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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:11 pm 
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Most ppl that know something about dagger classes say that THs should use MJ light/Drac set, SS/AS crt dmg and dyes like:
+5dex -5str
+4con -4str
(for pvp)
Well, this dyes would only be good for 1on1 or mass pvp with a recharger in ur party coz a TH will waste many MP on blows...so...with no STR what are u going to do when you have no MP? hit ppl with a dagger with -9STR?
Im not going to say what dyes i use coz thats my secret :p but i just see so many sh1t about dagger classes and blablabla...
If u have mj light set and resist shock buff u wont need so much CON to resist stuns so it wont be a problem...

Just think about it and tell me if -9STR would be nice for a TH or anyother dagger class on pvp.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:14 am 
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When your mp is finishing run and pot .. Even if u dun deduct your str i cant kill ppl when compare to a glad.. My 2 cents worth


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:24 am 
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I personally dislike goin' for -9str as it will fck up Ur bow abilities...
I would rather use +5 DEX, -1 STR, -4 CON setup...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:56 pm 
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For a th you can minus some con off... But on an aw for example you have no con to drop off. Mj light isn't a smart move on the th. Hell, he's got stun resist... Mj light is good for daggers, even if others say it's bullcrap. Why is it good? on an aw for example you do -9 str, so you bow is fucked up in case you need it. But you have +8% patk with bow from the mj right? :)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:34 pm 
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Icarus wrote:
Mj light isn't a smart move on the th. Hell, he's got stun resist... Mj light is good for daggers, even if others say it's bullcrap. Why is it good? on an aw for example you do -9 str, so you bow is fucked up in case you need it. But you have +8% patk with bow from the mj right?

-9str on an aw is -16% patck so ur bow abilities will be fucked up anyway even with maj light...
why do you say that maj light isnt good for ths???its the fckn best armor for ths,aws and pws...i just see many ppl going -9str what is rly stupid but not so much on a aw :p


Takedo wrote:
I personally dislike goin' for -9str as it will fck up Ur bow abilities...
I would rather use +5 DEX, -1 STR, -4 CON setup...

if u have maj light on a th u can drop ur str off more than -1.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:54 pm 
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Majestic Light
+4dex-4str
Angel Slayer [haste]

Im trying haste for test wich fits me the best.
I would go for Drac set but stuns are everywhere and zaken its expensive and nerfed.

BTW anyone knows the actual blow formula for CT1?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:17 pm 
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nice combination for TH:
+5 dex;+4con:-9str

DC light set:


Atk. Spd. +4%

P. Atk. +4%

Paralysis Resistance +50%

STR +1
CON -1


SS critical damage or naga storm critical damage


no more anchors if u have good jewelery too


for those who play on low rate... this is a good combination in lvling and pvp, for those who play on high rate .... they can find alot of different tactics vs mages and fighters

im totally against nm light on daggers....some say that's the best vs mages but its not

if u get hold u have escape shackle .... imo nm light is more for tyrants


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:42 pm 
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WaZaWanGa wrote:
nice combination for TH:
+5 dex;+4con:-9str

DC light set:


Atk. Spd. +4%

P. Atk. +4%

Paralysis Resistance +50%

STR +1
CON -1


SS critical damage or naga storm critical damage


no more anchors if u have good jewelery too


for those who play on low rate... this is a good combination in lvling and pvp, for those who play on high rate .... they can find alot of different tactics vs mages and fighters

im totally against nm light on daggers....some say that's the best vs mages but its not

if u get hold u have escape shackle .... imo nm light is more for tyrants


when u get out of mp ull hit like a girl on -9str...and dc set=stunned! a th doesnt need +1str....mj is the best1=+pdef +mp +1dex +stun resist so ull be able to go -con and get more patck!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:18 am 
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eu wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
nice combination for TH:
+5 dex;+4con:-9str

DC light set:


Atk. Spd. +4%

P. Atk. +4%

Paralysis Resistance +50%

STR +1
CON -1


SS critical damage or naga storm critical damage


no more anchors if u have good jewelery too


for those who play on low rate... this is a good combination in lvling and pvp, for those who play on high rate .... they can find alot of different tactics vs mages and fighters

im totally against nm light on daggers....some say that's the best vs mages but its not

if u get hold u have escape shackle .... imo nm light is more for tyrants


when u get out of mp ull hit like a girl on -9str...and dc set=stunned! a th doesnt need +1str....mj is the best1=+pdef +mp +1dex +stun resist so ull be able to go -con and get more patck!


i get out of mp only in sieges and raids.....and ofc when im lvling

if you play with all active skills on and spam useless blows......


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:09 am 
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One question is the haste SA makes faster reuse delay of the skils and one more is critical dmg SA gives more dmg to the dager blows?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:16 am 
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Yes, both true
For the Haste SA I know for sure that it increases atk speed and atk speed decreases skill reuse delay but for the crit dmg i dont know the full answer


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IvoR wrote:
One question is the haste SA makes faster reuse delay of the skils and one more is critical dmg SA gives more dmg to the dager blows?


SA critical damage does increase any type of critical


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:58 am 
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I have a th that he is with a dc light set.It is very good for xp and pvp vs mages.The only problem is vs classes with heavy armor and classes with stun.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:17 pm 
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what the hell are you talking about?
dagger runs out of mp and attacks with normal hits?
there are 2 cases of pvp : 1v1 and mass pvp
1v1 : you have enough mp to spam all your blows
mass pvp : you have rechargers so -9STR is still recommended

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WaZaWanGa wrote:
IvoR wrote:
One question is the haste SA makes faster reuse delay of the skils and one more is critical dmg SA gives more dmg to the dager blows?


SA critical damage does increase any type of critical
So... u want to say that SA crt. dmg increase normal critical dmg and critical dmg of the blows?


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