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 Post subject: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:20 pm 
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i got a situation here
hi5 server i got all top gear (oly enchant is +6)

+20 max skill cap
root never works
harmstring is good, but bishop cleanse it and EE can just block ww me..., (well i dont see SE often)
so it works pretty nice at start, i go cancel like shit and if newbie healer and i am lucky with stun, i end it in no time (especially if he tries to erase panther i take chance to stun and kill)

if he is a pro i got a prob
ok he starts kyting, propably i cant do to cancel cause he runs like shit. So i take off my bow and start hitting to win by damage, but he manaburns and starts augment nukes, my mp regen is enough to use bow nonstop...but as he slowly kills me with nukes i dont have mp to regen someway (the lame 1st class heal, or stupid drain) and if i have, they concume too much mp compering with result
so either i win by damage if i am lucky or they slowly kill me


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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:27 pm 
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tauson style:
start with a ud and buff him with mental shield cause its a higher chance youll cancel it if its the last buff on his bar
then debuffs will land

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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:31 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:33 pm 
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tanks vs healers are tough. TK has best chances vs healers, due to healing cubic and smart cubic cleaning debuffs, and ww buff, when ww is removed. 2nd comes paladin with healing capability, summon and AI/SOP. Last place are sk/da. Sk might have a decent chance if he can get sos up and with extra speed and dd kill off the healer. DA got the shortest straw from all tanks... Always, any tank vs healer use reflect magic as soon as its ready, fight in UD, Vengeance, Magic UD aaaaand now the drums >>>> + a BOW <<<< gl

PS DA should spam hamstring ;)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:52 pm 
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Liquie wrote:
tanks vs healers are tough. TK has best chances vs healers, due to healing cubic and smart cubic cleaning debuffs, and ww buff, when ww is removed. 2nd comes paladin with healing capability, summon and AI/SOP. Last place are sk/da. Sk might have a decent chance if he can get sos up and with extra speed and dd kill off the healer. DA got the shortest straw from all tanks... Always, any tank vs healer use reflect magic as soon as its ready, fight in UD, Vengeance, Magic UD aaaaand now the drums >>>> + a BOW <<<< gl

PS DA should spam hamstring ;)

i dont troll you, u didnt tell me anything i dont know
da has no cleanse (others have cubics or phoenix)
hamstring lands quite often but my ww is always blocked and bp can cleanse it
and bow i already use :(
anyway thanks for ur effort


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:01 pm 
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charging up your insane crusher at the begining and do as many as you can then change to ud +mental dagger and buff the mental shield and only after that do tod and panther cancel so you may cancel his mental shield... and keep her in perma agros use agro+hate and that h5 one that increases p def on 4 seconds between eachother so you dont get your panther erased

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:07 pm 
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I didn't know you knew as much as me, because then honestly, with da.. you got as i said before, the shorter straw.. you might just have to deal with that fact and dont rage so much when you loose vs healers. TBH for healers oly is the only way for butthurt kids to pwn something, because outside of oly healers don't do shit. Many of those butthurt players, just make healer's to pwn in oly and do not go outside of town. If they go outside, they never go solo, always with a party. Many of them just sign in for oly and dont play active healers. And recently i noticed, those who play healer are fucking annoying idiots. Lineage is just as sad sad game.

PS Just got an idea, which might help you, unless you knew this, too. Just avoid healers in oly. If you see healers on or inside oly just take a break and join oly when they are off or not inside oly. Also, a healing augment might help a bit to win, or just prelong the inevitable. Oly is all about tactics, using corners, hiding, running, all that is annoying. gl

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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:54 pm 
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Liquie wrote:
I didn't know you knew as much as me, because then honestly, with da.. you got as i said before, the shorter straw.. you might just have to deal with that fact and dont rage so much when you loose vs healers. TBH for healers oly is the only way for butthurt kids to pwn something, because outside of oly healers don't do shit. Many of those butthurt players, just make healer's to pwn in oly and do not go outside of town. If they go outside, they never go solo, always with a party. Many of them just sign in for oly and dont play active healers. And recently i noticed, those who play healer are fucking annoying idiots. Lineage is just as sad sad game.

PS Just got an idea, which might help you, unless you knew this, too. Just avoid healers in oly. If you see healers on or inside oly just take a break and join oly when they are off or not inside oly. Also, a healing augment might help a bit to win, or just prelong the inevitable. Oly is all about tactics, using corners, hiding, running, all that is annoying. gl

+1 about creating healers just for oly and spamming in town in hv. This is mostly done by EE and SE since bishop is useful for good healing. This is getting very bad especially on these kind of servers where every kid creates an EE for oly ...
But anyway on topic if the healer is skilled there is nothing u can do , doesn't matter how hard u try .. But try stunlock him and pray for an insane crusher crit :)


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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:03 pm 
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Yesterday i had oly game vs the best cardi at my server and when i saw vs i thought ..ok -10
I am Hk ofc.
Lucky or not i won by Damage which is the most possible way to win a cardi, if you survive till the end
you possible win .I made him 20k damage and he about 8k.
I start game spamming -agrro -root-slow and hitting with all i have ,till he burns all my mp he got
decent damage on him.
Then i go on anti magic armor and used Life Force talisman to recover my mp.So again hitting him + spamming root-agro-slow till
my mp goes about 500-600.Then i stay somewhere near a corner using my 3 uds +bow till end of game...
end of game i had about 3k hp left.
Anyway i hate mp burners :P


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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:42 pm 
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maybe he didnt had enough augments

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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:45 pm 
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hdtv wrote:
maybe he didnt had enough augments


at least 4 nukes..anyway i still believe i win 1-2/5 games with him.


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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:06 pm 
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Hamstring, agro -p.def, bow, panther cancel, panther attack, or just run with pre crusher and gg


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 Post subject: Re: hi5 hell knight vs healers
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:12 am 
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hamstring lands quite often,bow, panther cancel


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