Ppl pls give me your opinions on the matter, especially those of you who had both Sr and He, and had enough money to equip them with more than one B (A) grade set, cause i never did
I can't decide weather i'll have elf or human archer. I know SR usually ownz He 1 Vs 1 (or it shoult cause of superior attack speed), but there are many ways to equip a char. And then comes the skills ... Man, I can tell they make the difference ..
So wich one is better in mass pvp and in sole pvp ?
And wich gear suits better an elven archer and wich is best for human, especially past lvl 76?
I play a low lvl rate server but xping doesn't scare me
Thx.

HE have more atack speed. It always pwnz other archer, coz he have a lot more of hp/cp and still have a lot of critical rate and power. Rules² on sieges and mass pvp's

SR are better to pking coz of the run speed, a fukin' awesome critical chance, and have a lot of self-buffs (thats great for unbuffed soloing)

You should choose which playstile fit to you. Anyway, if you want to own in pvp, go for hawkeye

Ummm I think SR has more Atk. Speed. Rapid Fire? HE can have more range through Snipe. The rest is just as Laury said.

Listen kid make a HK and play it, SRs PRs are for pros

LOL dad, im 32 i've played He a year ago and now i want to play again an archer, thing is I need some advices on Sr before I start it. Pls stay on topic, it wasn't about "just play".
No ofense.

I like the SR but u'll need to be an experienced player!!!HE is more easy to play!!

Well then lets some give details.

HK has critical power lvl 2 and sr lvl 0
HK has critical chance lvl 1 and the sr lvl 1
HK has dash
HK has Quiver of holding and Hawkeye skill also has pain of Sagittarius which is useful sometimes
HK has 43 CON and sr has 36... = +7 con more
HK has 30 DEX and SR has 35..= -5dex less
HK has 40 STR and SR has 36..= +4 str more

Ok the point is: HK is much better cause you can cut -9 con and get +4 str and +5 dex and be able to take some damage...you wont be a glass connon also your critical hits will make more damage,if things get hard you can always hit a dash or a snipe...plus you have a VERY nice skill called HK
SRs and PRs are really hard to handle..yes they make nice damage but both of them die easy unless you are a pro...with HK you will make VERY nice damage and take some as well and you can carry more healing and CP potions. thats all for now

Now look... That critical power is not much. It's about 10% maximum 15% more. That really doesn't matter in pvp. If it was lvl 6 it would matter, cause it would be about 50% but not lvl 2. Hell archers don't rely on critical damage, that's why there is no critical power bow. So critical power bows really suck in my opinion eg the pr. To handle a pr you really need tactic, deadeye + fatal counter REALLY KILLS. It's then when critical power is good. On hawkeye it's useless.
Well, put a th with a bow he pwns other daggers with bow cause he got both critical power LVL 6 NOT 2 and critical chance LVL 3. But then again it's just his secondary weapon.

IN THE END i say go for sr.

OR
you can go neither of them and roll a ... PHANTOM RANGER!!! best archer imo.nice speed, great damage, very useful skills (hex,slow,power break, archer cdl, life drain etc).
but if you really want to choose between those two...
HE is the newbie's choice : a good amount of hp/cp, not too many skills and easy to use.
SR however is like serenity said : for more advanced players because he's more fragile and has different skills plus with sr you can do kite-ing while HE is too damn slow.also sr has more dex => more and better criticals which are a lot more important than a tad more hp/cp.
as for equipment for 76+ : Draconic Leather Set and Draconic Bow + Focus
there aren't really other choices..

So I think i'll go for SR, honestly I wanted to do that. After allready having a He and other "easy" chars (BD Necro and SWS) think i'll try to 'go pro' ) . I just needed you to confirm SR is a gr8 archer , 'cause I saw from your other posts you know what you're talkin
Besides (curiously, no one mentioned it) SR has greater WIT MEN than HE, wich he needs due to lil' Hp/Cp.
Other than that ... U think other dyes than -5 Int / +4 Wit is worthed to put on it ? 'Cause I find Sr allready tuned up
Thanks guys.

LoL, all archers are "easy" compared to other classes, HE just are choose more often coz are really stronger. The only "pro" classes in the game are Shillien knight, gladiator/tyrant and daggers.

For dyes i recommend +4dex-4con +4str-4con +4wit-5int, i think hold+curses resist are a lot better than +1dex or +1str.

Leave the dyes setup as it is imo, you don't give a crap about +4 str. Maybe +4 dex but not str. Sr IS tuned up good. Since you can't go +men, go +wit it helps a lot when entangling.

HK has 1 less MEN than elf

"Now look... That critical power is not much. It's about 10% maximum 15% more. That really doesn't matter in pvp."

You GOT to be kidding me...lets say you have 2000 power attack and you hit for 1,500 critical 15% = about 225 damage...thats 1/6 of a mages cp and you are telling me thats not important? in a fight you mostly hit 2 criticals on enemy before he dies or bsoe or whatever so 225 x 2 = 450 damage ..

Heres how the this passive Actually work:
Critical Power 1 P.Atk. on a critical hit +32
Critical Power 2 P.Atk. on a critical hit +56
Critical Power 3 P.Atk. on a critical hit +93
Critical Power 4 P.Atk. on a critical hit +177
Critical Power 5 P.Atk. on a critical hit +295
Critical Power 6 P.Atk. on a critical hit +384

critical chance on archers is more important than critical power.what's the point in having normal normal normal crit normal instead of having normal crit normal crit normal crit?

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really? sk? daggers?
i believe you meant : overlord, gladiator/tyrant, bishop.what's hard in playing a dagger? vicious stance for pve and VS+blows in pvp.not very complicated.and SK? hate , mage weapon on drains... , shakle power break slow hex . hard? complicated ? perhaps Laury is a little slow?

overlord is very hard to play!!!