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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:01 am 
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some advices would be grate ! thx :P

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:23 am 
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5dex/5str 4wit/4int

These dyes are better than anythink.
A friend of mine , actual hero on Franz have this setup and they really work.
Anyway , on Hellbound PW>all in oly as he was saying to me. A skill called Wind Riding really says everythink. Dunno , i don't play on offie and don't know about many new things .


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:16 pm 
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Wind Riding:
Storm the battlefield riding the wind. Increase your Spd./Evasion/Deadly attack rate/Physical skill Evasion ability. :shock:

Also the ghost hunter has a skill that gives him the same abilities called Ghost Walking!
Also the adventurer has a skill that gives him the same abilities called Exciting Adventure!

As you understand all the dagger-type classes have this skill!!! Only the name changes!! :D


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:58 pm 
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lower ur STR to put to DEX and CON, especialy in pvp. STR is not that important for a dagger, but dex and con is.

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D0N wrote:
Wind Riding:
Storm the battlefield riding the wind. Increase your Spd./Evasion/Deadly attack rate/Physical skill Evasion ability. :shock:

Also the ghost hunter has a skill that gives him the same abilities called Ghost Walking!
Also the adventurer has a skill that gives him the same abilities called Exciting Adventure!

As you understand all the dagger-type classes have this skill!!! Only the name changes!! :D


He told me that Wind Riding > rest of them even if in description says the same things.

If they were equal why they don't have only one name who will switch for all of them like Assasination, Sixth Sense , Critical Wound etc , you know what i mean.

@Edited. redpill STR since c5 it is important on daggers so i advice Cristi not to decrease more than 5 STR only if he's playng c4.


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well, sorry, me bad in this case

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Well i think the difference in names is only because they are different races!!!
Maybe NCSoft thought to give the same skill at dagger-type classes but with different name just to sounds more good for each race!! :lol:
In other words i wanna say:
-WIND Rider ---> WIND Riding
-GHOST Hunter ---> GHOST Walking
-ADVENTURER ---> Exciting ADVENTURE

For more information: Lineage2.com :P

Now about STR u r absolute right KentZ0ne!!! STR after C5 affects daggers!!!

@ Cristi:
I had the same question (for my AW) and some ppl, from this forum, informed me well about how STR affects blow skills!!

For more information, search the topic:
Forum ---> PvP ---> AW.....!!! :D


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KentZ0ne wrote:
D0N wrote:
Wind Riding:
Storm the battlefield riding the wind. Increase your Spd./Evasion/Deadly attack rate/Physical skill Evasion ability. :shock:

Also the ghost hunter has a skill that gives him the same abilities called Ghost Walking!
Also the adventurer has a skill that gives him the same abilities called Exciting Adventure!

As you understand all the dagger-type classes have this skill!!! Only the name changes!! :D


He told me that Wind Riding > rest of them even if in description says the same things.

If they were equal why they don't have only one name who will switch for all of them like Assasination, Sixth Sense , Critical Wound etc , you know what i mean.

@Edited. redpill STR since c5 it is important on daggers so i advice Cristi not to decrease more than 5 STR only if he's playng c4.


lol..str influences very bit the landin rate+pw has focus death that is pawning allawayes..u maximize dex=higher speed for u
u higher con=u have higher stun res hp.cp..


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KentZ0ne wrote:
D0N wrote:
Wind Riding:
Storm the battlefield riding the wind. Increase your Spd./Evasion/Deadly attack rate/Physical skill Evasion ability. :shock:

Also the ghost hunter has a skill that gives him the same abilities called Ghost Walking!
Also the adventurer has a skill that gives him the same abilities called Exciting Adventure!

As you understand all the dagger-type classes have this skill!!! Only the name changes!! :D


He told me that Wind Riding > rest of them even if in description says the same things.

If they were equal why they don't have only one name who will switch for all of them like Assasination, Sixth Sense , Critical Wound etc , you know what i mean.

@Edited. redpill STR since c5 it is important on daggers so i advice Cristi not to decrease more than 5 STR only if he's playng c4.

They give the same bonuses, i don't know if your friend is 100% fair. The aw is one that's pwning again in hellbound, like in c4. Those debuffs to increase recieved critical damage work perfect with that critical power passive.
Ofc they nerfed hex a bit, now it's about 0.6 land rate as i heard, but casts easier.

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GoDs3nD wrote:
lol..str influences very bit the landin rate+pw has focus death that is pawning allawayes..u maximize dex=higher speed for u
u higher con=u have higher stun res hp.cp..


There are 3 things on a dagger :

Blow land rate;
Critical on skill land rate;
and Lethals land rate (lethal A and lethal B);

STR gives the 2'nd thing; for example 2xBS. end of story.

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They give the same bonuses, i don't know if your friend is 100% fair. The aw is one that's pwning again in hellbound, like in c4. Those debuffs to increase recieved critical damage work perfect with that critical power passive.
Ofc they nerfed hex a bit, now it's about 0.6 land rate as i heard, but casts easier.

Players like Adris,Kashej or ReckLess sayed that PW on Hellbound really rocks.

Wind Riding:
Storm the battlefield riding the wind. Increase your Spd./Evasion/
Deadly attack rate/Physical skill Evasion ability.

This thing is probably lethal B and we know that PW is equilibrated more than AW so it will be much easyer to pvp.
And yes i'm starting to think that Rogue Elves are heading more and more to PvP section instead of DE and Humans who are heading more to a PvE'er system rather than PvP.
AW lays on hex and that CD lvl6 , CD lvl6 give about what? 230dmg-300?
Maybe those 81 skills are really somethink and it's better to have CON and DEX than STR , hex and CD lvl6 when you're lethal landing blow is awesome. It's pure theory, no base funds.


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KentZ0ne wrote:
Icarus wrote:
They give the same bonuses, i don't know if your friend is 100% fair. The aw is one that's pwning again in hellbound, like in c4. Those debuffs to increase recieved critical damage work perfect with that critical power passive.
Ofc they nerfed hex a bit, now it's about 0.6 land rate as i heard, but casts easier.

Players like Adris,Kashej or ReckLess sayed that PW on Hellbound really rocks.

Wind Riding:
Storm the battlefield riding the wind. Increase your Spd./Evasion/
Deadly attack rate/Physical skill Evasion ability.

This thing is probably lethal B and we know that PW is equilibrated more than AW so it will be much easyer to pvp.
And yes i'm starting to think that Rogue Elves are heading more and more to PvP section instead of DE and Humans who are heading more to a PvE'er system rather than PvP.
AW lays on hex and that CD lvl6 , CD lvl6 give about what? 230dmg-300?
Maybe those 81 skills are really somethink and it's better to have CON and DEX than STR , hex and CD lvl6 when you're lethal landing blow is awesome. It's pure theory, no base funds.

Listen... That's just what they said. We have no proof that the skills act differently. The description is ironically the same. Hex will reduce the enemy's pdef by 23%. Use it with expose weak point and critical wound and the damage will surely jump more. With critical power lvl 6, you have +400 patk on a critical. Compare it to the vicious stance, that gives 600. It's almost like a passive vicious stance. Now, think that when you land expose weak point and critical wound, on the gh the critical power applies again, while on the wr there's no critical power. Not to mention that the gh has hex.
Str isn't important? On my aw i don't use dyes. Why? 41 str is perfect for my skill crit rate. 34 dex is enough, and 32 con is low, indeed, but trick is there and your movement speed is good.


The point of my post is that i don't see how the wr owns in hellbound. There's nothing to point me in that direction. The pure theory sais that the damage output of the gh just got even higher than it was, compared to the wr.

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thx :D that was usefull

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KentZ0ne wrote:
5dex/5str 4wit/4int

These dyes are better than anythink.
A friend of mine , actual hero on Franz have this setup and they really work.
Anyway , on Hellbound PW>all in oly as he was saying to me. A skill called Wind Riding really says everythink. Dunno , i don't play on offie and don't know about many new things .
hmm i have a question why 4wit/4int?? what is good for?

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Cristi wrote:
why 4wit/4int?? what is good for?


# INT (INTELLIGENCE)

* affects M.Atk. stat through the INT modifier
o INT modifier forthcoming
* affects curse land rates through M.Atk.

# WIT (WISDOM)

* affects Casting Spd. stat through the WIT modifier
o each point of wit gained makes a 5% difference to Casting spd.
* affects chance of magic critical hits
* affects resistance to Hold (aka Roots) and Sleep
* affects resistance to essentially every single type of debuff not listed by the other stat



try to think a little


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:16 pm 
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Listen, stop making the classical mistake WIT = WISDOM. The word WIT is a form of intellectual activity, that's related to spirituality, it DOES NOT mean WISDOM.

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