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Author:  Amadeuz [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:22 am ]
Post subject:  Guide my paladin please . Have a cuople of questions to ask
Im currently level 60 paladin.
Armors

+3 doom heavy set
+3 Black ore set
+3 SLS focus

questions:
1) What dyes needed for solo leveling, and pvp ?
2) in pvp, fighting with a glad and Sk.. like skills and when to use it..tricks you have (strategy should i say)... thanks in advance sir

by the way is it better to have a blunt weapon rather than a sword?
Author:  Soul [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:12 pm ]
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With angelic icon on you want be able to heal yourself with holy blessing efficiently, because the heal u receive will go down to almost 20%-25%. Also if u use sacrifice, u will end up loosing hp and not gaining. The only way to use healing potinos and cp potions. About the others i have to agree with Gentlemen, u dont have many strategies to use
Author:  Ravenheart [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:50 pm ]
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paladin isn't made for pvp...at least not at low lvl.....u should go with some friends in the coloseum (an DA,a SK and a TK) and try to fight each other and see what is the best tactic....at least to survive long enough...that's my opinion!
Author:  jak_cs84 [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:53 pm ]
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Go for +4dex -4con, +4wit -5int. With a focus weapon 1/3 hits is critical. Then go for a dama focus (or kesha). When its time for A armor, my suggestion is this: go for MJ heavy and a DLE health. Your loss of con-stun resistance, will be balanced from the DLE SA and the +50% stun resistance from MJ. For pvp don't forget to keep some mp to heal yourself and to carry lots of cp pots. Paladin can be really good in 1 vs. 1 pvp if u use shackle-stun correctly. And if u can carry a bow with u (when u use ud, first heal yourself, then shackle-hit with bow).
For the sk stun him to death and u beat him, no trouble. For the gladiator... things are pretty hard until u get shield slam, but with some self heals u could have a chance. Anyway for lvling just go where the undeads are and u will have no problem (fields of massacre, forest of the dead, IT in higher lvls). For pvp just be patient until u reach higher lvl :)

P.S. 1: If u can afford it have a magic weapon for your healings. It could be usefull...
P.S. 2: When u get a health weapon, don't throw away your focus weapon. When your hp falls, switch to your focus weapon and u could inflict more dmg with criticals.
Author:  Ravenheart [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:05 am ]
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i don't think that a paladin will beat a SK so easy....just to stun him and that's it....it's more difficult...i remember u that Sk is the most offensive tank....it's hard to beat him!
Author:  lightoflife [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:35 am ]
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jak_cs84 wrote:
For the sk stun him to death and u beat him

Stun run for around 3 sec on a sk in doom
on a sk in majestic, it land badly and for no more than 2 seconds
sk arrest you and kite you with drain/LS until LS land then it's a GF, C U

i'm sub SK 62 and make many duels with a DA 74, i beat him around 50% of the time, we are both in majestic and full buffed but i have som+3 magical power for magical skills and DLE+5 critical damages for physical attack and i don't really fear his stun shield and his DP is just a joke.
And BTW, DA is more offensive than a pally so ...

to pve with your pally, increase your dex and str at max and reduce your con, go for a majestic/tallum set in A and a dasmacus oed focus or a DLE critical damages.

If you have some money, try to get an augment with ++critical.

A good thing i do when a solo is xping with a wolf.
At lvl 55 with the lowest weapon and no buff, a wolf have around 850 patk, it's a good help to xp in cata alone.
Author:  jak_cs84 [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:20 pm ]
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Guys i didn't tell that sk is for shit... He is a very tough class, and a very flexible one, we all know it... But with the dyes combination and the weapons i suggested, from my experience i win 2/3 times an sk... And trust me paladin can be excellent in 1vs.1 pvp if u balance his lack of doing dmg with critical hits and a fighter armor... But as always, not all sk are the same... P.e. with an sk with mj, +4con, dle health+som magic power things are 60%-40% for the sk between him and paladin... But we all know there is no rule in pvp. We just talk about chances...

P.S.: The DA must be really a noob if u defeated him... (and u really good :D)
Author:  Ravenheart [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:30 pm ]
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jak_cs84 wrote:
Guys i didn't tell that sk is for shit... He is a very tough class, and a very flexible one, we all know it... But with the dyes combination and the weapons i suggested, from my experience i win 2/3 times an sk... And trust me paladin can be excellent in 1vs.1 pvp if u balance his lack of doing dmg with critical hits and a fighter armor... But as always, not all sk are the same... P.e. with an sk with mj, +4con, dle health+som magic power things are 60%-40% for the sk between him and paladin... But we all know there is no rule in pvp. We just talk about chances...

P.S.: The DA must be really a noob if u defeated him... (and u really good :D)
hmm.....not the DA is the problem...i think he knows how to play an SK very well and the DA doesn't have a chance....anyway...if u kill the DA's panther...u won because the DA is nothing without his panther! and the panther is easy to kill with a weapon with magic power trust me....so...u just need how to play with the other classes,find their weaknesses!
Author:  jak_cs84 [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:38 pm ]
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Ravenheart wrote:
jak_cs84 wrote:
Guys i didn't tell that sk is for shit... He is a very tough class, and a very flexible one, we all know it... But with the dyes combination and the weapons i suggested, from my experience i win 2/3 times an sk... And trust me paladin can be excellent in 1vs.1 pvp if u balance his lack of doing dmg with critical hits and a fighter armor... But as always, not all sk are the same... P.e. with an sk with mj, +4con, dle health+som magic power things are 60%-40% for the sk between him and paladin... But we all know there is no rule in pvp. We just talk about chances...

P.S.: The DA must be really a noob if u defeated him... (and u really good :D)
hmm.....not the DA is the problem...i think he knows how to play an SK very well and the DA doesn't have a chance....anyway...if u kill the DA's panther...u won because the DA is nothing without his panther! and the panther is easy to kill with a weapon with magic power trust me....so...u just need how to play with the other classes,find their weaknesses!


Excuse me, but DA can summon second panther during a pvp... And don't forget sk weakness is his low hp. Shackle-harmstring and run far away so u can summon your second panther... And sorry for saying that, but if u spam aggression while the panther is out, u can save it from lots of dmg... Excuse me but if a DA 74 lvl can't beat an sk 62 lvl that means 2 things: The sk really knows how to play and the DA is noob.

P.S.: If DA is nothing without his panther, then paladin can never win in 1vs.1 (he has less attacking skills, he has no harmstring, he can't play with range attacks because he doesn't have any :P). DA has skills that when used properly allow him to play without his panther for a certain period of time.
Author:  Ravenheart [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:55 pm ]
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i didn't saw that difference of lvl O.o sry....maybe u are right...but...if the SK knows how to play...the DA will never get to summon the 2nd panther
Author:  Icarus [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:17 pm ]
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jak_cs84 wrote:
Ravenheart wrote:
jak_cs84 wrote:
Guys i didn't tell that sk is for shit... He is a very tough class, and a very flexible one, we all know it... But with the dyes combination and the weapons i suggested, from my experience i win 2/3 times an sk... And trust me paladin can be excellent in 1vs.1 pvp if u balance his lack of doing dmg with critical hits and a fighter armor... But as always, not all sk are the same... P.e. with an sk with mj, +4con, dle health+som magic power things are 60%-40% for the sk between him and paladin... But we all know there is no rule in pvp. We just talk about chances...

P.S.: The DA must be really a noob if u defeated him... (and u really good :D)
hmm.....not the DA is the problem...i think he knows how to play an SK very well and the DA doesn't have a chance....anyway...if u kill the DA's panther...u won because the DA is nothing without his panther! and the panther is easy to kill with a weapon with magic power trust me....so...u just need how to play with the other classes,find their weaknesses!


Excuse me, but DA can summon second panther during a pvp... And don't forget sk weakness is his low hp. Shackle-harmstring and run far away so u can summon your second panther... And sorry for saying that, but if u spam aggression while the panther is out, u can save it from lots of dmg... Excuse me but if a DA 74 lvl can't beat an sk 62 lvl that means 2 things: The sk really knows how to play and the DA is noob.

P.S.: If DA is nothing without his panther, then paladin can never win in 1vs.1 (he has less attacking skills, he has no harmstring, he can't play with range attacks because he doesn't have any :P). DA has skills that when used properly allow him to play without his panther for a certain period of time.

Come on, the cast time for that panther is rather long, even shackle can't hold the sk long enough. You summon it in what? 30 seconds at least, gives the sk plenty of time to interrupt you and to regen his hp on you.
Author:  jak_cs84 [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:15 pm ]
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Icarus wrote:
jak_cs84 wrote:
Ravenheart wrote:
jak_cs84 wrote:
Guys i didn't tell that sk is for shit... He is a very tough class, and a very flexible one, we all know it... But with the dyes combination and the weapons i suggested, from my experience i win 2/3 times an sk... And trust me paladin can be excellent in 1vs.1 pvp if u balance his lack of doing dmg with critical hits and a fighter armor... But as always, not all sk are the same... P.e. with an sk with mj, +4con, dle health+som magic power things are 60%-40% for the sk between him and paladin... But we all know there is no rule in pvp. We just talk about chances...

P.S.: The DA must be really a noob if u defeated him... (and u really good :D)
hmm.....not the DA is the problem...i think he knows how to play an SK very well and the DA doesn't have a chance....anyway...if u kill the DA's panther...u won because the DA is nothing without his panther! and the panther is easy to kill with a weapon with magic power trust me....so...u just need how to play with the other classes,find their weaknesses!


Excuse me, but DA can summon second panther during a pvp... And don't forget sk weakness is his low hp. Shackle-harmstring and run far away so u can summon your second panther... And sorry for saying that, but if u spam aggression while the panther is out, u can save it from lots of dmg... Excuse me but if a DA 74 lvl can't beat an sk 62 lvl that means 2 things: The sk really knows how to play and the DA is noob.

P.S.: If DA is nothing without his panther, then paladin can never win in 1vs.1 (he has less attacking skills, he has no harmstring, he can't play with range attacks because he doesn't have any :P). DA has skills that when used properly allow him to play without his panther for a certain period of time.

Come on, the cast time for that panther is rather long, even shackle can't hold the sk long enough. You summon it in what? 30 seconds at least, gives the sk plenty of time to interrupt you and to regen his hp on you.


I said: shackle-harmstring and run far away... i've done it guys, it's not just something that poped in my head... I don't say that always works, but it's better to go for 2nd panther than just sit there and take sk's dmg. DA can be really effective with hit 'n' run playstyle (harmstring, then drain/shackle, bow, etc)
Author:  Icarus [ Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:36 pm ]
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And the hamstring will land surely on another tank right? It's not enough to summon the panther.
Author:  jak_cs84 [ Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:23 pm ]
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Icarus wrote:
And the hamstring will land surely on another tank right? It's not enough to summon the panther.


If i haven't done it, i wouldn't suggest it. If u use, stun-shackle-harmstring and run far away is more than enough. It's not 100% sure (ofc :P) but it happens a lot.
Author:  eleinos [ Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:17 am ]
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the guy that made this posts asks for guidance with his pally and most replies are da vs sk pvp.i believe there are already threads about this...
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