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DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
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Author:  tiger12 [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
In a few days i will start in a low rate gracia epilogue and i will make Dark avenger ! ! ! So i like tanks and PvPs..Tell me your opinios for these compinations: 1) mj heavy set+forgoten blade health and dyes +4 str -4 con 2)tallum heavy set+forgoten blade health +4str - 4 con...I pick forgoten blade health to cover the armor stats you know guys +2str -2 con..So what do you think is better for pvps and if you have something other to prefer me "i am all ears".Thnx a lot for your replies...
Author:  Lhyno [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
da is the worst from all 4, but
nm heavy +5str -5con, +wit maybe[though i never put anything on]
Author:  NoFreaksAllowed [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
always use focus :)
Author:  Xmvp [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
ExTReM3BG wrote:
pmfun is not best place where you can ask such question, better ask on other place


Yes, pmfun is filled with idiots like u who dont know a god damn shit about this game .. sad ;/
Author:  eighteen_qq [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
actually, DA > sk in oly always. never have i seen a single SK that could pawn DAs.
vs PK, TK, if touch of death lands -> they are screwed. if not, DAs dont have many chances of winning the fight, but, however, it's a matter of chance. vs pks, if slam lands, they're fucked as well. vs tks, if slam lands, they'll probably cure it with their smart cubic.

however, its a matter of using some skills at a certain time.
start oly fight by using touch of death, keep your opponent aggroed on yourself, rather that on panther. however, when he starts to switch targets, just use shield of faith, to keep the panther alive as much as you can. spam stun/slam, when he eventually kills your panther just stun him, run away, put your homunculus+acumen and summon another panther.

regarding your equip, keep one fb+health+divine stones eventually, start the fight with it and use fb+focus+dark stones AFTER your health drops below that 25% extra. keep in mind you'll have to have a bow too and a mage weapon+acumen, for your beloved panther.
i always used NM hvy on my DA. +reflect buff +shield of revenge = nice quantity of damage returned. ye, you COULD keep one majestic set, when fighting vs tanks, for that extra stun resist, but all in all, go get some IC, and TTS jwls.
aim for a passive +pdef augment, and that's all

vs mages use shield of faith in the beginning, pawn them as hard as you can, and after that use shield deflect magic - they'll die from reflect definetly.

your weapons are your skills: you should harmstring all classes, keep them shackled and use your bow when they're running

i tried to say smth in general about hellknights, but, however, if you need more detailed info, just ask :)

oh, i forgot: dont put -con dyes. you should put -2dex +2str, eventually. BUT, when and IF you get the seed of revenge skill, you should put +5con, -5dex, for oly. the more damage you get, the more patk you have. the more health you have -> the more damage you get.
Author:  7r0yan [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
Use dyes +5 str - 5 con, ur not tank bcoz of a hp, focus weapon always, and i would use holy or other shit instead of dark
Author:  guzeris [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
da was made kinda imba in later c's , TOD + panthers cancel, = buffles char. and other tank will have to hit him withc means reflect wil ldo dmg back to him.
Author:  Vortex [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
guzeris wrote:
TOD + panthers cancel, = buffles char.
don't forget insane crusher (if it's a high lvl DA) which also cancels some buffs and does decent dmg
Author:  BasicBasics [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:32 pm ]
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eighteen_qq wrote:
actually, DA > sk in oly always. never have i seen a single SK that could pawn DAs.

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Author:  Lhyno [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
ExTReM3BG wrote:
with new skills DA is not so shit chars specially for pvp, but use focus SA and dont decrease con. Best set for tank is NM, from tallum and maj you dont have shield def bonuses. But if you can have S weapon with SA why you will be with A grade armor? IC set is easier than S weapon + SA



pmfun is not best place where you can ask such question, better ask on other place


cuz s weapon cost 30 coins and ic set only 20?
Author:  NoFreaksAllowed [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
Can Extreme be banned please?
Author:  NoFreaksAllowed [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
Ill tell u whos gonna be shotted fuktard..
Author:  7r0yan [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
Vortex wrote:
guzeris wrote:
TOD + panthers cancel, = buffles char.
don't forget insane crusher (if it's a high lvl DA) which also cancels some buffs and does decent dmg


On olympiad ye, but outside with full buff panther is too easy to kill, few nukes, tss, it gets stunned easy by tanks, betray etc ;d

/request for banning extreme
Author:  guzeris [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
7r0yan wrote:
Vortex wrote:
guzeris wrote:
TOD + panthers cancel, = buffles char.
don't forget insane crusher (if it's a high lvl DA) which also cancels some buffs and does decent dmg


On olympiad ye, but outside with full buff panther is too easy to kill, few nukes, tss, it gets stunned easy by tanks, betray etc ;d

/request for banning extreme

ofc we are talking about oly.
Author:  eighteen_qq [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DARK AVENGER-HELL KNIGHT---->PVP QUESTION ! ! !
kamaels are problems in oly for hell knights? how?

fight vs soulhounds without any buffs / without using any of your UDs, cuz he will steal them. just spam shackle / harmstring / stun / slam if you can catch him

and vs zerkers, just use fortitude and try to spam slam on him, so that he wouldnt be able to use body reconstruction. even if he uses it, he shouldnt have taken your cp by that time. however, some zerkers use majestic when fighting vs tanks, but that shouldnt be a problem. when having +150 weap element and no armor element on kamael's majestic, your panther will be o/ped, so that would do most of the job.

and tricksters....well, never have i seen a trickster hero without being fed. the only class they can beat is titan, i think, because titans dont have running speed at all, and the only thing tricksters are good for is running. at least it was this way on all servers i played :)
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