same amount of str, only that destroyer may use frenzy or rage at some times. The WL on the other hand has War cry and detect weakness. Which doesn't make up for the frenzy, however he has final frenzy which is almost the same thing as normal frenzy in Kamael.
Shock stomp, Revival and Thunder storm ain't useless skills, worst comment ever xD

Simply:
Destroyer is easy and not very hard to learn.
Warlord is either easy and bad or hard and extremely good.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:05 am 
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zaqen wrote:
mariosxx wrote:
Yes real warlord.
High HP/def and low p att meatshield that can't kill shit lol....
I wonder if you guys really believe what you're saying...
or if you just say it cuz you wanna differ....

Wanna know sum facts?
WL is a slow level-er...
While destro levels the fastest in L2. (until T1 that is)
Destro with pole can 3-4hit mobs on frenzy/zealot.
Destro with VR won't die on a train.
Warlord will keep smacking em for the same low damage.
+ warlord's skills are....eh...useless?
+ since destro w/ risk haste dagger can do frenzy with like 3-4 mins reuse...
there's no reason to ever make WL for trains, waste of time imo.


Btw, a lesson in the skill called freanzy:

"Temporarily increases P. Atk., especially when using Spear or Blunt Weapons. Also increases Accuracy and P. Atk. when using Two-Handed Swords and Blunt Weapons. Usable only when HP are 30% or lower."


Daggers have better attack speed than other weapons. A dagger + Rsk. Haste gives the user even more.

Where I play, a higher attack speed makes the re-use time of your skills shorter.

After he activates Frenzy, he switches to his polearm and starts attacking.

I've been told, however, that att. spd isn't related to re-use on some servers.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:08 pm 
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zaqen wrote:
"Temporarily increases P. Atk., especially when using Spear or Blunt Weapons. Also increases Accuracy and P. Atk. when using Two-Handed Swords and Blunt Weapons. Usable only when HP are 30% or lower."

basicly NOT with a dagger or bow for that matter. It's just a private server adjustment.

Who sais you're gonna frenzy with the dagger? You equip the dagger, then you frenzy, then you can switch back to your pole again. When you do a skill with a certain weapon, immediately after you use it its reuse time is stabilised directly proportional to what weapon you're wielding atm. For example you have a dagger, you use deadly blow, then you equip a soul bow, the reuse won't be higher. It will be the same, because the reuse delay was already stabilised.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:59 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 am 
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Destro whit out frenzy is a peas of shit in aoe ant pvp...
If destro would not have frenzy, almost all chars cud beat a crap out of him.

And i choose defiantly a wl 4 aoe hunt because of all the stuns he have, howl (decreases p atk of mobs) and revival.
BDw destro is mainly made t go whit two handed swords (even if it has pole mastery) cuz most of skills can only be made whit sword. so you can't say that
destro is better than warlord in aoe.

and yes i have played with destro and wl so i know what i am saying.

sorry if that sounded a bit too aggressive


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:54 pm 
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Destro is too slow and almost all char's can kite him :(


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:25 pm 
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Destro all the way baby,they do the best damn trains i have ever seen.

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Destro whit out frenzy is a peas of shit in aoe ant pvp...
If destro would not have frenzy, almost all chars cud beat a crap out of him.

You're partially right, but destro has other great heavy sword skills, a dagger has no choice but to bow him to death which is extremely boring AND risky. Risky because the destro gets his bow out, and the range difference will be 150, so it's not that high. Not enough to kite efficiently.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:40 pm 
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i did a test. i got a wl and a destro lvl 80 . i went to imperial tomb. i got 1 room with both and guess what - desrto did 2-3 times more dmg but he hit like 5 mobs ,while wl hit sh1t on all but he hit them all IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM (exept some behind him) . and dont start whining "oh its x230245346302423050234023603405 server" ,kuz pve on high and low isn't diffrent (exept pve is optional on high) .


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:48 pm 
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For that i was talk and alos with WL u can just use "Provoke" and with Destro u have to hit every moob or to run to get all the room.


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TwisterRoar wrote:
i did a test. i got a wl and a destro lvl 80 . i went to imperial tomb. i got 1 room with both and guess what - desrto did 2-3 times more dmg but he hit like 5 mobs ,while wl hit sh1t on all but he hit them all IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM (exept some behind him) . and dont start whining "oh its x230245346302423050234023603405 server" ,kuz pve on high and low isn't diffrent (exept pve is optional on high) .

Excuse me, destroes go in the corner and hit almost all the mobs. I think i've had enough of your 'tests'.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:27 pm 
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tried it :D . wl still hit more


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Try it again. Destro hits what's in his front side, warlord hits with aoe effect. If you're in a corner destro hits everything he faces.


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