isnt sorce the shittiest mage for pvp? what he has to offer? in all facts there are better mages survivability=necro m.attack=sph c.speed-m.crit=sps

if he isnt the shittiest then who is? :O

he is good vs fighters ... he has slow and fire vort which is -30% atk speed and let's not forget cancel... an enemy with those debuffs wouoldn't stand a chance

nice cast speed , nice matk

in mass pvp he is good as sps because of cancel

the only - i see to sorc is that he can;t go in fog parties

vs melee fighters sps rulez -30% running speed
cancel sps has too
i concider him as the shittiest mage GENERALLY TALKING no special circumstances

Sh1ttiest mage? Gtfo man. Why the fock did u do this topic. Put some sorc stats all toghether and u'll be amazed. Never played 1 it seems and u just wanna start a stupid topic. Archmage is as good as every mage. Decent matk,high cast speed, slow, human con, also cancel. Overall it's v balanced and a powerfull mage. Doesn't have nothing in minus than the others except the lack of btm higher lvl(speaking about sh or necro). If u are not convinced put a lvl 78 sorc in calc, with dyes and standard buffs,dc set, and u'll see he's more balanced overall than sps and decent speed, with good skills.

fire vortex = -30%atkspd ,..

Look, vs. fighters sorcecor is amazing.
Fire Vortex decreases 30% Attack Speed and with Slow fighter has really damaged stats without cancellation. With cancellation, all that fighter can say is /gtfo.
Only problem there is are daggers.
Archers with 30% atk. spd. and with cancel he can have debuffed Haste and Rapid Shot with 3% atk. spd. he is like old man.
If I would need to choose nuker, I would choose Spellhowler.
Amazing m. atk. with wind vortex your cst. spd. is equal to sps and with echo and arcane power he has amazing life restore with dark vortex and vampiric claw.

ok then who is the shittiest mage? sph? sps necro? or they are all the same(noob answer)

in what situation ?

in nuker vs nuker fight sorc is the worst

generally talking....mass pvp 1v1 pvp ganks war

sorc is the worst but it's not like it is a big difference between mages , sorc can do good too in pvp

i dont disagree but i think that sorce doesnt have a play style
for example if i want survivability-debuffs-raid bosses i go necro
if i want fast lvl up-raid bosses-m.attack i go sph
if i want casting speed-slows i go sps
if i want prominence animation i go sorce...

Look Sorc with cancel is imba vs. fighters.
If you wanna pvp go for tyrant and then sak kok!

LOLOLOL noob answer ??

so you think that in every kind of class there HAS to be one that is shittiest than the others ??

lol you really know shit about l2 dude.....there is no shittiest class in overall ffs....only on different situations there are better classes than others and that's it....

lool i bet you are that kid that play's the classes ppl tell that pwn in da serva (glad, TH, HE, necro)

ROFLMAO

Mage vs mage, mage vs fighter or whatever all mages are the same. Sorcs +++ are in cancel+theblanaced stats. There is no sh1ttiest mage. As well as there is no sh1ttiest class. A sorc can do well against mages and especially fighters also. And ofc sorc has a playstyle, why not? Really now u wanna see +- of sorc vs others put in calc and after compare skills. Dunno where u got it in u'r mind sorc doesn't have slow...but whateva. Anyway reason i don't like topic is cause there is no sh1ttiest mage or even class. If u wanna ask what's the best mage for pve ofc there is a simple answer but that's all.

nope you are wrong iv played all classes and i play what i like...i bet you are the guy playing what they say on those forums and sack? go play sorce...
and yes do you know noob what means better class in pvp? the class that pwns most enemies and sorce is the worst mage
also i cant tell that sorce is good on mass...i dont give a shit if you dont agree go play sorce and sack