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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:24 pm 
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Here's a topic not to spam the sk vs tyrant one.

Here's a video from Teon with dvp. At 2:04 cancel removes 11 buffs.

http://www.youtube.com/v/jCXllmWybQE

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:55 pm 
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Never got such a cancel. I know that in c4 they had no cap, but that doesn't mean it gets your whole buffbar.

I still don't know if it's influenced by matk, so an mcrit from a weak cancel would be a solution.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:47 pm 
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Cancel could remove from none to all buffs on C4.
Mental shield and chant of spirit seem to affect land rate.

After C5 it can cancel max 5 buffs. It mostly cancels the last buffs
as I have observed. So it's better to get the most useful buffs 1st.

M att has nothing to do with cancel imo Since I've seen people doing
it even w/o weapon. I could be wrong about this.

It's something like that:

0,6 land rate and Cancel lvl + Caster lvl vs target lvl and protective buffs.
There's a theory that it depends on Buff level too, tho I doubt.

That's all you need to know about how cancel works.

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since WHEN cancel is mental attack?
that means mental shield resist mage and fighter banes 2
block ww/shield


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:59 pm 
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GoDs3nD wrote:
since WHEN cancel is mental attack?
that means mental shield resist mage and fighter banes 2
block ww/shield

I said seems to. I'm not sure about it since I never tried it.
But chant of spirit / arcane protection resist it for sure.

Take someone with cancel and a buffer and test if m att/m def affects it.
Too lazy to do it myself :x

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mariosxx wrote:
GoDs3nD wrote:
since WHEN cancel is mental attack?
that means mental shield resist mage and fighter banes 2
block ww/shield

I said seems to. I'm not sure about it since I never tried it.
But chant of spirit / arcane protection resist it for sure.

Take someone with cancel and a buffer and test if m att/m def affects it.
Too lazy to do it myself :x


100% agree chant of spirit and arc prot resist em
but i wouldnt go for live testing.. u know anything could be wrong!
look even dex has its problems
so does every private server(no matter l2j team supported or on own system)

i played c4 for long time too(cuz my comp was smth like.. 256 sdr ram 128 vid and even c5 was hard for that piece of shi7) and honestly i never experienced a whole bar removement
i remember 7 even 8 buffs removed and thats why we used to put the resistance and etc buffs at the end so the vital buffs would still stay(like emp acu wm zerk btb and later goes the rest)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:01 pm 
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I'm gonna make a test at Aria.

I have sps and Xzibit has an EE.

edit: facking lol my account expired today. I guess i will get a game card tommorow >.>

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Ultimate evasion and ultimate defence also increase resistance to buff-lifting attacks. But I don't know the percentage.
I DO hit ue before jumping into combat with a sps, and it seems to resist cancel pretty well.

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Icarus wrote:
Ultimate evasion and ultimate defence also increase resistance to buff-lifting attacks. But I don't know the percentage.
I DO hit ue before jumping into combat with a sps, and it seems to resist cancel pretty well.

heroic valor also gives that effect, doesn't it?

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sorry to go offtopic but lol icarus gs and mario i'm so proud of you all.....you didn't flamed at all :')....at least yet :twisted:


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touch of life vengeance lionheart also increase resistance to cancel

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