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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:12 pm 
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PaaGRIO wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
i rly followed all the posts
everything
and i have to admit that +5 dex wont change ANYTHING at all
evasion on orc=lold
catching an archer in dash/counter+song of wind=dream
no matter what dyes u have
rly tested that shi7 in a nonlolserver

anyway which idiotic tyrant picks targets that will see him at 2k+range?
that reminds me of those monsters in serious sam
the ones without heads and bombs on their hands
proly ull remember those assholes

anyway suicider

u also need to get in range for 2 skills
cripple
soul breaker
if 1 of those lands time for QQ

id go +5con-5dex if u think that -9 is too drastical

my 5 cents


The only not lol server is the ONE none of us is paying right now so ... DEX,ROXY,XEBRA,DN,PARADISE,ABYSS all lol in a way... U began spamin with posts that have no meaning only having the modern words thats fine :) i wont post here we are the point where the only thing that can proove me wrong/right is actual situation or a pvp somewhere :) i hope l2 inferno opens soon so we can all see what i mean :)

Im just asking u try it pvp an archer in light armor with +5 dex with rabbit ...


Ok, so you say +5 dex on a warrior class with one of the lowest dex on the game would make A BIG DIFFERENCE?

I have played with an archer since c1, and i can tellyou that even an archer with Ultimate Evasion can´t avoid my arrows, just look at combat calculator on l2calc and you´ll see that an archer can hit another archer with UE on it with a 40%+ land rate on critical hit and near 50% of chance to get normal hits. (full buffed both)

Now, dash doesn´t last for 2 minutes on a Haweye, it last for only 15 secs, perfectly a tyrant can use force barrier in that lapse, run into you and use cripple and good bye archer.

I guess you forgot that archers dont shoot arrows while running, you have to stop to shoot an arrow, so a tyrant can easily get close to you, in most of cases archers just run away from a monster that has near 20k of life and can take you down with 3 or 4 skills in 4 secs or less.

Im sorry but 130 evasion is shit, what happens if you face a ghost sentinel, with accuracy toogled on, guidance, ant queen, baium and shadow sense?

i tell you, im playing a lot with an archer, and i know that even if i hit only crits on a Grand Kavathari would take me like 7 arrows to kill one, obiously he will use cp pots and cp elixirs, and life elixir, healing pots maybe, while attaking me, that would take me 4 crits more..

Cripple lands a lot, a good GK only needs to get close to me just 1 time to take me down in a blink of an eye.

They are fast even with -9 con, i just can shoot 3 arrows or 4 and he is next to me using rabbit, then cripple or stun, change his totem to another with more p.atk and good night.

+5 dex, lol... good GKs use + STR, + CON and -DEX

I guess your PVP´s take place on talking island or newby towns, cause is really difficult for an archer to start running far away, i dont remember a zone with a flat ground with no trees and mountains, just turn a little while running and thats a big chance to any warrior (duelist, GK, dagger) to get next to you.

Bye mister evasion LOL

Sorry but putting dex on a Tyrant its like proffesor klump buying basketball shoes to get higher xD


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:38 pm 
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PaaGRIO wrote:
Dunno who u tested it with or how u played it ... test it with me and than we`ll speak if u kill me on sagi with TYRANT -9 dex and heavy armor, i`ll stop playing l2. Same thing if u kill my TYRANT setup with a sagi, i`ll stop playing again... Your so called tests that are done somewhere in some matter realy don`t give me any sence of confidence in your words :)

btw for u can say only one thing :) look at frosty`s sign, tells alot about ppl with post counts ...
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today i read this topic cos i want make a tyrant sub. my sign roks. ™

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:26 pm 
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tyran can easily pwn archer/dager class coz of high atk speed/stun/dmg
he maybe dont have much natural dmg , but he have skills that reuse fast , and a lot or suport skills (slow/stun/escape shakle/totems) he can modify his stats depending he wana play dager mod, tanker mod or normal gladi/tyrant mod ,thats coz its not easy to pwn tyrant .ah yes , he can play archer mod too (criple and use that force skils 79 lvl) . think about it

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:12 am 
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I had to laugh how you guys overrate dyes, srsly...
Dyes are just tuning your char in 1 way. Making your character better (more affective) for 1 situation and usually worse(less affective) to more than 1 situation. Even on 1 battlefield there always will be more than 1 kind of trouble you have to solve. And you cant change your dyes on the battlefield, can you?

PvP is all about (in order of priority):
Our skills/enemy's skills/status (equipment/buffs)/misc (location/dyes/global warming/the toothbrushing habits of the UFOs found in Area 51/...)

the mix of the above + basic sense of logic should make you clear how to use your character against your enemy.

PS: ima bit late but couldnt resist not to stop-by.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:23 am 
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last post in topic is from july :lol:

sorry, it WAS

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