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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:41 pm 
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from what i have seen both in oly and outdoor ( mass siege 1 vs 1 ) pvp
if sph lands wind wortex its NOT 100 % win the sps can still crit and he can crit hard
also vamp is akinda good yeah recovers 300 hp lets say but with those 300 hp you can cast another nue that will prolly be the last hit
ANY NUKE THAT RESTORES YOUR HP FOR MORE THEN 200 IS WORTH IT IMO!!!
also about MA i wont go for it unless i have powa/dance/malaria
honestly i wil get raped by sps/sorcs
IMO : when you fight a sps ( and you attack first and he doesnt sees you ) use wind vortex first then 2 nukes and prolly slug if hes not dead
of you both see each other start with hurri if ytou start with wind vortex you may get interrupted and if thats so your winning chances are slim

and another thing...
about the server discution
true l2 = global l2 other servers no matter how 1337 they are they are still bugged in a way or another so from that point of view your all nobos that play on lolprivate

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:52 pm 
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Sekkurel wrote:
300 hp lets say but with those 300 hp you can cast another nue that will prolly be the last hit
ANY NUKE THAT RESTORES YOUR HP FOR MORE THEN 200 IS WORTH IT IMO!!!
Yes but with surender and landed vortex u'll do better damage on wind attacks than with dark vortex and spikes/drains. And don't forget people spam CP and elixirs and damage done at enemy's CP won't bring u HP back.

PS: CP and elixirs not in Oly ofc :P

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:03 pm 
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mariosxx wrote:
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Read it again idiot ^^
Simple Spiritshot gives +100% to your damage. If not i stop playing on abyss.
Blessed Spiritshot gives u +15% casting speed +100% M.attack.

If not i will play L2J servers, because even those are better than abyss, or i just wait for L2Paradise to open xD

Ok I'll prove u wrong using screenshots and in exchange u'll show me
pics of ur Abyss char's being deleted every day that passes, ok?


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Simple spiritshots give same c speed as blessed ones (+100%)
and they give +40% damage/effect compared to Blessed = +100%

Waiting for deletion pics shalana :roll:

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So lets shut up and listen to smart, nice intelligent people
U'r referring to me, right?

And i seen Waza play on some factor clans on low rates.
While you're nobody at lolabyss... eh?
I trust he knows way better than u tbh :P


dude u can't be that blind to believe that he can rly kill ANY sph in oly with sps or can you??


yes i can kill any sph in olympiad with my sps , well i do have some imba items but l2 is not street fighter , you have to work for your gear also

@about that ss/bss thing i knew that simple spirit shot gives +75% or 50% and blessed ss gives +25% cast and 100% dmg , i think i've read it on l2p but your screenie shows clearly that you are right


@marios yes u are right i rely more on my cancel/cast speed and aura flash/flare when fighting nukers


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his screen dont shows nothingavout the cst

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atlant448 wrote:
his screen dont shows nothingavout the cst


marios only wanted to prove dumbass shalana wrong and he did with that screen , u cant see the +cst from bss but you can only feel it on your char :D


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
atlant448 wrote:
his screen dont shows nothingavout the cst


marios only wanted to prove dumbass shalana wrong and he did with that screen , u cant see the +cst from bss but you can only feel it on your char :D
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mariosxx wrote:
Sekkurel wrote:
300 hp lets say but with those 300 hp you can cast another nue that will prolly be the last hit
ANY NUKE THAT RESTORES YOUR HP FOR MORE THEN 200 IS WORTH IT IMO!!!
Yes but with surender and landed vortex u'll do better damage on wind attacks than with dark vortex and spikes/drains. And don't forget people spam CP and elixirs and damage done at enemy's CP won't bring u HP back.

PS: CP and elixirs not in Oly ofc :P

ok then lets say you both dont have cp pots/elixirs
and you both are 1 nuke awaiy from death i for 1 ( if i play sph ) will do drain to get back enough hp to witstand the nuke and dont die and also prolly killing the sps

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You enchant Silence if it doesn't work you throw him vortex and he is done for now ...

You use like this tactic ...

Surrender To Wind
Wind Vortex
Wind Vortex Slug
Dark Vortex
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Wind Vortex


And he is done for today ...


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tratnik wrote:
You enchant Silence if it doesn't work you throw him vortex and he is done for now ...

You use like this tactic ...

Surrender To Wind
Wind Vortex
Wind Vortex Slug
Dark Vortex
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Wind Vortex


And he is done for today ...
the most retarded tactic i ever seen for a sph


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WaZaWanGa wrote:
tratnik wrote:
You enchant Silence if it doesn't work you throw him vortex and he is done for now ...

You use like this tactic ...

Surrender To Wind
Wind Vortex
Wind Vortex Slug
Dark Vortex
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Wind Vortex


And he is done for today ...
the most retarded tactic i ever seen for a sph

ahh yea
you probably start with vamp, am i wrong? xD

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SpidAp wrote:
WaZaWanGa wrote:
tratnik wrote:
You enchant Silence if it doesn't work you throw him vortex and he is done for now ...

You use like this tactic ...

Surrender To Wind
Wind Vortex
Wind Vortex Slug
Dark Vortex
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Wind Vortex


And he is done for today ...
the most retarded tactic i ever seen for a sph

ahh yea
you probably start with vamp, am i wrong? xD


LoL in that time he drains some of your hp maybe?


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tratnik wrote:
You enchant Silence if it doesn't work you throw him vortex and he is done for now ...

You use like this tactic ...

Surrender To Wind
Wind Vortex
Wind Vortex Slug
Dark Vortex
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Hurricane
Hurricane
Vampiric Claw
Wind Vortex


And he is done for today ...


omg......... slug will remove the vortex (at least on my server)
Vortex is powerfull, but its cspeed is slow, its retarded to use it more then once against another nuker. And, if you decide to use that dark vortex, you dont go for hurricanes any more but for deathspikes and drains.


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mariosxx wrote:
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Read it again idiot ^^
Simple Spiritshot gives +100% to your damage. If not i stop playing on abyss.
Blessed Spiritshot gives u +15% casting speed +100% M.attack.

If not i will play L2J servers, because even those are better than abyss, or i just wait for L2Paradise to open xD

Ok I'll prove u wrong using screenshots and in exchange u'll show me
pics of ur Abyss char's being deleted every day that passes, ok?


Image
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Simple spiritshots give same c speed as blessed ones (+100%)
and they give +40% damage/effect compared to Blessed = +100%

Waiting for deletion pics shalana :roll:


Soooo...
The 1600 dmage was simple spiritshot and the 2000 damage was the damage with blessed?

WTF i cant believe it!
If i use simple Spiritshot i feel my cast slower. Hell dont know.
I wont delete my chars, i give them to my bro. Sorry xD

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mariosxx wrote:
@Icarus: In Oly fight m att difference won't be so big.
Not to mention SPS doesn't really rely on Ice vortex since it gives
-10% and not the -30% wind one does. SPS will rely on his c speed and cancel.

What!? Sps relies on his vortex because it has a crusher -> lots of damage. Also, I wouldn't deny -10% casting speed to be honest.

The mdef difference is still high because the oly buffer has empower. The Sps will have around 1.4k matk, while the sh will have 2.3k. And that's dyeless in a non-matk set. If we count arcane power and dyes, you'll get much more.
Ofc, in the meantime the sps gets casting speed, so...

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