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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:35 am 
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yeah rly...oh yea and i wanna ask u smth guys.If u dont have crt power (passive)lets say u will make 1000 dmg,and if u have those crt power skill u will hit for 1050 dmg?Cuz mariosxx told me that....


ah no
the crit power increases the percentage of crit
i mean a normal crit ( without the pasive ) represents about 2x of the normal damage
while a crit with the pasive means 2,2x or even 2,5 x normal damage

What no? Yes.

Critical power gives +50 dmg according to l2 calc. And i trust calc on skill info.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:15 am 
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with dw lvl 1 ( from ch buffs ) i gave crits like 1,4k
without i gave 1k
i dont think that dw lvl 1 = crit power passive of the DE fighters


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:07 am 
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Marios, admit it... That calc may be wrong, it's a pretty much abandoned project.

Here: critical on a pr...
With critical power lvl 2 passive: 1224-1353
Without it: 1217-1345

It's a lol difference. Because crt power lvl 2 only adds 60 patk per crit.



But it doesn't work that way on dagger skills. Dagger skills are patk independant, which means that there's no BASE to boost them, beside the skill power. On a bow, the difference is very low. On a dagger skill it's higher.
That's why vicious stance doesn't add a lot on a bow, but it sure adds more in a dagger skill. The patk of the bow is high, meaning that +600 patk per crit isn't exactly much. Let's say that you have 1200 patk with a bow on. You crit, and it should be 2400 patk. But if you add vicious stance, it's 3000 patk in total on a crit. That's just 1/4 more. What happens with a dagger crit? You have 600 patk with a dagger, let's say. You crit, it's 1200 patk on a crit. Add vicious stance up, you're in 1800. So you have more, you have 1/3 more patk.
I hope you got the picture. This is mainly why critical power on archers sucks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:15 pm 
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I don't know what are you mumbling about.
And i still don't know what are you trying to prove...

What does all that have to do with crit power?
Since its value hasn't admiringly been changed over the chronicles...
i trust l2 calc on that. And you can't assume VS works the same way...

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Why not? Vs does work the same way. Make a difference between pw and aw with similar equipment. You'll see what i'm talking about...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:39 pm 
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Why not? Vs does work the same way. Make a difference between pw and aw with similar equipment. You'll see what i'm talking about...
How do u know that VS works the same way? :P
What you say makes sense but how are you sure?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:19 pm 
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hes not hes retarded whit hsi aw and thinks he pwns all but i tellu he dont he suchs whit aw and same aquip pw vs aw will always whit whit is smart and icarus wold lose he uses skills whit mouse and his target ability suchs and he runs from dager when dager is b stabing him i think icarus is 12 years old kid , fat kid siting near pc all day mosturbating , eating there. he had bad thinks in the early moments like wooden hosrse, and a truck from wood whit no tiers he was fucked by his father trought a desk hes imba ultra stfuing noob

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hes not hes retarded whit hsi aw and thinks he pwns all but i tellu he dont he suchs whit aw and same aquip pw vs aw will always whit whit is smart and icarus wold lose he uses skills whit mouse and his target ability suchs and he runs from dager when dager is b stabing him i think icarus is 12 years old kid , fat kid siting near pc all day mosturbating , eating there. he had bad thinks in the early moments like wooden hosrse, and a truck from wood whit no tiers he was fucked by his father trought a desk hes imba ultra stfuing noob


for fuck sake man just leave this forum anyway u dont give any good ideas
and u never can create something of yours-->u r parasite,an insect-u are trying to find some weak point and u try to makeurself god here...but in reality u r just tryin to hide ur faggosity..thats all
wooden horse? masturbating?i see here ur life..poor kid..bleh nvm we all have our place under the big sun in this big planet..but some like u should rly gtfo and go to the moon or mars(marsians may be nice)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:33 pm 
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Ah talking about my movie again? Do you want to know why i was running? On l2gold there's something called rebirth system. I have 3 rebirths on wind walk, which makes me the fastest thing on the server, only outran by a pw with 3 rebirths on wind walk (3 rebs means +15% speed). And the point is that few choose 3 rebs on wind walk.
Look at the moment i chose to run. After they have all made their blow once (thus making them wait for the reuse).

My targeting skills are fine baby, in the last pvp i lost my concentration. What, never happened to you? Oh praise you mighty God Guzeris.
Don't teach me pvp little pussy... You know 0 about daggers.

@marios: what tells me that it's the same is the skill description in the first place. It just sais increases patk during a crit. Secondly, i had the opportunity to test it, and i have to say, that's why i'm so sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:51 pm 
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some1 on this forum once said

FU L2 CALC TRY IT FOR YOURSELF INSEATED OF PUSING BUTTONS AN A SITE
i suggest marios to follow his advice :)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:53 pm 
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yes a HE is better than a PR he will kill PR in 9 out ten pvps ... ur all noobz im correct.... i dotn care about ur arguments ur a all nonnz, lamershit, ......


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:57 pm 
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yes pr loses vs he and sr since rapid fire appeared
but in pve pr rullez as soloer :)))
give him pp buffs and he can do wonders
in pvp well not so great because of the low con and low attack speed
stop the HE worship


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:03 pm 
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another ass kisser, yo icarus my man, many friends u have, to bad they are stupid from head to tow


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:03 pm 
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hemoragie wrote:
yes a HE is better than a PR he will kill PR in 9 out ten pvps ... ur all noobz im correct.... i dotn care about ur arguments ur a all nonnz, lamershit, ......


Man and what u think about urself? Let me guess :
"OO IM THE CRAZYEST MADAFAKAAA IM SMARTER THAN UU !! U ALL SUUUCK IM PWNING MUTAFUKAAA"
Am i right?If u think u are smart dont be very sure at that cuz u act just like me when i was 11 years old kid...man u really make me puke!You r jus a retardet kid that thinks he got biggest knowledge than all! But u are WRONG!! u are 1 of stupidest members here just as marios.You 2 dont have even 0.0000000000000001% of the knowledge of icarus or gods3nd or every 1.So pls gtfo from this forum or better from this sait..You suck!Better listen the ppl who are smarter than u...


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i dont care ur all noobz im correct, lamershitz


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