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Author:  dude55 [ Sat May 31, 2008 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Necro vs summoner
Well i have a way to play againest summoner but even if i keep doing that i can't win. plz tell me what u know about this matchup and how to win.
I'M THE SOULTAKER NOT THE SUMMONER
Author:  Icarus [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:03 am ]
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I didn't understand anything from your post. :|

To beat a necro you just need some luck. If anchor/CoD/silence lands on you, say your prayers.
If you have a warlock, it's simple: arcane disruption on the necro, mage bane, wind shackle on his summon. Get your bow out and start shooting at the necro, while your summon deals with his summon. I'm telling you to fire upon the necro, because you have a dangerous cubic : binding cubic. If it lands it's bye.
If you have a phantom summoner, mage bane, wind shackle his summon. Get your bow out, start shooting at the necro (you have 2 VERY dangerous cubics). Once his summon is dead, the rest is easy. The necro will occationally get stunned, maybe he will be hexed too.
On elemental summoner... I lack the proper knowledge to be honest, but he has the least chances to kill a necro imo.

DO NOT FORGET TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR SUMMON'S HP! Heal it when it needs.

Also remember that if you play high rate servers where everyone's fully buffed, you don't stand a chance against a necro. The summoners are very powerful in oly and self buffed pvp.
Author:  Lhyno [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:15 am ]
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As warlock I always casted mage bane first, then arcane, then betray on necro's summon so the transfer pain won't take effect[if I know it good or at least takes a few hit on necro], then a warrior bane for the necro continouosly, so the cubics will attack and she/he can't use up haste potions for long time.

The strongest poiont of it is the mage bane. After it took effect, you won.
Author:  Sekkurel [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:16 am ]
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Icarus wrote:
I didn't understand anything from your post. :|

To beat a necro you just need some luck. If anchor/CoD/silence lands on you, say your prayers.
If you have a warlock, it's simple: arcane disruption on the necro, mage bane, wind shackle on his summon. Get your bow out and start shooting at the necro, while your summon deals with his summon. I'm telling you to fire upon the necro, because you have a dangerous cubic : binding cubic. If it lands it's bye.
If you have a phantom summoner, mage bane, wind shackle his summon. Get your bow out, start shooting at the necro (you have 2 VERY dangerous cubics). Once his summon is dead, the rest is easy. The necro will occationally get stunned, maybe he will be hexed too.
On elemental summoner... I lack the proper knowledge to be honest, but he has the least chances to kill a necro imo.

DO NOT FORGET TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR SUMMON'S HP! Heal it when it needs.

Also remember that if you play high rate servers where everyone's fully buffed, you don't stand a chance against a necro. The summoners are very powerful in oly and self buffed pvp.

i have to correct you in the high rate coment :))
i have seenservers that hade npc buffers for msummons :)
so the summon can become like a rb or something :))
in other words there the summoners were overpowered
Author:  Icarus [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:18 am ]
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Yeah, i forgot to mention, if there are such buffers summoners are op. :)

To be a basic balance, the dance and songs should be PARTY given, meaning that the summon gets them too.
Author:  dude55 [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 pm ]
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not regular pvp. oly pvp. no buffs only staff ones. and i'm the necro not the summoner
Author:  Icarus [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:32 pm ]
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Lol sorry about that. Just do the opposite. You know the summoner's strategy, use it.
Keep the summon far away from the summoner. That's a good way to win. You will have transfer pain, and he will also have.
Author:  SirAdrian [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:33 pm ]
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Icarus wrote:
I didn't understand anything from your post. :|

To beat a necro you just need some luck. If anchor/CoD/silence lands on you, say your prayers.
If you have a warlock, it's simple: arcane disruption on the necro, mage bane, wind shackle on his summon. Get your bow out and start shooting at the necro, while your summon deals with his summon. I'm telling you to fire upon the necro, because you have a dangerous cubic : binding cubic. If it lands it's bye.
If you have a phantom summoner, mage bane, wind shackle his summon. Get your bow out, start shooting at the necro (you have 2 VERY dangerous cubics). Once his summon is dead, the rest is easy. The necro will occationally get stunned, maybe he will be hexed too.
On elemental summoner... I lack the proper knowledge to be honest, but he has the least chances to kill a necro imo.

DO NOT FORGET TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR SUMMON'S HP! Heal it when it needs.

Also remember that if you play high rate servers where everyone's fully buffed, you don't stand a chance against a necro. The summoners are very powerful in oly and self buffed pvp.

i'm quite sure you haven't played a warlock before...
1.warlock does not have wind shackle
2.why use bow?for shitty damage and low attack speed?
3.first betray,then warrior bane(oly doesn't give acumen/empower) then arcane disruption until it lands.
4.necro deals pretty good damage with gloom+dark vortex+death spike combo so you need to heal you and your summon instead of using your bow.if all goes well and healing is not that needed and the curses didn't land,you could equip duals/dagger and attack necro for cubics.
Author:  Icarus [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:37 pm ]
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Why use your bow? For the cubics to activate, mate.
Yes, i didn't say anything about betray, i thought it goes without saying.
Hmm why was i under the impression wk has wind shackle? :|
Author:  dude55 [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:56 pm ]
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keep the summon far away from the summoner? that a lol no?...
Author:  Lhyno [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:06 pm ]
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Note that haste2 + duals/dagger have way more atkspd/hits to make the cubics activate, also the casting if you have buffs.
Author:  SirAdrian [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:55 pm ]
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i believe it was about oly-style...so better than using a bow which is veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery slow on a mage..use duals/dagger like i said.only if you must of course.



but the author asked about how to kill a summoner.well it's all about luck...the ammount of debuffs you can land on the summoner/summon.if doom/silence lands,then it's easy win.kill the summon and then the summoner.
also remember to use the summon's skills if you use zombie/doll
Author:  dude55 [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:26 am ]
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well sir that's usually how i do it but the thing is nothing lands! =/ so i never win againest it... that's why i asked about smth else...
Author:  Powah [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:08 am ]
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Use curse disease on summon. Heals are useless then just nuke and finish summoner after death of his servitor.
Author:  Shalana [ Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:10 pm ]
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Warlock does not have Wind shackle, but PS has. And our friend said PS not WK, read again carefully.
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