player exp=best class... it depends what class u like and what class u can play.. sry for asking but on previous pages smb wrote that HE has fastest atk spd(if the sr doesnt use his rapid) but how the fak i ask can he have higher attack speed while having lowest dex? o_O sry if i didnt understood but i think this is noobish as hell
and i still think most functional(for me this means best) is the AW
and of archers pr(im not de lover...)->u have bunch of debuffs,some selfbuffs,high str,high dex(just +1 has the elf),but low con,and ur men is low too but both are greata for farming with that high dmg output and v nice pvpers..all say SNIPE RULZ ALL..i say snipe rullz noobz..when i see smb snipe i just move away and focus on other targets(if its mass or smth) or in 1v1 i just w8:) and then that HE eats my debuffs(if it costs the HPive lost while debuffing) and feels my crits..and i have might and shield as selfbuffs so im a bit better then the HE is
same with aw i can farm easly even with that low hp cuz i have curses and high str and dex..my skills are fkin hard crittin and in pvp i pwn asses cuz fullbuffed(open field or smth like that) the hp difference is not so big but the damage u deal is much higher..maybe im noob,maybe this all is wrong..but it worx for me fine and i use those aw/pr against all and allawayes im welcome to pts and etc

The guy tha said that HE has more atack sped was right, strange as it seems he is not noobish. U know where to go and see the skills that a HE has search the pasives for boost atack speed this skill is the reason why TH has the best atack speed of all daggers.
About PR being smth special well he is not and all DE are made for grinding not pvp ( cept AW ) dead makes your atack speed much slower than other daggers sure u hit hard but by the time u shoot 1 arrow HE will stun/Sr will ( proly u`ll be 1/3 Hp if u meet a SR in dead eye )

paagrio i sayd not th i sayd he:):P its hard to understand u u mixed all in 1! aw/pr wo0w.. sry cant understand u;]
but i rly cant agree u about that-->dark elfs are grinders i dont agree

well they trully are grinders just check all the pasive abilities of the pr most of them are for kitting so ...
anyway the pr is great hex then kite him to death
just gotta watch out for :
stun
backstab xD

I like to play PR because of his critical power....but the HE is the best archer in my opinion.And in 1vs1 it`s all about luck you can miss or crit.And we all know AW is the best dagger

Maybe you meant sr in rapid fire.
Only pr is meant for solo grinding from the dark elves. The sk is a versatile tank in pvp.

Yes, you are right in your calculations, however, honestly who would go -9 CON! on any character for pvp?!


HE (No Dye)
STR 40 DEX 30 CON 43
HP 4673 CP 3271

SR (No Dye)
STR 36 DEX 35 CON 36
HP 4219 CP 2109

PR (No Dye)
STR 41 DEX 34 CON 32
HP 3976 CP 1988
-> HE: +697 HP, +1283 CP, total +1980 HP,CP

If you want to up CON for more HP/CP & better stun resistance you have 2 options:
1) Keep STR for Skill crits and high damage
2) or keep DEX for faster movement speed, faster attack, more critical chance, more evasion

PR (-5 STR +5 CON -> Same STR as SR)
STR 36 DEX 34 CON 37
HP 4604 CP 2302
->HE: +69 HP, +969 CP, total 1038 HP,CP

Now there was also the argument of HE being the most balanced archer (this also directed at Icarus) Icarus stated in another topic that HE has lame dex. Well, guess what you can make a HE a SR (in terms of stats not skills of course)

SR (No dyes)
STR 36 DEX 35 CON 36
HP 4219 CP 2109

HE (-5 CON + 5 Dex)
HP 4022 CP 2815
STR 40 DEX 35 CON 38
same dex as LE, but still 2 more con. -200 HP but still 700 cp more than SR -> in total still 500 CP more ans doesnt "hit like a pussy"

I hate to say this but HE is the most balanced class. I dont like human in general males humans look so arrogant and to quote somebody "when they use a skill they look like they just finished having an orgasm" but we all have to thank NCsoft for forcing this upon us. I personally like DE -> females, the males look gay.... I am also playing with the idea of whether i should sub a HE or PR...

For me personally the skills of each class make or break a class

HE has:
- relax+vital force (its ok skill)
- Quiver of holding (Quite important - More cp's in sieges, increased wheight usefull)
- Dash
- Crit chance (more than PR)
- boost atk speed (much more than PR)
- Snipe (Now this skill gives me to thinkg... in def sieges VERY USEFULL.. but other situations.. the static condition makes it very situation and not able to use it much, but hey.. archers are supposed to be used in sieges...)
- blessing of sagittarius (this skill makes is much better at pvp)
- counter dash (ok to have..)

PR:
- Shadow sense (at night increased ACC in hunting is usefull)
- power break (underused skill in pvp... can be quite helpfull)
- hex (the exp, party and pvp bomb!)
- freezing strike (at 3rd class hamstring shot is much faster and better... and HE gets that skill too)
- attack and defense aura (just sexy)
- fatal counter (for this to be used you would be like a necor/sh on cdl... i cant imagine sb hunting with this skill, and for pvp its much like sh or necro a skill of LAST RESORT. Yes, it has a chance to kill and win but its certainly not the win button)
- dead eye (in comparison the the HE in siege this skill certainly is usefull in off and def!)
- evade shot (onre more skill extra which HE doesnt have)
- drain health...
- counter chance (quite a nice skill for pvp...)

I have a natural tendency to PR for its class, hex, deadeye, fatal counter, evade shot.. However, HE might be the truth which is hard to swallow...

my opinion:
havkeye have some passives from 1st class: crit power, crit rate and boos attack speed. anyway SR have biggest dex with dye +5 dex -5 con it's still not glass canon but what we have? 40 of dex. when we're on B grade or in early A when MJ is too much for us we can use doom light. [u will ask: dagger's set?oO]. Everyone know that SR have no p. attack. but.. with doom he have 43 dex. u saw crits on pp buff + fe. BD or some 3rd buffers boosts? it;s CRIT RAIN, with rapid fire it's the same effect like in Lord Of The Rings [Legolas]. HE is damn good too becouse of he's passives from 1st profesion but for me.. he looks shitly. why? for example: look at "MJ light on him" what's the matter? yea it's doom heavy painted on white. about PR.. i don't like him. skills/spells mix is bad. it's range mix too.. =fixation in pvp. i'm playing SR and now i have 1+ crit on 3 hits sometimes 2/3 and rare butt appear 3;4/3;4 ). and SR DO NOT hit like a girl.. he's just using crits to do the job.

It all depends hwo u like to play l2. Iplay as SR and i like it ... SR doesnt hit lieka pussy and can take hits in np.. u have bset kiting abilities best att speed(rapid fire is VERY USEFUL INSIDE CASTLES,or in smalll areas like a FoG room where u cant kite very well becuz of the packed mobs) plus u look deadly cool in maj light and hit crits like a mad man.. for example with crit rate buff level 3 and hunter song u have around 358 crit rate if im not mistaking add a focus on a draconic bow and u wont need to go for dyes at dex or for str dyes to increase ur p att which imo is quite good and ur crits arent bad are quite good .. ofc we dont hit lie a PR but still if SR hits more crits he always win so imo SR one of the best solo classes to play its a lot of fun plsu very usefull at pvp and mass pvp.. why mass pvp cuz u maybe not have the PR dmg but u have ur kiting speed and ur att speed in short range

In the never versions you can remove snipe with: alt + click on it .... so you dont even have to wait for the effect to pass just alt + click on it

look at the post date d00d...

its still a cool topic, about flaming who's the best archer.

HE,SR,GS..

wat bout em?

they are gays