Lineage 2 Game PMfun Forum :: S.Templar vs Archmage oly

If all is normal u should open the fight with TOD 100% wearing a ROBE and the best acumen weapon u can find. After that u use lightning if it lands - BOW + HEX and i think u`ll be pretty much the winner. TOD as u know can cancel some buffs (and decreases debuff resistance) so it might be easier to land lightning strike afterward and some hex. All i can say for now Just VS mages use ROBE.

He is playing a high rate java server, the difference between a tank m.def and the mage m.def ain`t big specially in humans ( since mages max the WIT and INT at the end u have a -8/9 MEN depending on the 3rd dye )

x35 server
l2j

eq +6 full IC set
+7 tts set
fb+health+focus(augument on +health chance:cod(very low) aug on +focus silence active(low c spd low reuse etc etc
both +7
som+mag power(no aug)

my oponent uses dc set(+?!)
am +~9(proly matk aug)

i have all buff staffs

Last night i pvped with a fuking sorc
im lvl 80 st with full tt set (overenchanted)
i couldnt kick that guys ass..

the sorc starts with surender+vort+slug or whatever it was and im half past gone..got btb staff+FB+hp and +focus

tryed different tacticts

shield bash+root
ud+root
even tryed nooking
nothing works ffs

when the vort lands my atk is lol like..

Author:	GoDs3nD [ Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:58 pm ]
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Last night i pvped with a fuking sorc im lvl 80 st with full tt set (overenchanted) i couldnt kick that guys ass.. the sorc starts with surender+vort+slug or whatever it was and im half past gone..got btb staff+FB+hp and +focus tryed different tacticts shield bash+root ud+root even tryed nooking nothing works ffs when the vort lands my atk is lol like..

Author:	Vawned [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:40 am ]
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Nukers pwz at oly. Did you tried ToD and Lightning? The Vortex Debuff is not supposed to lift after the Slug/Crusher/Buster?

Author:	PaaGRIO [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:27 am ]
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In order for a decent tactic advice i think u have to give us some more info about both of your equipment +armor/s: +jewelry: +enchant state of your equip/how much u 2 have enchanted the equipment: +dyes: +weapon/s: +AUGMENT: +java/smth else: +chronicle ( since u have vortex slugs and shit, must be some gracia java i suppose, don`t get me wrong i play a cracia pvp java server now so no hard feelings ) Basically that`s all the info i need and maybe i can help u. Keep one thing in mind after interlude the most important thing is AUGMENT so go get some life stones and hope for active: M.barrier lvl 10 If all is normal u should open the fight with TOD 100% wearing a ROBE and the best acumen weapon u can find. After that u use lightning if it lands - BOW + HEX and i think u`ll be pretty much the winner. TOD as u know can cancel some buffs so it might be easier to land lightning strike afterward and some hex. All i can say for now Just VS mages use ROBE.

Author:	RAFAR [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:20 am ]
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PaaGRIO wrote: If all is normal u should open the fight with TOD 100% wearing a ROBE and the best acumen weapon u can find. After that u use lightning if it lands - BOW + HEX and i think u`ll be pretty much the winner. TOD as u know can cancel some buffs (and decreases debuff resistance) so it might be easier to land lightning strike afterward and some hex. All i can say for now Just VS mages use ROBE. I would try with tallum robe because of its mdef bonus and a well-enchanted mira with magic power - that would give nearly double matk for debuffs. And, a passive lv10 mbarrier would be better from augment, since it cant be cancelled.

Author:	Shaddow [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:55 pm ]
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Since you can get 5 buffs at oly...yeaa...nukers are good in oly to. As a tank you have low chances against them...but you can kill them! My advice is to stay close to him....if you hit him constant then he wont be able to cast. So when the mach beggins IS A MUST to be near him...don't let him runn from you...and start with shield bash...after only normal atk. You have to be fast ...very fast if you want to win. Don't try to cast debuffs against a class that have more casting speed then you !!! You will fail ! Mages have huge mdef for your debuffs...but low pdef for your patk...they can't run from you !!! My opinion against mages ....you have to kill them using your best...SPEED and ATK SPEED.Hit them only with normal atk and use only fastest debuffs...hex...shield bash...and sting..don't cast lighting against a mage...the cast is too damm slow and the chance to land is minimal.In the time you cast he will debbuf you like hell or even kill you. In this mode you will have more chances to win.

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Author:	PaaGRIO [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:44 pm ]
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He is playing a high rate java server, the difference between a tank m.def and the mage m.def ain`t big specially in humans ( since mages max the WIT and INT at the end u have a -8/9 MEN depending on the 3rd dye ) sorceror: -8 MEN / tateosan set +6 : 1011 m.def selfbuffed / in dc robe : 997 m.def shillen templar no dyes selfbuffed :971 / in tallum robe : 1040 m.def More than that the magic mirror can reflect some debuffs. Now proly things like anti magic armor are not yet implemented in your server so i wont consider them. Try what i told u and maybe u have a chance. Thou if the sorc has all the boss jewels u`ll proly loose

Author:	Icarus [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:01 pm ]
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Well, the archmage has edges over melees, that's the main problem. Fire vortex = -30% atk speed. Anyway i suggest root + ud, and DON'T forget touch of death and aggro. Aggro is very important, but it may not work properly on most servers.

Author:	GoDs3nD [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:50 pm ]
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x35 server l2j eq +6 full IC set +7 tts set fb+health+focus(augument on +health chance:cod(very low) aug on +focus silence active(low c spd low reuse etc etc both +7 som+mag power(no aug) my oponent uses dc set(+?!) am +~9(proly matk aug) i have all buff staffs

Author:	Vawned [ Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:54 pm ]
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Nice jewels.

Author:	Shaddow [ Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:15 pm ]
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PaaGRIO wrote: He is playing a high rate java server, the difference between a tank m.def and the mage m.def ain`t big specially in humans ( since mages max the WIT and INT at the end u have a -8/9 MEN depending on the 3rd dye ) I was sayng about about his magic power vs mages mdef. The diference betwen ST Int and Archmage Int is huge and same for MEN stats. ST INT -25 vs Archmage Int -41(45);ST men-25 vs AM men -39(31). Same for Wit .ST has slow casting. 12 WIT (maibe 16) So it will have low chances to cast and land something on that mage. If the distance betwen you 2 is short he will run...if you stop to cast something he will cast too...and you lose without a chance. That's why I said him to try by normal atk - coz of his dex...if he starts the mach near mage and hit him constant it has some chances. For me it woks many times....after I intrerupt them 2-3 times...they panicate and hit only with normal magic(because of fast cast) and forget about vortex and other slow debuffs.(ofc not all panicate) Maibe it works on you to... I said my opinion...I don't know if is good coz I don't have many mach's at oly with SK.

Author:	GoDs3nD [ Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:56 pm ]
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the mirror skills work absdolutely properly the serv is rly well organized when we start the pvp he is just runing around ffs ofc i try to root him but root goes thrue the wit modifyer..well no chance ofc i hate but that guy aint noobo

Author:	Icarus [ Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:51 am ]
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I think that's a problem on fusion. The land rate of tank root is too low. Normally, you get rooted almost every time. And as rumors say, arrest and shackle seem to go through the wit modifier all right, but there's evidence of con influencing it too. That means we got a tie.

Author:	Sekkurel [ Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:00 pm ]
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if he starts running get a drac bow and start hitting that way cubics will also work on him ( poison hex vampiric ) and you can sometimes inturupt his cast and as far as i know IC set doesnt give any mdef bonus so switch to a maj light set to have the upper hand in using a bow at him laso if its + 6 = more mdef for you = more chances of winning always ( as a tank ) get a bow in oly its very usefull against running guys

Author:	nonelikeme [ Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:44 pm ]
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GoDs3nD wrote: x35 server l2j eq +6 full IC set +7 tts set fb+health+focus(augument on +health chance:cod(very low) aug on +focus silence active(low c spd low reuse etc etc both +7 som+mag power(no aug) my oponent uses dc set(+?!) am +~9(proly matk aug) i have all buff staffs didnt u said that vs mages is better to use dc heavy set???(or icarus said this but doesnt matter cuz u agree with him always)

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Author:	SoulBender [ Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: S.Templar vs Archmage oly
GoDs3nD wrote: Last night i pvped with a fuking sorc im lvl 80 st with full tt set (overenchanted) i couldnt kick that guys ass.. the sorc starts with surender+vort+slug or whatever it was and im half past gone..got btb staff+FB+hp and +focus tryed different tacticts shield bash+root ud+root even tryed nooking nothing works ffs when the vort lands my atk is lol like.. get a bow if he kites you , if not you should win .... maybe you have shit jewels ? and btw always get magical mirror on ya , if you are lucky to reflect either slow or vortex u can beat him try also vengeance , with that high mdef u should resist all curses and maybe reflect on him