Lineage 2 Game PMfun Forum :: Question About Double demage hit + dyes?

Yes in others server exemple interlude, i have tested +str -con and i feel difference, like when i stab ppl i made more lethals like i made the guy still with 0 hp all the tme, one hit and down, but in this server lethals never work good, and u can make all the time criticals in blows with + dex - str.
So somethins is not good with this server features.

exactly there is difrence between GF and intelude in gf dyes for dagers +4 wit +4con +4dex -8str -4int,and there is no lethal in gf.

deviantftw wrote:

exactly there is difrence between GF and intelude in gf dyes for dagers +4 wit +4con +4dex -8str -4int,and there is no lethal in gf.

BEKC wrote:

deviantftw wrote:

exactly there is difrence between GF and intelude in gf dyes for dagers +4 wit +4con +4dex -8str -4int,and there is no lethal in gf.

We talk about freya here, -str is epic fail, but yes sometimes formulas are fuc*ed up and crappy dyes come handy..
Well best setup is +4 str - con nowadays, but in that svr +5 dex - con / wit +4 - int prolly ..

+str dyes=bigger chance to land a critical hit with blows (2ble dmg).Doesnt affect crit dmg or chance to land blows.

+dex dyes=better evasion (must vs tanks mainly),bigger running speed (more chances to escape a hard situation),better attk speed

-con dyes=pure fail (my opinion)

The chance to land a crit hit with +str dyes compared to - str dyes is way too small to be considered
noticeable (much less than 10%).

Thus i strongly reccomend to choose the +dex +con -str dyes if u wanna survive in mass pvps or dont
use dyes at all.
If ur char is endgame (with epics ofc) and u like ninja style then go for +str -con dyes.

i strongly recommend to don't listen to him, c4 warrior...

-con is fail? W T F? ! ?

Don't listen to this guy above or you gonna get raped by elpys

7r0yan wrote:

i strongly recommend to don't listen to him, c4 warrior...

-con is fail? W T F? ! ?

Don't listen to this guy above or you gonna get raped by elpys

Afaik u are the one playing il servers not me.All my points were elaborated so sb is free to
disagree on sth by giving his opinion not by trashtalking.

And whether you like it or not -con dyes is pure suicide.You wont last a second vs 2-3 enemies
or even u can get 2 shot by mages.U look like u havent played a dagger before or lack experience
so refrain from giving bullshit advice.

@deviant dude +str doesnt give + dmg to ur blows at any server.The only reason ppl use +str dyes
is for more chances to make double dmg..However the chance to land them with +str is not much
bigger than -str dyes.

Author:	deviantftw [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:28 pm ]
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Hello guys I dont know if this server gracia final the set up is not good, but i have tested use +str dyes and the pvp was veryyyyy bad. When i use dyes +str that raise the % to i make more double demage on the enemy? Because about critical i make a lot of criticals when i use +dex so i see no difference when i used +str, the only bad difference i saw was, i was so slow in speed and not have a lot HP to make 2x1 or some like that if i alone in pvp i got pwned using +str if i use +dex +con and +wit i feel i can pwn 2x1 exemple. The inventory is so lowww to use more cps and others items if i take -con. Well i dont know if this server is strange or what, but +str is not working good or im dont see the difference. Someone can understand me or im crazy?

Author:	GoDs3nD [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:30 pm ]
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then ur server has wrong formulas! uve just found out the way the stabs work on ur sv so use the setup that fits your server! simple as that

Author:	deviantftw [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:36 pm ]
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Yes in others server exemple interlude, i have tested +str -con and i feel difference, like when i stab ppl i made more lethals like i made the guy still with 0 hp all the tme, one hit and down, but in this server lethals never work good, and u can make all the time criticals in blows with + dex - str. So somethins is not good with this server features.

Author:	BEKC [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:51 pm ]
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deviantftw wrote: Yes in others server exemple interlude, i have tested +str -con and i feel difference, like when i stab ppl i made more lethals like i made the guy still with 0 hp all the tme, one hit and down, but in this server lethals never work good, and u can make all the time criticals in blows with + dex - str. So somethins is not good with this server features. exactly there is difrence between GF and intelude in gf dyes for dagers +4 wit +4con +4dex -8str -4int,and there is no lethal in gf.

Author:	IdooL [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:55 pm ]
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BEKC wrote: exactly there is difrence between GF and intelude in gf dyes for dagers +4 wit +4con +4dex -8str -4int,and there is no lethal in gf. PLS tell me u didn't said that.

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Author:	Stef [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:32 pm ]
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c1 - interlude use CON +4 DEX +4 WIT +4 STR -8 INT -4 TheKamael - H5 use STR +4 CON -4 WIT +5 INT -5

Author:	terr1bl3 [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:57 pm ]
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BEKC wrote: deviantftw wrote: Yes in others server exemple interlude, i have tested +str -con and i feel difference, like when i stab ppl i made more lethals like i made the guy still with 0 hp all the tme, one hit and down, but in this server lethals never work good, and u can make all the time criticals in blows with + dex - str. So somethins is not good with this server features. exactly there is difrence between GF and intelude in gf dyes for dagers +4 wit +4con +4dex -8str -4int,and there is no lethal in gf. We talk about freya here, -str is epic fail, but yes sometimes formulas are fuc*ed up and crappy dyes come handy.. Well best setup is +4 str - con nowadays, but in that svr +5 dex - con / wit +4 - int prolly ..

Author:	BEKC [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:01 pm ]
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terr1bl3 wrote: BEKC wrote: deviantftw wrote: Yes in others server exemple interlude, i have tested +str -con and i feel difference, like when i stab ppl i made more lethals like i made the guy still with 0 hp all the tme, one hit and down, but in this server lethals never work good, and u can make all the time criticals in blows with + dex - str. So somethins is not good with this server features. exactly there is difrence between GF and intelude in gf dyes for dagers +4 wit +4con +4dex -8str -4int,and there is no lethal in gf. We talk about freya here, -str is epic fail, but yes sometimes formulas are fuc*ed up and crappy dyes come handy.. Well best setup is +4 str - con nowadays, but in that svr +5 dex - con / wit +4 - int prolly .. in gf/ge str dont effect blows dont talk when you dont know ok ?

Author:	terr1bl3 [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:08 pm ]
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kk pro use -8 str lol.. And what affects blows ? Dex?

Author:	NightMar3 [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:30 pm ]
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+str dyes=bigger chance to land a critical hit with blows (2ble dmg).Doesnt affect crit dmg or chance to land blows. +dex dyes=better evasion (must vs tanks mainly),bigger running speed (more chances to escape a hard situation),better attk speed -con dyes=pure fail (my opinion) The chance to land a crit hit with +str dyes compared to - str dyes is way too small to be considered noticeable (much less than 10%). Thus i strongly reccomend to choose the +dex +con -str dyes if u wanna survive in mass pvps or dont use dyes at all. If ur char is endgame (with epics ofc) and u like ninja style then go for +str -con dyes.

Author:	7r0yan [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:04 pm ]
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NightMar3 wrote: +str dyes=bigger chance to land a critical hit with blows (2ble dmg).Doesnt affect crit dmg or chance to land blows. +dex dyes=better evasion (must vs tanks mainly),bigger running speed (more chances to escape a hard situation),better attk speed -con dyes=pure fail (my opinion) The chance to land a crit hit with +str dyes compared to - str dyes is way too small to be considered noticeable (much less than 10%). Thus i strongly reccomend to choose the +dex +con -str dyes if u wanna survive in mass pvps or dont use dyes at all. If ur char is endgame (with epics ofc) and u like ninja style then go for +str -con dyes. i strongly recommend to don't listen to him, c4 warrior... -con is fail? W T F? ! ? Don't listen to this guy above or you gonna get raped by elpys

Author:	deviantftw [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:32 pm ]
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If i use -con and -dex in this server i get raped all the time vs elpy , i make same demage that one noob with +dex +con made me, so i really dont understand guys i think in ur server +str -con is facking good but in this server l2toxic gf i dont get satisfaction using +str -con, one thing is, i fight alone never use healer, i think if i get one personal healer +str -con maybe will be good.

Author:	NightMar3 [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:37 pm ]
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7r0yan wrote: i strongly recommend to don't listen to him, c4 warrior... -con is fail? W T F? ! ? Don't listen to this guy above or you gonna get raped by elpys Afaik u are the one playing il servers not me.All my points were elaborated so sb is free to disagree on sth by giving his opinion not by trashtalking. And whether you like it or not -con dyes is pure suicide.You wont last a second vs 2-3 enemies or even u can get 2 shot by mages.U look like u havent played a dagger before or lack experience so refrain from giving bullshit advice. @deviant dude +str doesnt give + dmg to ur blows at any server.The only reason ppl use +str dyes is for more chances to make double dmg..However the chance to land them with +str is not much bigger than -str dyes.

Author:	deviantftw [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:14 pm ]
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NightMar3 wrote: 7r0yan wrote: i strongly recommend to don't listen to him, c4 warrior... -con is fail? W T F? ! ? Don't listen to this guy above or you gonna get raped by elpys Afaik u are the one playing il servers not me.All my points were elaborated so sb is free to disagree on sth by giving his opinion not by trashtalking. And whether you like it or not -con dyes is pure suicide.You wont last a second vs 2-3 enemies or even u can get 2 shot by mages.U look like u havent played a dagger before or lack experience so refrain from giving bullshit advice. @deviant dude +str doesnt give + dmg to ur blows at any server.The only reason ppl use +str dyes is for more chances to make double dmg..However the chance to land them with +str is not much bigger than -str dyes. I never said str dyes have more change to give more demage on blows, i asking if the +str dyes give % of double demage, and if give a lot of % and is recommend than i go try again +str, be the way for me is very hard to play -con without one personal healer, because if i fight vs 2 random dagger, 4 backstab kick my ass when i try to fight vs the other dagger xD

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Author:	terr1bl3 [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:27 pm ]
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Yeah increasing str gives you more chance for 2x blow dmg ( idk how much % ), but if u put +str u will go -con cuz lowering dex on th is bad. If u dont like this ninja style choose the dyes that suits you. Imo +5 dex - Con is nice cuz u have low dex, nice str and allot of con or no dyes at all.